Chapter 1: What changes are being made to the Jets coaching staff?
It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. Hi, Boomer and Geo coming to you live from the Build Ford Tough studio on the Fan and CBS Sports Network. CBS Sports Network showing a little bit of Times Square yesterday with the snow. And I don't know. I couldn't really judge how many inches the city got. I think we got about 11 and a half. That's what it was?
I think, depending on what part of the city. I think lower Manhattan didn't do nearly as bad. But I'm still 9 to 10 inches. It's a big deal. It is a big deal. I mean, like, all right, so we got the snow. Thank God we didn't get the ice.
You see those poor people down in Tennessee and down in South Carolina with all the ice and there's trees and trees busted all over the place, people losing power. Yeah, well, that's what I was saying. You got a generator, kid. Prior to the storm, those are the things that you really worry about.
Katie Neal, who used to work here, who is now still part of Odyssey down in Nashville, it's like our country music place.
uh guru down there she was posted on social media all the trees were cracking and popping and falling in her backyard down there in nashville scary stuff man scary stuff is right you know what i mean uh all right so the jets have decided that nothing was good enough last year and i can understand why and aaron glenn is trying to improve this coaching staff he had already fired
Steve Wilks during the season, and Wink Martindale and the Jets have been talking. Wink now with his second interview. It's not the only person they're talking to, but they really do apparently want Wink to come in here. Tanner Ingstrom was the offensive coordinator last year. Didn't have a ton to work with.
They gave him Brady Cook at the end of the year, I think for reasons we understand, that they were okay with losing some games towards the end, at least organizationally, maybe. But Aaron Glenn is now saying, we're going to reassign Tanner Engstrom somewhere else in the organization and bring in somebody who is going to be the head man on offense.
So, turns out that on X over the weekend, the name that kept popping up all over the place is your buddy, your friend, your college roommate, your former teammate, Frank Reich. So, if there's anybody other than Frank and the New York Jets that may know what's going on between Frank and the New York Jets, it might be you. So, what do you know about the Jets talking to Frank Reich?
Yeah, I saw Connor Hughes' report, and all I can say is that Connor Hughes knows what he's doing. Okay. He's very much on top of it. I am not a leaking source. He's talking to somebody, whether it be agents or people within that building over there, that are giving him good information, solid information, and accurate information. Okay? That's what I can say, and I can say that...
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Chapter 2: Who is Frank Reich and why is he being considered for the Jets?
He appreciates the honesty and the things that I tell him. Whether or not he will decide to take it or they even offer it to him, that's still yet to be seen. Yeah, I mean, he's someone who's well-respected throughout the league. Believe me, I'm telling you, when he was initially let go from Carolina, I mean, all these consulting jobs come. You know, like, can you look at this guy?
Can you look at that guy? Can you evaluate these quarterbacks? Can you look at that quarterback? What do you think about this quarterback? What if we trade for that quarterback? I mean, you know, he's been in that world for two years now. And then when he went to Stanford, you know, he did his buddy Andrew Luck really solid because he went out there, just stabilized the whole thing.
I think they ended up winning four games. And the biggest game they won was the most important game in the eyes of Stanford people, and that's the California game where they beat Cal on their home field and all the fans rushed the stadium and the field and everything. And Frank said it was one of the best feelings in his life as a coach that he was able to corral this
coaching staff that he inherited, the players that he inherited. They lose a lot of guys in the transfer portal. They don't bring a lot of guys in from the transfer portal. I mean, it was quite the year for him out at Stanford. So, look, I think he's seriously considering a number of things, and the Jets would be one of those. I don't know how or why he would ever take this job.
The only way I could see that he would take this job is if he was getting paid like a head coach and got a guaranteed contract that was worth, I don't know, $15 million a year or something like that. They're not paying him that kind of money. I can tell you that. The point that I'm making is, though, if he has these other options... I don't know what the other options are. I really don't.
I mean, you know, the conversations we had... He's on vacation now, so... But the conversations we've had are... There was a couple college offers. There are a couple pro deals going right now. And as coaches are still moving around, a lot of these coaches have not built their staffs fully yet.
So there could be an opportunity for him to go with somebody who's getting a new job and then getting a four-year deal or a five-year deal with a new job as opposed to a job that is wrought with a lot of uncertainty right now. Does he have any years left on the Carolina contract? One year left on the Carolina contract. Okay.
I mean, that's another reason why there's no way in hell am I taking that jet job. Hold on now. Why? I mean, that's you. That's not him. He is an extremely, extremely confident coach and... He has an incredible knack to get through to people. I mean, I've never seen anything like it. That's why he wanted to coach it and I didn't. The patience that he has is remarkable.
And the patience I have, as you guys know from working with me, is a very short fuse. Yes. I mean, I'm not saying that the guy doesn't have confidence or isn't a great coach. I'm saying that those are the reasons why I wouldn't take the job because it's just such a bad situation.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the Jets' quarterback situation?
I don't know. Believe me, I went through the list of free agents, and, of course, everybody assumes that he would reunite with Carson Wentz. I don't know if he would or not. And Carson Wentz is coming off of a very significant injury. Yeah. I don't know where that would be. I mean, I guess it could possibly be with the Jets if Carson's healthy enough.
Yeah, but I can't – like I don't – like I didn't really talk to him too much about that. I was just – you know, he is so thorough in his thought processing. You know, and I'm kind of more of a – somebody that's listening and giving my opinions, you know, that I think are realistic. And like we all think, and most coaches think that they could fix the team.
Like, you know, Mike McCarthy thinks he's going in to take over the Pittsburgh Steelers and win another Superbowl. Yeah. I mean, I, that's the way coaches, you have to think that way. You know, when Aaron Glenn took this job, he's like, I could turn the jets around. I'm going to be totally positive in that building. I can, my way is a way that is a winning way. And all coaches feel that way.
Yeah, but I mean, coaches also, like Frank, that have been around are really smart about situations. You're talking about a process being thorough. That's why it would be surprising to me that he would look at where the Jets are right now and be like, this is something I want to be a part of, especially if he's still getting paid the Carolina contract.
I just, for me, everything that, for anybody... That has other options. Right now, where the Jets are in this organization, it just would be a strange time for him to want to join it. I mean, this is why the Jets had to go with someone like Tanner Engstrom, who had never been an offensive coordinator before, to take the job.
A guy like Steve Wilks, who was working for the Charlotte 49ers instead of the San Francisco 49ers, to come here and take the job. Because no one wants it. I mean, the thing about, you've got to remember, first and foremost, Aaron and Frank were teammates. Yeah. On the Jets in 1996. So I know that they know each other. And I know they know each other from coaching circles as well.
And Frank, with all of his head coaching experience, also brings another aspect of to the Jets if he came here, or wherever he may go. He would help manage games. He would be a guy that would understand, do we go forward or fourth down? Do we kick the field goal? And that's the kind of thing. The one unfortunate thing for Frank is that He's had so many quarterbacks as a head coach.
I think it was in Indianapolis. He had Andrew Luck. They go to the playoffs, and then Andrew Luck decides to retire right in the middle of training camp the next year and inherits Jacoby Brissett. And then it goes down the list with Phillip Rivers and Matt Ryan and what's his name? Carson Wentz was there.
He never had the same quarterback back-to-back, and yet they were still extremely competitive, much like they were this year until Daniel Jones got hurt. There's something about that organization, kind of like the Jets, that you just can't seem to find the right guy. They're always too good to be at the top of that draft to get one of the better quarterbacks coming out of college.
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Chapter 4: How does Aaron Glenn plan to improve the Jets' performance?
And Mike Frank's not going to want that. No, of course. And Wink Martindale's not going to want that. Aaron Glenn's not going to want that. Yeah, because Aaron Glenn won't be here. Yeah, exactly. Let's go to Mike in Massapequa. What's going on, Mike?
Hey, guys. What's happening? What's up, man? What's going on? Do you think maybe he's interested in the jet job because he knows Aaron Glenn's going to be out pretty quick?
No, Mike. Mike, you've got to know Frank. That's not who Frank is. Frank is an incredible human being. He's not a Shiv guy like Aaron Glenn. They were teammates. He's not going to stab him in the back. Frank is as loyal as they come, really, honestly.
I mean, this is why everybody likes him because even when he was in Philadelphia with Doug Peterson, they went to the Super Bowl understated, not out there letting everybody know that he's tooting his own horn and ends up getting the Indianapolis job because Josh McDaniels leaves.
You know, and he wins the press conference the first day that he gets the job because he said, hey, being the backup has worked out pretty well for me in my career. I mean, that's the kind of humble guy he is. Yeah. I mean, I saw him do an interview on Pro Football Talk with Chris Sims and Mike Florio this past week. And they had him on, I guess, for two reasons.
One was because he was the guy that won the Oiler game as the starter, kind of like Jared Stidham. He hadn't started all season, but won the Oiler game. What I forgot about that 32-point comeback as the quarterback of the Bills against the Oilers is that the week before they did play the Oilers, I think, down in Houston, and that's where Jim Kelly got hurt.
And Frank did play in that game against the Houston Oilers. So now the next week they come, they're playing the wild card game, and then, of course, Frank is lighting it up in the second half. He had a tough first half, but the second half he really played well, and they ended up coming back and winning.
So they had him on, and they were interviewing him, and you could just see he's incredibly humble, incredibly competitive, really bright, but extremely humble and respectful. So that's probably one of the reasons why I would think that Aaron Glenn would seriously consider him. Well, if he's as bright as you say he is, he's not taking the jet job.
By the way, that reminds me, when you talk about Frank Wright going on as a guest because of what happened in the comeback and the starter and everything, him being a backup. So put on your lame, basic sports talk radio hat here for a second, Al. Give me... three Super Bowl week guests that every show will be asking for this week with the Seahawks or next week with the Seahawks and the Patriots.
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Chapter 5: What are the challenges rookie quarterbacks face in the current Jets environment?
You got to think about this matchup. Take care of your chickens. Omar Sean Lynch. Aha! There's one. You're basic. You're basic. You're basic. He's always a great interview, but obviously everyone's going to be asking, should you have run the ball in that situation?
Richard Sherman.
Yeah, he'd be a good one, but there's another one in particular who was a big part of the end of that game. You want to give it to him? Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler would be the other one. Well, he's not coming on.
He'll never give you the real answer. That's what sucks about him. He's done interviews. He doesn't give the real answer.
But remember, this is when he picked the ball off in this matchup. This was not when he got benched the next year. He got benched the next year. Yeah, but they're going to ask then, why'd you get benched? I have no idea. Yeah, exactly, which is no reason why you would put him on. He got into it with a defensive coach named Steve Belichick.
Well, why not just say that? I don't understand why that's so taboo.
Especially at this point, all these years later. It's insane. I don't know. What about Russell Wilson? Yeah, I mean, yes, there'll be another guy. But I thought specifically, like, it's got to be Marshall Lynch. It's got to be Malcolm Butler. Darryl Bevel, maybe. Yeah, Darryl Bevel. Pete Carroll. That's what everybody's going to be thinking about.
Those names from that game and all the controversy that happened. What a game and what a controversy. What? What? What you want is what we had yesterday. We had two games that there's a million things you could talk about. Yeah. And that's what you want in a Super Bowl, and that's why that Super Bowl was so great. And the fact that the other defensive back, Browner, forget his first name.
Was it Brandon Browner? You know, I play with, I think it was his dad or his uncle, Ross Browner. Okay. From Notre Dame. I got to look that up. I forget. But anyway, he was a Seahawk. before he became a Patriot. So he was in all those practices watching all those plays.
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Chapter 6: What are the expectations for Matthew Stafford's future?
And sure enough, when they lined up in that formation, they knew that play was coming. Yep, and that matchup I'm sure will be beaten to death leading up to Super Bowl week because it was an exciting game, and everybody will harken back to that. It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. Hi, Boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS Sports Network.
Jerry Recco back with us, and he's got everything from yesterday and more. What's up, Jerry? We're brought to you by Chef IQ, precision cooking, effortless results, chefiq.com. You had the Seahawks and the Patriots moving on to the Super Bowl. Here's how we got there, Seattle and Los Angeles from the Pacific Northwest. Here was Kevin Harlan.
This was the Cooper Cup touchdown to put the Seahawks up 11. Shotgun snap. Four-man rush. Crumbling pocket throws. Caught five. Diving in. Touchdown, Cup. Touchdown, Seattle. Sam Darnold has just thrown his third touchdown pass tonight. 13 yards to the former Ram. And that was Kevin Harlan. Great point. On the fan, yes. Sam Darnold's third touchdown pass indeed. 346 yards passing.
On the day, Seattle wins 31-27. Now down four, the Rams did have the ball, had a monster drive that got all the way down to the six-yard line. But on third down, incomplete. So then on fourth down, this is how it sounded in Seattle with Seahawks Radio.
Fourth down and four for the Rams. Williams in the backfield. Adams to the left. Hukunukuwa slots on the right side. Stafford. Shotgun snap. Pump fake. Has time. Looks. Fires to the end zone. Almost intercepted.
by Witherspoon. He jumps in front of the intended receiver. And it was incomplete. Turned him over on downs, and 31-27 would be the final score as Seattle wins the NFC Championship game in their own building. We mentioned Darnold's numbers, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Ten catches, 153, and a touchdown.
Not only did Cooper Cupps score, he had Jake Bobo come up with a touchdown catch in this game as well, and Kenneth Walker ran for a score. Here was on Fox after the game. This was Darnold reacting to the win.
What does the moment mean? You're going to the Super Bowl. It's amazing to be able to do it with these guys in the soccer room, with this coaching staff. That's why it means the world to me.
Yep, amazing, no doubt. And amazing for a veteran, a guy like Demarcus Lawrence, so many years in Dallas, now in Seattle. He was on CBS postgame.
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Chapter 7: How does the Jets' situation compare to other struggling teams?
I'm truly blessed. Thankful to be a part of this great organization, this great team that we put together, man. The worst can't even explain this moment.
I always love when they say man to a beautiful woman right there. Man. Right next to them. You got Julian Love and Leonard Williams going to the Super Bowl along with Sam Donald. Former New York players.
That's right.
Well, Williams played for both teams. That's right. Here was Smith and Jigba on Fox. He was the LFG Brady player of the game.
How do you describe this journey for you and your teammates to get to the Super Bowl after such an incredible season? That's what it's about. It's about the journey and what we had to come through, ups and downs. You know, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I love this team. The way we fought, ups and downs. I'm just super proud of this team, super proud to be a Seahawks.
And then this is also a man of faith. He takes it quite seriously.
I want to give all glory to God. Without him, I'm nothing.
Not a damn thing, huh? Yeah. Here was on the other side of things. You got the Rams. Their season ends. Matthew Stafford loses despite going for 374 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. That's why when a reporter asked Sean McVay this, he didn't quite appreciate it.
Sean, do you expect Matthew Stafford to be back next season?
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Chapter 8: What personal anecdotes do the hosts share about their weekend experiences?
You guys were out there. Doing wonderful shows at night. Recording shows. We had Super Bowl 50. That was Carolina and Denver. That was Peyton Manning and Cam Newton. Yeah, which had some juice. And it's the Super Bowl 60 ten years later. Can you believe that? It's ten years later. Yeah, and Drake May was 13 years old back then.
Yes, as a child rooting for the Carolina Panthers who set up in the upper decks to watch his team play in the Super Bowl. Oh, it's amazing, isn't it? What a wonderful story. And now he'll be there. Here was Mike Vrabel. Knew we could do this. 10-7 was the final. You have to believe things sometimes before you can see them. Well, now they can see them because they went out and did them.
Here was May. We are winners again in New England.
We changed that narrative and look forward to bringing our best football for Santa Clara.
That would be pretty special. For those long-suffering Patriot fans, it's been a tough road for them for the last couple of years. I mean, ownership, right? That's a big part of it. Yeah. You're not wrong. Well, you know what? They drafted a kid, and they brought in Mike Frabel, who brought in Josh McDaniels. I mean, it doesn't get any better than that. Here was Leonard Taylor.
So I guess he was part of the Jets at one point. He was taking off the practice squad. And he was the one that got his hand on the Will Lutz 45-yard field goal. It was Taylor? It was Taylor, huh? Well, I mean, that's what all the videos say. Wow, okay. If I got it wrong, I got it wrong. No, I think you got it right. This was Taylor in the locker room.
You did help the team.
I mean, you know, because when you watch that, you look, initially you thought that it was like the bad kick. Yeah. And then you watch it from behind. And then all of a sudden you see that ball go to the left immediately. Yeah. Yeah, the one replay from behind shows he got his hand on it. That kind of redirected it, so very exciting for him. Not so exciting for Jarrett Stidham.
Here he was talking about up 7-0, the fact that they chose to go for the fourth down, not kick a field goal to go up 10-0.
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