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Targeting IgA Nephropathy (Sponsored Content)

07 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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Since you're a subscriber to this Bloomberg podcast, we thought you'd be interested in a six-episode sponsored podcast called Targeting the Toughest Diseases, produced by Vertex Pharmaceuticals and Bloomberg Media Studios. It explores the innovative tools, methods, and unique philosophy Vertex Pharmaceuticals is using to search for treatments for some of humanity's most challenging diseases.

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Here's a recent episode.

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30.457 - 35.665 Jordan Gaspore

Two-year-olds are a handful. They're full of energy and full of laughter.

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Chapter 2: How did Rachel's pregnancy lead to her kidney disease diagnosis?

36.706 - 40.552 Jordan Gaspore

A lot of work, for sure, but also a source of joy.

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40.572 - 69.96 Rachel Benton

I definitely feel my calling in life was to be a mother, and I just feel so blessed to be able to have that opportunity to have a child. So it's been great. That's Rachel Benton, also known as Stetson's mom. Stetson is his name. Stetson Corey Benton. I've always liked unique names. I never knew of anyone named Stetson before.

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70.021 - 93.259 Jordan Gaspore

The thing about Stetson is, and he doesn't even know this yet, but he may have already saved his mom's life. A routine medical test that Rachel only took because she was pregnant showed protein in her urine. That led to further tests, a biopsy, and eventually a phone call delivering a diagnosis.

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95.181 - 105.334 Rachel Benton

It was a pretty quick conversation. We know it is IgA nephropathy. It's a rare kidney disease. There is not a cure. We don't have a cause.

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106.512 - 130.917 Jordan Gaspore

The call was short, but for Rachel, it changed everything. Hi, I'm Jordan Gaspore, a member of the University of Southern California's Center for Health Journalism. This is Targeting the Toughest Diseases, a podcast produced by Bloomberg Media Studios and Vertex Pharmaceuticals.

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In this series, we look at some of humanity's most challenging diseases, and how Vertex, a Boston-based biotech company, is using innovative tools, methods, and a unique philosophy to search for treatments and cures. Today, we're looking at immunoglobulin A nephropathy, more commonly known as IgA nephropathy.

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It's a progressive chronic kidney disease that, for too long, was underreported and underresearched. We'll talk to experts inside and outside of Vertex about the latest work being done in this field. But first, back to Rachel's story. At the age of 30, Rachel Benton was living a great life. She was a licensed mortgage broker running her own agency.

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She owned her own house, and that fall, she decided to throw a big Halloween party.

192.5 - 209 Rachel Benton

And he came with one of our mutual friends, and we sort of rekindled from there. He was Tom. a guy she had dated on and off during her 20s. And then it was the end of November of 2020 that he asked me to marry him.

Chapter 3: What is IgA nephropathy and why is it significant?

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But around the nine-month mark, she reached out to her doctor. She retested her urine, which confirmed she still had protein in her urine. So they decided to do a kidney biopsy. A biopsy is where a doctor uses a long needle to extract tiny pieces of tissue so they can do further tests. Rachel got the results over the phone.

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289.516 - 311.766 Rachel Benton

And he's like, you know, we did confirm some things. You have a rare kidney disease called IgA nephropathy or IGAN. So my first question was, you know, what do I do now? How do I stop this? Is there a cure? You know, just thinking of anything like what's the next steps? What about medication? Blah, blah, blah. And he's like, well...

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313.349 - 319.938 Jordan Gaspore

The answer to almost all of her questions was, we're not sure. Or, it depends.

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322.101 - 348.232 Rachel Benton

I got off the phone and just cried, I think, for probably two days straight. I just was overwhelmed with obviously the diagnosis and not knowing anything. where this would take me in life, what the next, you know, 24 hours would look like a year, 10 years. You know, how is this going to affect me in my day to day life and and my son and my husband?

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348.292 - 377.764 Jordan Gaspore

She's adjusted her diet and takes medication to address her blood pressure and cholesterol. But the progress of the disease is variable. At one point, Rachel's kidney function dropped 30 points over two months. The doctor told her that at that rate, she'd be needing dialysis within a year. She's rebounded, but she doesn't know if that recovery will hold.

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She also deals with fatigue, not just new mom tiredness, but debilitating fatigue, where she'll sleep for 12 hours and still need a midday nap. In fact, Rachel says that for a couple of years before her diagnosis, she was already dealing with extreme tiredness, but never really considered it a medical condition or something that needed attention.

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In hindsight, she wishes she had gotten it checked out, Looking forward, her long-term health and her ability to be the kind of mom she wants to be is uncertain.

414.852 - 439.24 Rachel Benton

I have my days where I just feel very, very guilty being a mother to him with a rare disease and not knowing in a year or 10 years, however long, how I'm going to be and how active I get to be in his life. Every day, I just try to make the best of it though. And, you know, whatever he wants to do, I put on a smile and try to push through.

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Immunoglobulin A nephropathy, or IGAN, is not a high-profile disease. It's a chronic kidney disease that historically has not been well understood. But that's changing.

Chapter 4: What challenges does Rachel face living with IgA nephropathy?

607.378 - 622.772 Dr. Jonathan Barrett

But when it's in the bloodstream, it's a bit out of place and it tends to stick to itself, to stick to other proteins. There are antibodies in the circulation it sticks to. And that forms these large, what we call immune complexes, which are essentially big aggregates of protein.

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624.743 - 638.6 Dr. Jonathan Barrett

If you've got big globs of protein, it's completely reasonable to think that those globs of protein are going to start clogging up the filter, which is exactly what happens. And when they clog up the filter, there's inflammation, there's scarring, and that's what eventually causes kidney failure.

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For people diagnosed with IgA nephropathy, the biological effects are only part of the problem.

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645.652 - 663.477 Dr. Jonathan Barrett

The big challenge is actually the impact on mental wellness. Because if you're a young person and I tell you you've got this disease, It's incurable. There's a risk it could cause kidney failure in the future, but I can't tell you when. You might need to go on dialysis or have a kidney transplant, but I can't tell you when.

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663.998 - 681.615 Dr. Jonathan Barrett

That sense of uncertainty can be absolutely devastating for young people. You imagine developing your career, wanting to pay that big amount of money for a house, getting married, thinking about children, and you have this threat hanging over you of a disease that the doctors can't really predict

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Addressing that fear and uncertainty requires showing patients there is a way forward. And that's what the team at Vertex is doing. IgA nephropathy represents exactly the kind of medical problem Vertex is targeting.

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There's a long history of research to build on, there's new technology available, or Vertex thinks they can develop it, there's a large unmet need, and Vertex thinks it may be possible to tackle the underlying disease.

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Simply put, Vertex's goal is to help people suffering from serious diseases. And we do that by investing in scientific innovation to create what we believe could be truly transformative medicines for people with these diseases.

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That's Mark Bunnage. He's the head of research at Vertex Pharmaceuticals and leads research on the company's pipeline of serious diseases.

Chapter 5: How does IgA nephropathy affect mental health?

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This is a complex scenario. What's the innovative thinking that Vertex is considering here?

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927.818 - 945.367 Dr. Manish Maski

We know that the levels of BATH and APRIL are actually elevated in people with IgA nephropathy and that these levels correlate with measures of kidney function and damage. So through that, we believe both of these drivers are involved in uncontrolled B cells, not BATH alone and not APRIL alone.

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945.827 - 953.64 Dr. Manish Maski

There's a need to cast the widest net to catch the main actors involved in the pathogenesis of IgA nephropathy.

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953.722 - 973.987 Dr. Manish Maski

What we hope to see with this approach is the potential to restore immune balance for our patients and give them the best chance at remission in the proteinuria, which is the protein spilling in the urine, hematuria, which is the spilling of blood in the urine, with associated stabilization of kidney function.

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For Rachel Benton, living with uncertainty has become a constant burden.

983.438 - 1012.875 Rachel Benton

It really scares me for my son. I feel like I let him down, I guess. It's not fair for him to have a mom that is going to be sick for the rest of her life. It might not be bad today, but we don't know about tomorrow. I feel guilt in that aspect of him just not having a healthy mom. Same for my husband. For him to have a wife that just isn't healthy and... It breaks my heart for them, really.

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But I try to stay positive and take care of myself as much as I can. But it definitely does play a huge role on your mental health, for sure, day to day. Some days I can be like, you know what? I am a warrior. I got this. Everything's great. And other days it's like, I am not okay. And I feel like I could just crawl under a rock and stay there.

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Rachel, like a lot of people living with IgA nephropathy, has become an advocate, encouraging others to get checked.

1045.961 - 1059.117 Rachel Benton

All of my friends, because of this, I'm like, please get your yearlies done, but also ask for that urine test. You know, if you see any sign of protein in your urine, just double check it. Why not? Exactly.

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