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Blue Jays Talk

Jays Edge Yankees in Trey-mendous Pitcher's Duel

21 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

6.376 - 7.398 Sho Alli

Well, I'll tell you guys this.

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Chapter 2: What happened during the rain delay before the game?

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We had to wait out two hours and 11 minutes of rain delay coverage before first pitch this game even got underway. But even after that long a wait, it's a pretty damn good ballgame, right? The pitching duel was as advertised, though, of course, Treya Savage out dueling Cam Schlittler tonight. If you're a fan of baseball, we certainly got a treat. If you're a Blue Jays fan, and I

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30.558 - 52.798 Sho Alli

Imagine you are, if you're listening to this. Doubly so for you, because a heart-pounding 2-1 Blue Jays win. Jays improved to 22-27 on the year, and they have a chance to split the series tomorrow in New York. You're listening, of course, to JSOC. Joe Alley here with you. We're live on the Sportsnet Radio Network. We're also streaming on Sportsnet.ca and on the Sportsnet app.

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52.818 - 70.062 Sho Alli

You can shoot me a text tonight, 590-590, name and location. The people's text line is always open. Standard messaging and data rates. may apply. Usually we take your calls, but the rain delay has shorted me a producer tonight. So, uh, and you know, on top of that, Nick Blackmore is probably still celebrating Arsenal's primary league title a day later.

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Chapter 3: How did Trey Savage perform in the pitcher's duel?

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So it's just Tom Young and I tonight. So the text line will be the primary method of communication. Five 95 90 name and location. I will say Because of the lengthy rain delay, when it was absolutely pouring in New York, I genuinely thought there was going to be a doubleheader tomorrow. Now, selfishly, I was fine with that because it meant I could go home early.

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On the other side, from a baseball perspective, that would have not been particularly great for the Blue Jays because it meant Trey Savage, who has not gone that deep into games that much this year, and of course, six innings from him last time out for the first time in 2026, it meant... that you'd have your Savage going on the same day as a bullpen day.

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So despite the late hour, it's probably a good thing they didn't have to run both of those out there today, I'm guessing. But of course, before we get any deeper, before we get to the text line, again, 59590, the player of the game is what we need to get to and is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One giving credit to over 4 million Canadians and counting. I feel like it's probably pretty...

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135.554 - 159.03 Sho Alli

Easy to figure out where we're going for the player of the game today. Trey is savage, right? Six innings, two hits, no runs or walks, eight Ks, 95 pitches, 64 strikes. I mean, he looked terrific tonight. Fastball Velo was popping. It topped out at 96 and a half miles an hour. The command of that fastball is terrific. Something that has eluded him consistently, at least for tonight.

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a fair amount of his first few starts of the year. The splitter was being placed more consistently, not only at the bottom of the zone, on the edges of the zone. He was really painting as often as he liked with that thing. The splitter had a little bit more of that wipeout shape. That we're used to seeing. We're seeing more sliders. Over the last few starts. I guess over the whole season.

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We're seeing the slider become more of a weapon. For him as he continues to figure it out. Release point wise. It's just generally been pretty effective. At times this year. And it was tonight. This other part of why. I mean you know. In a game where they went 2-1. He is hard to not pick right. But this part of it is going to be less scientific. But.

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We'd actually never seen Trey Savage pitch in New York before, right? As we famously know, he has pitched against the Yankees and Thomas Hall, thankfully putting this together for me, Trey Savage and two career starts against the Yankees regular season and post-season, obviously 38 batters phase two hits. And of course one should have been an error. No runs one walk.

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There were no walks tonight, 19 strikeouts. And four of those 19 have come against Aaron judge. I mean, That's just ridiculous. No matter how you slice it. But of course, when he had pitched against the Yankees in the playoffs, and that's obviously a much bigger moment in the ALDS that was here in Toronto.

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I do think simply because the magnitude of playing in New York, it does, whether we like it or not carry some cache for most ballplayers, but it just, the moment continues to just not look particularly big for you. Savage, which I don't, I don't necessarily think it's something you can always teach, but,

Chapter 4: What were the highlights of the Blue Jays' bullpen performance?

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So you're probably not even really seeing that pitch until it's too late, effectively, and the ball just looks like it teleports to the plate, effectively, but you know, the... For most of a pitch's journey from his hand, Four-seamers riding up, the cutter is riding in, the sinker is dropping. After 50% of the way, it all looks the same, right? So if you're a batter, you're essentially guessing.

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I actually do think, in that sense, given that the Jays put up eight hits and two runs and then he didn't end up walking two, I actually do think, all things considered, that is a pretty good result for the Blue Jays' offense against Cam Schlittler. I actually think it's maybe slightly less excusable for... top of the order to not give tons of production against.

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528.039 - 546.463 Sho Alli

And again, Jake bird has been good this year, but against, you know, Jake bird, for example, also, by the way, what was the guy who came, who was the guy who came in at the end there? Yovani Cruz. God, I think he's going to be a problem, right? I think, I think we're going to be discussing Yovani Cruz when we come to blue Jays, Yankees game for quite some time. But yeah, I don't know. I, again,

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It's it's a give and take, I think, with elite pitchers. And you do want to see them work these guys a teensy bit more. But Schiller was also real good tonight. Right. Like we said, the pitchers duel was was largely largely as advertised. Let's go back to the text line. Five ninety five ninety name and location. Quinn in Winnipeg. Gem by Trey. Stellar at bat by Andres. We are so back.

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You know, on the AB by Jimenez, right? They show this on the Sportsnet telecast, right? They show the pitch sequence from Schlittler to Jimenez right before because it was 11 pitches. So from the 10 pitches that right before the bases loaded walk, That's what it looked like. Four seam fastball at 97. Four seamer at 98. Four seamer at 97. Four seamer at 98. Four seamer at 98.

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Another four seamer at 98. A sinker at 98. A four seamer at 99. A cutter at 95. A four seamer at 98. That was the 10th pitch. And then he works the walk. I mean, he was fighting off... And, you know, Ben referred to it. Ben Shulman referred to it as like, quote unquote, action pitches, because after, you know, you got to three balls, you just throwing him stuff in the zone, essentially.

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And I got to say, great by Jimenez to fight off 97, 98 with movement. from the cutter, the sinker, and the fastball, tremendous stuff from Jimenez. And then to quickly pull the bat back on the, what was the 11 pitch, which was the walk, which great, great stuff as well. James and river bourgeois, great win by Jays pitching.

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Let's not to forget to give flowers to Jeff Hoffman who got the Jays out of a big jam in the seventh. I will say I did as I usually do. I tweeted out that, you know, the gif of Samuel Jackson from Jurassic Park. Hold on to your butts. When Jeff Hoffman came out of that bullpen, I mean, two on and one out. I'm guessing to James's text.

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I was not the only one holding my breath tonight, even if it was Ryan McMahon and Ahmed Rosario. But I mean, look, he got he induced sweet contact. He gets out unscathed for much of the year. It hasn't really been. the stuff that's been the problem with him.

Chapter 5: What challenges did the Blue Jays face against Cam Schlittler?

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I almost wonder if pitch like a starter, not necessarily reliever, but a starter might be where the Jays go just because of what's coming down the pipeline for the rotation. I mean, now we heard earlier today, Jose Brios, Tommy John. So, you know, that's really tough news. You hope he recovers fast. I, you know, I'm a fan of Barrios is I admit, but that's tough news to swallow.

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If you're the blue Jays or Brios himself, it's, So, you know, all of a sudden, and not really all of a sudden, you already lost Ponce to injury. All these other guys like Scherzer and Bieber and so on have been injured for good chunks of the year.

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1207.887 - 1226.178 Sho Alli

So it's not like this is new news, but I wonder if that might not be where you go, if only because the cost and the cost would be the same for starting pitchers, certainly, but the cost would be pretty prohibitive to acquire someone tomorrow to Matt's point, right? Let's see. This one's from Glennon Markham. Appreciate the text.

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Glenn Schlittler had a three ERA tonight, which is way worse than a season average. I think we did a solid job offensively. Ben had mentioned this during the game, but Schlittler, I forget the exact numbers, but essentially Schlittler against all teams in baseball tonight.

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not counting the Yankees so 28 teams is ludicrously low and his ERA against the Blue Jays has starts with a five essentially right so hey it's a relatively small sample size because Schlettler was called up last year same goes for the sample sizes with the Savage versus pretty much any team, but still it is a pretty encouraging to see how the, the blue Jays play tonight.

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This one's from, actually there's no name on this one, but it just says the blue Jays of 2025 showed up tonight. I at least from a pitching perspective, I suppose I would agree with this in the sense that they did find a way. Maybe that's the, maybe that's the perspective this texture is taking, right? Because again, Would I have liked to have seen Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

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come on with the bases loaded and one out and just blast a ball into the bleacher creatures? 100%, I would have, right? But again, bases loaded, one out. He lifts the ball on the deep fly out, and that's clearly what he was trying to do. Again, would I have liked to see him deposit that thing into the seats? Yes. Was that also probably in that situation the best thing he could have done

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instead of trying to play hero, given that he is still somewhat going through it, I would say, I would say also, yes, I don't, I don't think that's letting him off the hook. So you still need more from a Vladimir Guerrero jr, but still all things considered, I think you take it. And again, that actually did end up proving to be the game winning run when it was all, when it was all said and done.

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Other texts on the text line here as well. Jacob in Halifax. This was still too close of a game. Bases loaded in the seventh with no outs. I think got to get more there. I agree. Need to send Jojo Parker to some bum team with a magic back. That's pretty funny. I bet they're considering it, right? I mean, prospects are nice, but at some point, it's like that meme from The Simpsons, right?

Chapter 6: Was Andrés Giménez's 11-pitch at-bat the turning point of the game?

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Is it time to move him down to seven or eight? I don't think maybe that low, but I do wonder if this continues for him. We see a switch in the not-too-distant future. Again, it would take a lot, I think, for them to move Springer out of the leadoff spot. It is something we've discussed before. And again, he... It's unfortunate, right?

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Because he looks like a guy who's a year older and has a broken toe. But yeah, I think you and Ian, you expected some regression. But yeah, I think we're going to have to see Springer. I could see him batting fifth, maybe. I don't think he'd bat seven or eight, but maybe bat fifth.

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Obviously, the return of an Alejandro Kirk or Addison Barger, you hope in the not too distant future would certainly help there. All right, we got to bounce. A quick one for us tonight. Appreciate all the text. We'll get back to taking your calls tomorrow. with Blair and Parker.

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Blue Jays baseball, as always, is brought to you by your local family-owned Crown Rust Control Centers in Kanso and North Sydney, Nova Scotia. Protect your vehicle with Canada's number one rust protection. Find your local Crown Rust Control family at crown.com. For Ben Schulman, Chris LaRue, Tom Young, I'm Sho.

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1441.78 - 1454.688 Sho Alli

Barring more rain, and I have not looked at the radar, but I am hoping it will be clean skies in New York tomorrow. But barring the rain, it will be B&B to put a bow on this series. I'll be with Blair on Friday at the Rogers Center. Have a great night. We'll talk to you later.

1462.886 - 1466.353 Ben Shulman

He struck him out. Punches out Judge on a slider.

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