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Rally Falls Short in Extras, Jays Lose Series vs. Rays

13 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What were the key moments in the Blue Jays' loss to the Rays?

7 - 12.559 Jeff Blair

All right, Kevin Barker, do you feel like looking at some silver linings out of the gate?

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13.763 - 14.766 Kevin Barker

Yeah, that'd be nice.

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15.37 - 41.311 Jeff Blair

I mean, we might as well. The Jays have lost 7-6 to the Tampa Bay Rays tonight, but as Ben and Chris both said, you know, the Jays have put some runs together in back-to-back games against the team that is the best team in the American League, a team that, by the way, is now 10-1 in the AL East this year, including, I believe, I believe they swept the Yankees earlier this year as well.

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44.21 - 69.476 Jeff Blair

Yeah, you know, we were watching this game unfold here in the press box and seeing the Jays tie the game, and I started to wonder if... This is the type of game that the Jays have gone on to win. You know, we might have ended up looking back at just like that game in Texas last year where, you know, the Jays were coming off a bad series against Tampa. They just had nothing going on offensively.

69.556 - 81.591 Jeff Blair

Bowe hits that pinch hit home run, and they go on to win. And if you talk to folks around the team, a lot of people will tell you that was kind of a turning point. Still waiting for that turning point this year, though, with the 7-6 loss.

82.28 - 96.666 Kevin Barker

Yeah, well, I think he had some good things right. The Sanchez pinch hit RBI double was big. The RBI single from Springer. Pignango continues to take pitcher's pitches, get his pitch that he can drive a big part of the field, which is exactly what happened.

Chapter 2: How did the Blue Jays' offense perform against elite pitching?

96.767 - 100.313 Kevin Barker

Springer scoring from first with a broken toe. I mean, that's a big deal.

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100.333 - 102.938 Jeff Blair

Two infield hits with a broken toe. I mean, that's –

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102.918 - 122.996 Kevin Barker

You know, crazy stuff. I mean, yeah, it's crazy stuff. The Vladdy error run scored. I mean, that's a pretty tough error. You know, there's such a thing as a home cooking. You know, you would think some big backspin, you know, you'd help a dude out who'd been struggling. I'm with you. It's just, you know, in the 10th inning, you can give up a run against a good team. You can't give up two runs.

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123.116 - 142.994 Kevin Barker

You know, I think that's kind of the thing. And I just think that sort of 10th inning summed up what the Rays do well, right? You know, you move a runner with two strikes to third. You drive him in, you know, and then Walls takes second and then takes third on a pitch that probably should nobody be taking third on.

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143.515 - 160.11 Kevin Barker

Aranda, you know, with the sack fly with two strikes, just sort of an accumulation of kind of what the Rays have been doing all year, and that's kind of how they've been winning baseball games is you get good enough pitch and you play decent enough defense and you let your speed take over and,

160.09 - 167.569 Kevin Barker

You know, it was a valiant try from the Blue Jays, just not enough from basically, I think we can say it now, the best team in the American League.

167.99 - 188.631 Jeff Blair

Yeah, I have no question of that. Speaking of Taylor Walls, it is time now for the player of the game. The player of the game is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One giving Canadians credit for 30 years. We mentioned Taylor Walls. The guy's hitting 200 coming into the game. Gets on base four times. Scores a couple of runs. A stolen base.

188.871 - 209.819 Jeff Blair

You talked about advancing to third in the wild pitch. Scores what eventually holds up as the winning run. And what I like about him, this is a guy who was thrown out in the eighth inning trying to steal. Didn't cut into his aggressiveness at all in the extra inning. And Boy, you know, you look at Chandler Simpson last night. He was the player of the game. Taylor Walsh today.

209.839 - 220.27 Jeff Blair

I mean, yeah, the Rays are getting some hits. The Rays are doing Rays things. But the speed, to me, is what has really has swung these two games in their favor.

Chapter 3: What impact did Vladimir Guerrero Jr. have in the game?

292.07 - 315.852 Jeff Blair

1-888-666-0590. The text line is open. 590-590 is the text line. The Rays are now 28-15. Is that right? 28-13. The Jays are 18-24. The Rays are 28-13. That's crazy. They're 15 games over 500 already, and we're looking at May 12th.

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316.433 - 318.735 Kevin Barker

Great pitching and timely hitting, Jeff. That's how you do it.

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318.918 - 340.686 Jeff Blair

Well, I thought tonight, you know, I've seen a lot of no-hitters, and I've covered two perfect games. And so I kind of like to think that I have a little sense of when that's going to happen. I swear to God, tonight, third inning, I'm thinking Shane McClanahan. My only question is, is he going to be in the game long enough to have it as a no-hitter?

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340.726 - 345.853 Jeff Blair

Because I just didn't think the Jays had much of a chance against him. They get a walk in the third inning.

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345.833 - 370.018 Jeff Blair

Fifth inning, you know, again, the five-run seventh is great, but you look back at that fifth inning, Lenine Sosa reaches on an error, Ernie Clement singles, you got a little something going, and then Davis Schneider comes out and strikes out, and Brandon Valenzuela strikes out swinging, and that kind of puts a kibosh, and that would have been nice to squeeze a run across there in that particular inning.

370.37 - 387.322 Kevin Barker

Well, every once in a while you run into a guy just better than you are. And I think that's kind of what's been happening the last couple of days that the Jays lineup have been facing guys who know how to pitch the weaknesses, who pitch with their strength. You know, Shane had made a little adjustment. He's throwing a little harder tonight. He threw more four-seamers early in counts.

387.382 - 407.479 Kevin Barker

He hadn't been doing that. Been pitching a little backwards, 0-0. Tonight he didn't do that. He had four of the seven punch outs off the changeup. I'd mentioned that today on our show, that that's sort of the pitch he would go to with two strikes. That's kind of the difference from, you know, the first four starts to the last four starts where he hadn't given up a run in, what, 21 and two-thirds.

407.539 - 423.158 Kevin Barker

I mean, it's just ridiculous stuff being left-handed and, Having that kind of curveball, that kind of change up, the difference between the speed and the curveball and the four-seamer, you know, was a bigger separator tonight because his four-seamer was a little bit harder. I'm with you. And you could hear him grunting.

423.618 - 437.613 Kevin Barker

Like, you could tell he was just in the flow of what was going on, what the situation was. And when he needed a big pitch, you know, that sort of tough take pitch where it's right on the line of whether you swing at it or not. You know, he was giving it everything he got.

Chapter 4: What role does Yohendrick Piñango play on the team?

445.643 - 455.315 Kevin Barker

You know, with who they don't have in their lineup, it's going to be tough sailing and, you know, trying to win baseball games against a team like the Raisins against a guy like Shane McClanahan.

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455.335 - 459.861 Jeff Blair

Yeah, that's absolutely right. Shlomo and Scarborough, you're on Blue Jays talk.

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460.347 - 478.311 Shlomo

Boys, I think this game was a clear indication, as you said, that Tampa's a much, much superior team. It's pretty crazy how they do this. They take a year off from being great, and then they come back just with solid base running, solid everything. They take really good at-bats. They play baseball the way it's meant to be played. You can't really hate on that.

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478.832 - 486.642 Shlomo

I think what's striking to me right now, I guess with this Lauer move, is that loyalty is over. I'm going to find it very interesting what they do when

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486.993 - 514.975 Shlomo

barger gets healthy because the way pinago is looking right now the clutchness i know it's early already has i saw i saw a tweet that he already has a better career war as a blue jay than nate pearson in just a couple games um but like sosa you see guys like he has a crazy stat you guys like sosa and schneider who just aren't uh aren't doing much man and pinago is looking good and then you look at the farm you see all these good stories you see rj shrek player of the week

515.326 - 537.469 Shlomo

uh hitting hitting the lights off the ball like we got guys on the farm lighting it up i don't know how long can we wait for schneider to turn it around i know there's loyalty there and sosa and like these guys to do something because if sanchez is cold there's too many cold hitters on his team what do you guys think yeah i appreciate the call listen you know i i think tonight i mean look let let

537.871 - 554.924 Jeff Blair

We know that options are a thing. And Johendrik Pignango, unfortunately for him, has options left. You know, watching him tonight and, you know, he did scare the hell out of me going back in that ball on left field, I must say.

Chapter 5: How did the Rays capitalize on the Blue Jays' mistakes?

554.944 - 578.084 Jeff Blair

Caught it. He caught it, exactly. You know, I will say this. I think I'm not entirely certain it's that complicated right now. I think if the Jays are married to Davis Schneider, you know, it's pretty clear there's a great sense of loyalty there. If Addison Barger comes back, I, you know, I wouldn't have any issue sending, and I know that he doesn't have any options left, but I think D.F.

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578.204 - 601.712 Jeff Blair

Anglin and Sosa has to be on the table. You know, Davis can play second base if you need him. He has that utility. And Leneen can play second base. But I think there's a little more chance to move Davis around a little more if you're going to keep him. To me, the real question isn't what happens when Addison Barger comes back. To me, the question is what happens when Nathan Lucas comes back.

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601.732 - 613.673 Jeff Blair

Because now you're talking about cutting two deep instead of one deep. that, to me, is when it gets interesting for Davis Schneider. Because I do think Davis Schneider will survive whatever happens here.

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614.174 - 615.156 Kevin Barker

He does?

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615.497 - 638.003 Jeff Blair

And again, you know, depending on when Addison comes back. You know, the Jays are saying they think it's going to be relatively short-term. That's good. You know, I mean, I... dinner with Caleb today, we're both saying the same thing. I'll just say it. I thought he blew his UCL out. The next day when they said he had a limited range of motion and all that, I thought he's done.

638.505 - 662.158 Jeff Blair

He's not going to be back in the field this year. It's not that serious according to the Jays. It's just elbow irritation. So he comes back. To me, it's pretty simple. He comes back. Landin Sosa gets DFA'd. And then Nathan Lucas comes back. That's when it gets interesting for me with Davis Schneider because now you've got Lucas who can play all the outfield positions.

Chapter 6: What are the differences between the Blue Jays and the Rays this season?

663.505 - 681.835 Jeff Blair

I don't know how you feel about it, Kevin, but I think that's, you know, I know we're spending a lot of time talking about the 24th or the 25th and 26th guy. But in this case, I don't mind doing it because, you know, Henry Pignango, you know, we talk about guys taking intentful. So I see this guy going up to the plate with intent every time.

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682.22 - 698.699 Kevin Barker

Yeah, look, I talked to John a couple of times around the batting cage, and he was talking about, you know, which side of these guys hit from, which side of the plate. And, you know, you don't want to have too many lefties on the bench. You'd rather have a couple of righties, a couple of lefties instead of three lefties and a righty. I think they're past that.

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699.119 - 711.314 Kevin Barker

For me, I think it's performance driven. I think if one guy's giving you a better at bat, a tougher out than the other guy, the guy that's giving you the better at bat staying on the field or staying in the big leagues. And I think that's kind of where we're at.

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711.414 - 728.579 Kevin Barker

Whether you send down Sosa or whether you send down David Schneider, I think they're at the point with where they're at with their record. and what they're not doing offensively and who they don't have in their lineup, I don't think you can be sending down dudes who know how to hit anymore. You just can't. No matter if you've got three lefties and one righty.

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729.04 - 743.968 Kevin Barker

I just don't think it's about that anymore. And, you know, again, Davis Schneider, if you look at it, it's got eight at-bats in May. It's not like he's getting all these at-bats that you just have to keep him on the roster because you're giving him chance after chance after chance.

745.291 - 754.33 Kevin Barker

I think they're at the point now where you're keeping the best 13 that possibly gives you a chance to win a baseball game. For me right now,

754.31 - 778.495 Kevin Barker

one of the two righties he's got to go and and pinango stays i for me it's not an option anymore it's not you don't you don't overthink this thing you see the kid rolling out those at bats and taking jeff he took the change up like he knew it was coming yeah to get his bats are very oh they're really good they're professional really good they are they're professional at bats yeah and you just can't send that down anymore

Chapter 7: How will injuries affect the Blue Jays' roster decisions?

778.475 - 801.056 Jeff Blair

No, and I think that I understand why he was the, you know, the odd man out when when when Barger came back. But and I'm not just saying this on the basis of one at bat. The more I think about it, the more you look at what he's done. I'm with you. I got to take my best players here. I mean, you know, it is early and everything, but you're six games under 500. You got to start winning some games.

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801.096 - 823.715 Jeff Blair

Yeah, you want to win series. That's true. But you got to start winning some games. And you got the Tigers, you got the Pirates, and I believe you've got the Yankees coming up soon too. And you're going to run into, I believe, Skeens, Freed, and I don't know if you're getting Schlittler in that when you go in against the Yankees.

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823.755 - 833.71 Jeff Blair

But, you know, you're going to see some really, really, really good pitching here. And I don't think you can take a guy along because his face isn't a T-shirt from last year.

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834.061 - 853.72 Kevin Barker

That's funny. You know, I think what you mentioned there is very important. I think there's more righties they're going to face than lefties. Yeah. You can maneuver around the lefties. Yeah. You try and match up and win the games against the righties. You put your best lineup out there. You move forward. You give your lineup a chance to give competitive at-bats past the baton that way.

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853.801 - 857.324 Kevin Barker

And just right now, you know, we all root for David Schneider.

Chapter 8: What are the upcoming challenges for the Blue Jays in their schedule?

857.804 - 880.407 Kevin Barker

It's just right now he's not performing better than the other guy. and the other guy deserves more opportunities to roll out there and show everybody that he can continue to do exactly what he's doing. And for me right now, offensively, he's must-watch. The at-bat quality is right now better than most guys that they have in their lineup, and I think that's very important going forward.

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880.928 - 885.312 Jeff Blair

Rob, in Sydney, Australia, where I believe it's 2027 already.

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886.974 - 904.088 Rob

Well, it's not quite, almost. How are you, Rob? Hey, guys. Yeah, I'm good. It's a real pleasure. This is the first time I've called. I've listened to you guys for the last few years, and I just want to say you guys are fantastic. And for somebody like me who has nobody to talk to but the Blue Jays, you're like my lifeline, and it's really appreciated.

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904.828 - 906.03 Kevin Barker

Oh, we appreciate it, man.

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906.871 - 929.958 Rob

No, you guys are great. A million things I could ask, but one thing that just hit me today, and it's probably pretty obvious, is that we can dissect how bad the offense is and what's going on batter by batter. But it just seems when we're up against a quality starting pitcher, we're just out. Like, we're just noncompetitive. We get shut down. Today was a good example. Drew Rasmussen, Soriano.

930.018 - 939.206 Rob

I mean, good pitchers are good for a reason. But this worries me going forward because you just talked about the Yankees starting pitching. How are we going to compete if we can't get to the good starting pitchers?

940.908 - 963.839 Jeff Blair

Rob, I appreciate the call, and thank you for listening. And don't be a stranger. You know, the obvious answer I have is this, you know, no Kirk. And, you know, you've made this point, Kevin. Alejandro handles elite pitching well. No Kirk, a compromised Springer. We haven't seen Addison Barger yet.

963.859 - 984.6 Jeff Blair

And, you know, there's a guy who isn't on this team anymore who also, whatever people may have thought about him, you know, could handle elite pitching, and that's Beau Bichette. So I don't think it's any – I don't really think it's anything beyond that, you know. I don't know how you feel, but I don't think it's anything beyond that.

985.121 - 1005.514 Kevin Barker

Well, I think you still got to look that they still have Vladdy in the milieu or they have Springer leading off. They have Okamoto hitting cleanup. You know, I think that's three places that you can start right there. You know, just one of those three guys against quality pitching like the Rays can run out there just needs to, you know, have better at-bats and bigger spots. You know, Vladdy –

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