Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Yesterday we were talking about a report from Connor Hughes that said that the Jets were interested in Frank Reich coming in and having some sort of role offensively with the New York Jets. And I asked you, hey, is that true? And you said, I think Connor is on him. Well, Connor Hughes yesterday said, Puts out things are progressing between the Jets and Frank Reich per sources.
We'll see if the Jets can get it done. Their trying would be a big get for Aaron Glenn's offensive staff. They don't plan on firing Tanner Engstrom. but his role with the team will change. Sources expect Frank Reich to take over as play caller. We've said it many times, but you never know who's listening. You and Frank go back a very, very long time.
If people don't know that, college roommate, best friends there for a while, still keeping contact. So I ask you once again, is Connor Hughes on to something? I'm just, if he backs out on our golf trip, I'm going to be pissed. How are you?
Chapter 2: What role is Frank Reich expected to play with the Jets?
Yeah, I'm doing all right, G. You know, look, like I said yesterday, and I'll say it again, that the kind of news report, obviously, he had it nailed down. He was right. So, I mean, in terms of what he was saying prior to yesterday, what he's saying yesterday, I can't confirm that. I don't know. I haven't spoken to Frank in two days. Okay. So I can't confirm that. He's going dark on you.
You know what that means. Well, I mean, I also know he's on vacation right now going through a litany of opportunities. I do know that. The wife can't be happy about that. It's a vacation, and he's sitting there going, pouring over opportunities. It's football, man. You know, they get used to it. It's just football. It's just craziness. There's always something coming their way.
I'm meaning coaches. And if you're a good coach and you're a solid coach and you have a resume that Frank has, especially offensively, yeah, then you usually get a lot of opportunities.
And depending on, like, how long your contract is when you were fired and how much money you have coming your way, there is a real lack of incentive to go back and play, I mean, or coach, because there's offset language in the new contract that you get. So let's just use round numbers so everybody understands. Let's say Carolina's paying him $10 million a year.
If the Jets pay him whatever, $3 million or $2 million or $1 million to be the offensive coordinator, that goes against that language of the previous contract. So you're essentially coaching for the same amount of money, but you're now working. So it's like you're working for free. It's like what he did with Stanford last year. What he did at Stanford last year was really, I mean,
Our Jewish friends would say he was a mensch. He picked up what Andrew Luck needed. Andrew Luck had a fire. If people don't understand what happened at Stanford last year, Andrew Luck, who is now the GM of the Stanford football team, not the AD of Stanford, he's the GM of Stanford football, and he raised over $100 million for Stanford football. It's amazing.
Now, it's easy when you're out there with all those tech titans and all those people that graduated from Stanford, and your name is Andrew Luck, and you go walking in and you raise the money. It's crazy what he did out there. And Frank said it was remarkable just watching that part of it. And they had to let go of their coach last year. I think it was around March or April.
And, you know, now all of a sudden they're stuck. And I don't necessarily know that Andrew thought that he had a head coach in waiting on the staff that was left behind. So he called up Frank and asked Frank if he wouldn't mind coming to Stanford just as an interim head coach to get through the season and to teach kids and to teach coaches and to run an organization and to organize it all.
And he had to do it within like, you know, six weeks.
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Chapter 3: How does Frank Reich's hiring impact the Jets' offensive strategy?
Without knowing anybody. The last thing he thought at this time last year was that he was going to go to Stanford and go become the interim head coach. So he goes to Stanford, becomes the interim head coach. I think they won four games. And the big game that they won is their huge rivalry, and that's the game against California. They played it at home at Stanford.
After the game was won, I think they won like 31-10 or something like that. You know, people storm the field. That's how big that rivalry is between those two schools out there. So that was a huge moment for him and sort of when it was one of his best moments as a coach. And that includes the Super Bowl against the New England Patriots where they had the Philly special.
Yeah, he was on that staff. Right. So he said, you know, when he was in when he was in Indianapolis, he had seven different quarterbacks.
Starting with Andrew Luck, then Andrew Luck steps down, then it's Jacoby Brissett, and then it's Phillip Rivers, then it's Matt Ryan, then there was Sam Ellinger in there, there was Carson Wentz was in there, almost went to the playoffs with Carson Wentz the second time around. So the numbers, the offensive prowess that he has, and calling plays and designing plays, He's amazing that way.
And that's probably what the Jets really desperately need. Somebody who understands doesn't waste timeouts. Everybody's buttoned up. There's constant communication. So if it does happen for the Jets, it will be a great hire for the Jets. My question to all of this is like, who the F is the quarterback? Yeah. Who are you running out there as a quarterback? His offense is so good.
And I've seen what it looks like on paper. You better have somebody who knows what they're doing. Yeah, I mean, that's a huge question. Just to go back for a second, obviously, if they hire him, it's great for the Jets. But I said yesterday I was confused as to why he would take the job. And WFAN Digital puts out the video of me saying, why would Frank Reich take the job?
And there was several people at the same take, which we debunked yesterday, which is that, oh, if things go sour, he could be elevated to head coach after Aaron Glenn gets fired. That's not true. anywhere in Frank Reich's mind, that's not what it is. So more thinking about it just from everything you've told me and talking about the Stanford thing and the type of guy that he is.
The reason he would take this job is because he is a different type of person than your average guy with his resume. He went out to Stanford to help out a buddy because a buddy called him and ended up having this unbelievable experience out there. And by the way, what did that buddy do when Frank was the head coach? Quit. We're retired, yes.
I'm not going to use the word quit, but he ended up retiring after he had a great first season. At a very young age and shocking everybody. So Frank had a reason to have a bad taste in his mouth. Frank doesn't hold grudges. Yeah, and he knows that Andrew was a great person. That was a great thing for him at that point, or the right thing for him at that point in his career.
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Chapter 4: What challenges does Frank Reich face as the Jets' potential play caller?
You can't. I mean, I can't. And then Woody offered it to Todd Bowles, which was fine. And I was like, wow. Thank God. Yeah. Now I got to think about me now a little bit. You'll be fine. You'll be able to deal with it. No, because I'm going to have all you maniacs around here just going haywire. Well, what if it works out? Well, I pray that it does. Yeah.
And if there's anybody else that's praying that it does, it's Frank Wright, too. Well, of course. I mean, and I just... Listen, you've been in situations where you've had to talk about friends of yours in the past. This is a little bit more... hitting home than the others because it's the Jets and it's someone as close to you as Frank is.
So you ask the question, who the hell is the quarterback going to be? You mentioned Carson Wentz when you were running down the names. That's one guy that... that Frank has a previous relationship with. Well, he had a serious injury last year. I don't even know if he'd be even ready. Again, I really haven't spoken about him with any of that.
My thing was just the flavor of the temperature of what's going on around here. You know what I mean? I was just trying to give him a background of the temperature. Background of the temperature. And what's going on. And I did tell him, I said, I'll be honest, that I think Darren Muji has done an amazing job now setting this franchise up.
But in my eyes, under these current set of circumstances, and tell me if you agree with me or not, this now becomes like a three-year process. Unless they end up being terrible again next year, end up getting a quarterback at the top of the draft who is someone who steps in and is one of these guys. You still got to give that guy another year. You got to give that guy a year.
But at least you'll feel like you're on track. You know what I'm saying? All right, so let me ask you this question. They go 3-14 next year. Then what happens to the staff? What happens to the coaching staff? 3 and 14 is 3 and 14. Look, we have to look at this realistically. And this is me and you talking. So just a couple guys talking. Just a couple guys talking.
Yeah.
We have big microphones in front of our faces. A couple dudes. That means it booms out all over the place. That's right. I am a very practical guy. I look at things... in a realistic sense when it comes to stuff like this. And I know it's a great honor and a great opportunity to get back into the NFL, which he also has, I believe, another team. But I think he just has an affinity for Aaron Glenn.
A lot of people have an affinity for Aaron Glenn. You wouldn't know that just because... You don't know Aaron Glenn. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What was Frank Reich's coaching experience at Stanford?
I mean, that's what I just said, that that's why Frank would take the job is because it's a buddy who's calling. I need you. Frank, you can help me. By the way, if you're Tanner Engstrand, you're probably thinking, like, what the hell is going on here? Well, you bring me in. You give me Brady Cook for I don't know how many games because we're doing an organizational tank.
Like, you gave me Justin Fields who stinks, and now you're demoting me? I would not stay in that organization. I'd try to go somewhere else. That's a tough job. To make an offense look good, and Garrett Wilson goes down with an injury. I know.
So the other aspect, part of this from Tanner's standpoint, is you just don't know what he had to deal with, what was going on internally, the situational football stuff that Tony Romo often talks about. Did he get it right? Did he get it wrong? Those are things that are internal.
It's like in the beginning of the year when Aaron Glenn kind of screwed up a couple of timing mechanisms and situations, on the sideline, and Jet fans were going haywire because of it. And I'm like, hey, guys, he's learning on the job too. You know, everybody thinks it's easier to do all these things.
And then a couple of the things that he did do blew up in his face, and then he had a – I thought he got better as the season went on a little bit, but the chances of them winning late in the season, you know, kept dropping and dropping and dropping. I just – it's a – look, it is – and that's the other thing, too.
So, like, when you're the head coach, like, when you get the job as a head coach, I always believe you should be hiring the people that you want around you. Like, John Harbaugh is going to be hiring the people who he wants around him. That's a little bit different because he has 18 years of experience and a resume, and a lot of coaches have gone through Baltimore.
So he can re-up with a lot of those coaches from different years of past, like he's doing with Denard Wilson.
Mm-hmm.
Aaron Glenn, they gave him the opportunity to hire his coaching staff. He fired a number of his coaches, got rid of a number of his coaches. Demoting others. I know, and I'm not even sure. If you're coming in as an offensive coordinator, do the guys on the offensive staff even know your system? And you're running your system.
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Chapter 6: How has Frank Reich's past influenced his coaching style?
And that's what Darren Muji is in the midst of doing right now, which I can really appreciate. And I think he's off to a flying start as a general manager because his first-round pick, Membu, has turned out to be a really good player.
If the Jets end up with Wink Martindale as their defensive coordinator and Frank Reich as an assistant head coach and play caller and offensive coordinator, I think that is two really, really impressive big hires for Aaron Glenn that makes you feel a hell of a lot better about the direction of the team. Now the question is who the hell is going to be playing quarterback, and we just don't know.
It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. Hi, Boomer and Gio on the Fan and CBS Sports Network. We've got Jerry Recco here, a lighter night in sports as we are transitioning into life without football, even though we have the Super Bowl. Things are going to be different coming up as we get closer and closer to spring. What's up, Jerry?
Yeah, it's your favorite time of year, pitchers and catchers. Oh, yeah. Isn't that the best? Well, we got March Madness coming up. That's why you got to look at it. We got the Masters right around the corner. That is very good. Very true. We are brought to you by Chef IQ, precision cooking, effortless results. ChefIQ.com. You guys talking about the Frank Reich situation.
A couple of other notes from around the league. The Chargers do indeed hire Mike McDaniel as their offensive coordinator, and the Commanders taking Durante Jones from the Vikings to be their new defensive coordinator. We've got the Seahawks and Patriots in the Super Bowl, of course. Cooper Cupp met the media yesterday after their big win on Sunday night over his former team, the Rams.
First things first, really amazing the run that they have made.
Seeing the excitement that there is just around Seattle, how many people are just bought into it and all in on what we've created in this building and how it's permeated out. It's really cool. It's really cool to be a part of. Looking forward to going out there in a couple weeks and the opportunity to seal the deal.
This is the best time for the players this week. where you get to enjoy the spoils of your victory, the fact that you're going to the Super Bowls, you're figuring out how many tickets you need and all the different travel arrangements for your family and friends. It's a crazed time.
And the other thing that's going on is that most teams put in their game plans this week, and then they tweak them next week when they get to Santa Clara. So they'll still be working on a normal schedule, but within the normal schedule, they'll have different types of – conversations about tickets, about where they're staying, what's going on, where they're practicing.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Frank Reich's hiring for the Jets' quarterback situation?
I might have the same jeans on. Wow, look at that. Although these jeans stretch. Those jeans didn't stretch back in the day. Those jeans were nut huggers.
Yeah.
You love a nut-hugging pant. Oh, yeah. Yes, you do. We've heard and seen. We've seen. Well, you guys are all over that. Well, I mean, can't avoid it sometimes. It's not like we're all over it. It's just when it's there. It's in your face. You see it.
Yeah.
Even though I will say, as funny as it was when a caller called up and said that the Ethos commercial you could see... The hammer, you can't. No, you can't. It's not a fair thing. It's out there. There's definitely pictures where it's out there. Like the Ford, when you went to the auto show that one time, that picture, that was a bad one. The softball one was definitely the worst.
But the Ethos one, it can have you fun, but let's be fair. You don't see it popping through with the Ethos. In Los Angeles, things not going so great for the Rams. Here's Kobe Durant, their quarterback. It is tough to be done and not be going to the Super Bowl.
Give it all we got. And, you know, I played 11 as one, man, and that's all you can really ask for.
That's it, 11 as one, that's all you can do. Why this has been a special group?
Just loving to come to work and doing what we got to do, man. Just, you know, the brotherhood, players to coaches, coaches to players. Just everybody around this facility, man, just... Love being here.
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Chapter 8: How does Frank Reich's hiring affect the Jets' future prospects?
There we are. Wow. Look at that. I don't even know who. I know it's me and Frank. I don't even know who the other guys are. Really? I have no idea where that was taken from. Hmm. Look at that. Is that ridiculous or what? Interesting photo. Is that Nutley's? Is that what that shirt says? A jersey? Nutley's? Hutley's. Hutley's.
Hutley's.
That must be out in Islip then. Oh, you know what? That guy to my right. Bernie Sanders?
No, I think... We know his name.
Do you have his name?
I do.
Is that Dave Anderson? Is it Bobby McKinnon? No. What are the names of the people in the picture with us? Do you want to try again, or do you want me to tell you? I want you to tell me, Steven. James Dominic. Oh, yeah. Jimmy Dominic. Dominic. Dominic. Yeah. Okay. Who's the guy to my left? Hello? Hello?
Richard. It's his brother.
Oh, that's Richie Dominic. Dick Dominic. Oh, is that their sister? I guess it is. I guess that's the Dominic family.
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