Andrew Shagrin and David Chekroun: Co-Founders of ICG at ESCP Business School in Paris

(0:00) Intro(3:27) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.(4: 14) Start of interview. (4:56) Drew Shagrin's origin story.(8:12) David Chekroun's origin story.(14:15) About the Institute of Corporate Governance at ESCP Business School, based in Paris.(19:13) The focus of ICG between students, alumni, execs, directors, investors, state representatives, judiciary, and regulators.(24:57) Corporate purpose under French law: changed in 2019 to explicitly take into consideration E&S issues.(27:53) Comparing ESG trends from France & EU. The G is rooted in each member state, but E&S falls under the EU green deal.(33:50) On board diversity: differences between US, France & EU. Sources: Copé Zimmermann Law (2011), Gender Equality Index (2018): on gender pay gaps, and Rixain Act (2021).(41:32) On State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) and the role of the state in corporate governance.(45:46) On the role of the state in promoting tech industry (startups and scale ups). BPI.(48:55) On employee representation in the boardroom. In France, since 2013.(54:19) On Entreprise à Mission structures and PBCs, balancing profit with social responsibility (in AI). The Danone case.(58:24) Challenges of corporate governance in France: share value, board composition, and stewardship. AFEP and MEDEF.(50:38) What are the 1-3 books that have greatly influenced your life: David:The World of Yesterday by Stefan Zweig  (1942)Lost in Translation: A Life in a New Language by Eva Hoffman (1989)The Anatomy of Corporate Law by Reiner Kraakman (2004)Drew:How Will You Measure Your Life? by Clayton Christensen (2012)(1:03:48) Who were their mentors, and what they learned from them.(1:06:11) Quotes they think of often or live their life by.(1:07:22) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that they love.(1:08:20) The living person they most admire. You can follow Evan on social media at:X: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__To support this podcast you can join as a subscriber of the Boardroom Governance Newsletter at https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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