Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Of course, it is Groundhog Day today. We've got some Knicks to get to, some hirings to get to, both head coach and still some coordinator stuff that has not been settled here in New York. But the big football story was off the field.
on Friday when the rest of the Epstein files were released to the public by the DOJ and many, many familiar names in there across politics and entertainment and everything else and Giants co-owner Steve Tisch named in there. There were emails back and forth between him and Jeffrey Epstein talking about women and women he might see or take to a show. Steve Tisch
Relays in a statement that these were conversations about adult women. He had never gone to the island. He had other conversations with Jeffrey Epstein. And we will see now what the NFL decides to do about it, if anything, but just crazy. Going through all that stuff and seeing all the names and the people that were involved. You'd heard a lot about it. We had drips and drabs, but this was the...
This was it. This was the big one. Good morning, Boomer. How are you?
Yeah, the big one in sports, and I'm doing well. And one of the reasons for that, obviously, is because Steve Tish is an owner of the New York Giants. You know, the interesting thing is if you go back to 2006 is when Epstein first got pinched for all of this stuff. And he got basically a plea deal for 13 months. And then 2019, you come back, and that's when the Miami Herald investigative reporting
ended up really getting into this whole thing and ended up with these major charges where supposedly Jeffrey Epstein kills himself here in jail. And the thing about this is that... So it's 2006 when he has first gotten... It's got people get wind of it. And then it's 2013 when Steve Tisch is basically emailing him. So seven years after the initial. Sure.
But it was six years before the next arrest. Yes. So he was like right in the middle of this. And he obviously invited him to some giant games and stuff. It seemed like Jeffrey and didn't seem like we all know what kind of guy Jeffrey Epstein is. The pig.
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Chapter 2: What is Steve Tisch's connection to the Epstein files?
And the fact of the matter is, is he had access to major people, major money through his initial job at Bear Stearns. And he turned that into this web of people that all had influence in different areas, whether it be in the American government, whether it be in, I would say, movies or entertainment. And he was running in those circles with Ghislaine Maxwell. And Ghislaine Maxwell is in jail.
Epstein was in jail, killed himself, but I'm still wondering why anybody else isn't arrested. Yeah, I'm not sure. I don't understand why are those two the only two that were arrested and other people who participated? With things on the island have not been arrested. Now, nobody has accused Steve Tisch of being on the island. He was never on the island.
Nobody has come out as far as any of these documents say accused Steve Tisch of doing anything unlawful other than having tawdry emails back and forth with pedophile.
Which is right, is a horrible thing. But I mean, so this is where it's almost impossible to talk about these things without enraging one person or another. But this is how the NFL has to look at it. And this is what in the conversation that I need to have this morning about it.
And no one is saying or excusing Steve Tisch from emailing with Jeffrey Epstein, who back in 2006 all the way through 2008 was convicted for this. And yes, it was a big controversial thing that he didn't get time in jail and it was a work release program and all of that. But everybody knew at that point, if you were associating with Jeffrey Epstein, what he had been convicted of.
So the fact that you were having these emails, that's guilt by association.
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Chapter 3: What details emerge from Tisch's emails with Jeffrey Epstein?
I've never heard guilt by association. But... And it's a horrible look, and it's a terrible PR. It's something he's never going to be able to wash off of him. But now it's like, if you're the NFL, is there enough there where you have to come in and say, you got to sell your 45% because this, this, this, this, and this? Do they have to do their own investigation?
And as I thought about this the entire weekend... I don't know if they can do anything about it. And I know that sounds crazy to people because we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein and communicating with Jeffrey Epstein. And we're talking about women that Steve Tisch and Jeffrey Epstein are talking about. And there's something in the email.
It's like, oh, they're worried about the age gap and they're going to go to a Broadway show or whatever. I mean, it looks horrible. But Steve Tisch is saying adult women. We don't have any other proof of that. We don't know that he was at the island. We don't know the age of the person.
He claims he was not at the island. So what can the NFL do? There's nobody accusing him of anything. You read the emails. There's no third person accusing him of anything. You know, I mean... And by the way, you know, even though Jeffrey Epstein was arrested, he was never convicted because he killed himself or somebody killed him.
The second time, yes.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. The second time. I mean, you know, so we all know what... We all like to think we know what's going on down there. And there's been this feverish pitch to get as much information as possible. And with that news dump on Friday, people have been calling through this looking for famous names.
And, of course, you know, Steve's comes up and some of the emails that come up and they're tawdry. There's no two ways about it. But, you know, it's interesting because Roger Goodell, where is he or where is he going today? He's going out to San Francisco. And either tomorrow or Wednesday, he'll give the State of the NFL.
I think it's Tuesday. I think it is.
It is Tuesday. So he'll give the State of the NFL speech like he does every year. And I'm sure the last thing he expected to have. on the docket to have to talk about or answer questions about is about one of his owners that is caught up in these emails with the Epstein file dump on Friday.
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Chapter 4: How does the NFL plan to respond to the Tisch controversy?
And all this stuff is coming out. I'm sure every single release or anything, he was probably on that constantly, biting his fingernails, going crazy, walking around. I would have absolutely imagined he thought that this was coming.
And I would have imagined that he would have already had his statement made up then.
Yeah, which I didn't. Yeah, I mean, whatever. There's no real perfect statement in a situation like this. But it's like, it's just when you throw in there. We also talked about movies and philanthropy.
Like, we're supposed to be like, oh, okay. Now I get it. Like, I just thought you guys were talking about pedophilia. But now that you talked about movies, this feels so much better. Like, it's like, why do you put that in there? Just silly. I don't know.
Whatever. Well, I mean, so this will be interesting for Roger Goodell for sure. This will be an inquisition as opposed to a press conference.
But I feel like he could very easily in the...
nation stages of this thing right nuance nuance nuance a message uh but to be able to be like we got information about this just a few days ago uh we are going to look into it and we will update you with any findings that we have it's still early in the process we just became aware of this on friday obviously this is super bowl week you know we're going to talk to steve move on you know i mean this is a this is an easier one to to punt than maybe some of the others
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Tisch's association with Epstein for his career?
And they gave it to me. And I did the best I could. So there you go. So if you got a problem with that, go above me.
and anybody who's sitting there complaining about not going out be happy you still have a job here you'll lose it i've heard that one before whoa god just be happy i want to hear that tape this is a thing i can't stand what's that is grown men complaining about not getting invited to things we touched the nerve here what a bunch of loser sensitive pricks
Wow, man.
I thought you were considering one P word. You went with a different one there. It was a nice audible. I wanted to say that. I saw you purse the lips and then you...
Saw the defense. We had a great time.
Good. Super Bowl week is here. The teams have arrived in Santa Clara, so you'll get all that nonsense starting probably later today.
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All right, Boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS Sports Network. Super Bowl week. Big storylines, not so many. There's not a lot of them. Roger Goodell is going to be talking about some controversies at his State of the League address with the lack of minority head coaches and coordinators being hired and also the Steve Tisch scandal.
Jeffrey Epstein situation that happened on Friday that we talked about at 6 o'clock this morning. So that'll be a big story. I don't know as far as the stories within the game and Sam Darnold's going to be a big one, the Patriots being battled. We'll be right back.
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