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Boomer & Gio

Gruden Not Happening

28 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What sparked the discussion about Jon Gruden's potential return to the NFL?

0.031 - 20.13 Gio

So we were talking about the John Gruden stuff earlier and Roger Goodell, and it reminded me. So if John Gruden gets a job, and obviously I think it was ridiculous that he was offered a position on Aaron Glenn's staff, I would have loved for them to actually talk to John Gruden when the head coaching job was open.

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20.17 - 40.283 Gio

That's what I was screaming about, as opposed to hiring Aaron Glenn and then having him come in and be a John Gruden being assistant. But there was a lot of stuff in those emails. Now, usually when you get removed from something, and he hasn't been in the NFL, he's been to Barstool, whatever. They got hired by Barstool.

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Chapter 2: What controversies surround Jon Gruden's past emails?

40.323 - 61.726 Gio

He wasn't hired by, I don't know, Bear Stearns or something. So if he comes back into the NFL, people are going to dig that stuff up again and remind people what was in there. And so I went back and I looked. Yeah. There's going to be some bad PR when he first gets there.

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61.746 - 64.209 Boomer

Of course there is, and that's why he's suing the NFL.

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65.511 - 72.261 Gio

Yeah. I did like how he called Roger Goodell an anti-football P-word, though. That was a good one. Yeah, I mean.

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74.745 - 83.818 Boomer

What? I can understand. He did that when he was with ESPN, though, right? As opposed to that as being a coach.

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84.389 - 87.856 Gio

I think so. Yeah, I'm not positive exactly.

87.876 - 104.389 Boomer

These are the emails that were going back and forth between he and Bruce Allen. Bruce Allen was the president of the Washington Redskins when they were called that before they changed the name to Commanders. And this all started to come out when there was this real massive push to try to get Dan Snyder out of the league.

104.369 - 126.287 Gio

Yeah, we had Rich Gannon on, and Rich Gannon, who was a huge John Gruden guy like we are, believed that Dan Snyder's PR machine got those emails out to distract everybody from what was going on with Dan Snyder and try to get the heat off of him so he wasn't forced to sell the team. Now, it didn't ultimately work. And these are private emails that are going back and forth.

126.347 - 130.553 Gio

And some of the stuff that are in there, you don't say, you don't put anywhere.

130.593 - 136.201 Boomer

Now the question is, were these emails all within the discovery of some other lawsuit?

Chapter 3: How has John Gruden's career been impacted by his lawsuit against the NFL?

236.703 - 253.752 Gio

Well, it couldn't be Mark Davis because that's where he was. He's a guy that you would think about it. I mean, you know, you hear David Tepper's a little bit crazy. But here's the thing. You talk about rebel owner. I mean, apparently the Jets, according to reports, offered him a job within the organization. So is Woody Johnson the rebel owner?

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253.952 - 273.578 Boomer

Again, I don't know what that job was. I don't. I don't know if it was director of football operations. I have no idea what that job is. But it's still back in the NFL. NFL, regardless of what it is. And because it's reported doesn't mean it happened. I haven't heard that. But I was like you the first time we saw that yesterday. I was like, that's interesting. Yeah.

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273.959 - 297.726 Boomer

But I don't know how accurate that is. I don't know if that's a back channel discussion. And I know one thing, that it's not coming from the Jets unless it's coming from one of the guys that just got fired. You know, if one of the guys, one of the nine guys that just got fired got wind of something within the building, then that person could definitely be a leaking source.

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298.094 - 318.482 Gio

Yeah, I don't think it's something that's getting made up by any stretch of the imagination, especially when you consider this was Zach Rosenblatt, who's an athletic guy. I don't think he's throwing stuff out there that doesn't exist. It's an odd one. But if he really wanted to be a head coach, again, I think the only route for him...

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318.58 - 342.938 Gio

would be to come back and be a part of an organization that is one of the premier organizations, whatever that may be. And also, you know, working with a minority head coach would not be the worst thing either if he's trying to... get some of the bad PR off of him. But I don't know. I think maybe he's thinking, like, I want to win this lawsuit. I'll be happy to win the lawsuit.

343.439 - 355.176 Gio

My coaching days are behind me, and I'm really enjoying this job that I have now. But I just can't imagine with... Hearing him talk, the way he still loves football, talking to the players that he'd be okay with never coaching again.

355.316 - 377.359 Boomer

Here's the deal. John Gruden has one active lawsuit against the NFL, according to Grock. I just Grocked it. No, you did. Yeah, I filed it back in 2021 in Nevada State Court shortly after resigning as head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders in October 2021. The suit stems from the public release of those emails that Gruden sent years earlier while at ESPN.

377.339 - 402.002 Boomer

that contained racist, misogynistic, and homophobic language. Gruden alleges the NFL and Goodell conducted a malicious and orchestrated campaign to destroy his career and reputation by selectively leaking those emails during the league's investigation into the Washington commander's workplace issues while withholding similar content from others. Now, Gruden was not a part of the commanders.

402.082 - 402.522 Gio

He wasn't.

Chapter 4: What role did Dan Snyder play in the release of Gruden's emails?

402.542 - 430.103 Boomer

He was with ESPN. So so it's they're claiming or he's claiming torturous interference, which with employment contract negligence, civil conspiracy. And it's seeking monetary damages related to the remaining value of the Raiders' contract, lost endorsements. It's not a criminal case or a separate defamation suit, though elements touch on reputational harm from the leaks.

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430.124 - 434.83 Gio

Well, yeah, obviously. And this is a classic toothpaste tube genie bottle spot, right?

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435.17 - 441.499 Boomer

Can't do it. Right. And then it says in December 25, a Las Vegas district judge denied NFL motions to dismiss.

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443.118 - 467.592 Boomer

including there's a statute out there in Nevada. The NFL has continued appealing or filing motions. Another appeal noted in January 2026 filings. The case remains ongoing with no trial date set yet and discovery phases potentially ahead. Yeah, so he's not coming back. And by the way. Right now he's not. Think about this hiring cycle. How many coaches we either stepped down or got fired? Ten.

467.792 - 470.936 Boomer

Yeah, no one interviewed him. And nobody interviewed Bill Belichick either.

471.677 - 471.938 Gio

Yeah.

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Yeah.

473.51 - 483.084 Boomer

And Bill Belichick just got snubbed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I guess you either play the game or you don't.

Chapter 5: Why might John Gruden be hesitant to accept a coaching position?

591.438 - 597.185 Boomer

If, in fact, it's them or it could be the agents of the coaches that just got fired.

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597.325 - 601.11 Gio

Yeah, you got to look who has something to gain from this information being.

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601.13 - 622.762 Boomer

Well, I mean, yeah. So if an agent, let's say like Scott Boris, let's say he was the agent for Steve Wilkes. And Steve Wilkes gets unceremoniously fired in the middle of the season. And Scott Boris has Adam Schefter's number. And Adam wants to find out what happened with Steve Wilkes. Guess who's going to give him all the information? Oh, yeah, the agent. It's got to be Scott Boris.

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622.902 - 640.403 Boomer

It's not him, but I'm just using him because people know that name. So Scott Boris, you know, hey, look, man, they screwed him. They didn't give him the players. They didn't do this. You know, they wouldn't let him bring in his coaches. Now, all of a sudden, you see all that. And oh, by the way, they're considering John Gruden. Do you believe that? Yeah. Let's make them look crazy.

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640.543 - 644.693 Boomer

Let's make them look worse. So that's how it goes. And plus, you know, Adam goes to all the league meetings.

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