Chapter 1: What are the latest updates on the John Harbaugh sweepstakes?
It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. All right, Boomer and Geo coming to you live from the Bill Ford Tuff Studio on the fan and CBS Sports Network. A lot of good calls today. That does not happen a lot. A lot of very good phone calls. We usually get... Some bad ones, and we're shaking our heads, but a lot of people with some thoughts on what's happening with the Giants and John Harbaugh.
And that's 888-808-1019. The Red Pocket Mobile fan line is brought to you by your new ultimate cell carrier, Red Pocket Mobile. Yeah, well, I mean, huge news. John Harbaugh's don't come along very often. Neither do Kevin Stefanski's, for that matter. And I would say that there's going to be a really good bunch of coaching candidates available for a lot of these jobs.
And there's still one job I'm still waiting to hear about, and that's Tampa Bay. Yeah. And there was supposedly – and I don't know if it's Tampa Bay was the team. It could be another team. Supposedly somebody reached out to John Harbaugh, who still has a team – a coach in place. So there could be another – opportunity out there for somebody. Now, it could be Tampa.
Now, Tampa would be a very good landing spot. The ownership there is well-liked. You have Baker Mayfield. You have the quarterback. There's a team that's won multiple Super Bowls in their history. They've got a great fan base. The weather is a hell of a lot better than it is up here. I mean, that would be a competitive place for Jimmy Harbaugh. Remember, the Glazers don't mess around.
They own one of those soccer teams over in Europe, and You know, they went after Arians. They got Arians. You know, they brought in Todd Bowles after he got fired. They got Tom Brady, for God's sakes. And they went and got Tom Brady.
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Chapter 2: How could the Bucs potentially steal John Harbaugh from the Giants?
That's what I'm saying. So, you know, they may feel like they need a jolt or something with their fans because of the disappointing finish to their season. You know, and it's like somebody else's trash is somebody else's treasure. I can understand after 18 years, just like Bill Belichick in New England.
After 20 years, and you don't have the same players, and not everybody's following the same suit, and players change, the game changes. And I think in the case of Baltimore, once that story came out about Lamar Jackson, that came from internally. There was something internal there.
And I don't know if that was internal so Steve Bichotte, the owner, would read it and say, you know what, we got a problem at quarterback. Or was that planted by somebody in the coaching staff to protect the head coach? Yeah. You never know. And you never know about the internal relationships that are going on.
I would think that Joe Shane is going to do what John Mara wants him to do, and that is to try to really restore the credibility of the New York Giants. And in order to do that, you've got two guys, one of the two guys you could hire, I think that would do that immediately. And don't forget, we're talking about the Bucs and going out and getting coaches and stuff.
I mean, it's a long time ago now, but they went out and got John Gruden and won a Super Bowl. And they were very aggressive with that. They traded for him. That's what I'm saying. And it's the NFC we talked about. Harbaugh's probably going to want to be in the NFC. If the Bucs' job comes open, that would be a major competitor for the Giants.
But I still say, though, the Giants are a legacy team, just like the Browns are a legacy team. And I think the Harbaughs are from Cleveland. I think somebody here... on the line of saying that we can go to him if you want.
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Chapter 3: What factors make Tampa Bay an attractive coaching destination?
But I still think that the Browns, to me, ownership is goofy. And they do goofy things there. That's a nice way of putting it. I mean, but they do crazy things there. Yeah, I know. I mean, they had a great draft. And, you know, they bring Shador in. They got Deshaun there. I'm like, well, what are you guys doing?
Yeah, I don't think they have any idea what the hell's going on with the quarterback, and I'm not even sure why. You could tell that Stefanski wanted no part of Shador Sanders being drafted. I don't think that anybody did. It almost was like that came from ownership as well, the way that those guys didn't even cut it. I don't think he wanted anything to do with Deshaun Watson either.
Let's go to Ron in Buffalo. What's going on, Ron?
First-time caller, long-time listener. You guys are awesome. Thanks, Ronnie. Sorry.
Tell us about the Harbaugh family and growing up in Cleveland.
Yes, the mother is from Cleveland, outside of Cleveland. The father is. I just read an article on they both met at Bowling Green University, and they got married. So Harbaugh's got some heavy family ties to Ohio. There is. And I'm thinking that you never know. He may want to end his career somewhere. Back where it all started for his family.
Ron, I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that John Harbaugh goes to coach the Cleveland Browns. He came from one of the most well-liked, well-respected, and stable owners in the NFL, in Steve Bishotti, to go to one of the most unpredictable, brain-dead, and what word did you use? I don't know. I've used a lot of words. Dysfunctional, wackadoodles.
Whatever it is, he's not going to work for Jimmy Haslam in that same division. I mean, unless he felt like he had such a major axe to grind, like Brett Favre did when he had to get to the Minnesota Vikings and beat the Green Bay Packers, there's just no way he's going to go to that team. There's no axe to grind here. And let me tell you, he looks at that quarterback situation going...
I don't want that. I'm telling you, all these coaches, if you have your choice of a place to go, if everything's equal in terms of financial input on the roster and things, let's say all of that stuff is equal. Now you've got to look at the roster that you're inheriting because you want to have initial success. You want what Mike Vrabel has. You want what Ben Johnson has.
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Chapter 4: How do internal team dynamics influence coaching decisions?
Yeah, of course. It's a rhetorical question. Nick in Baltimore. What's going on, Nick? Hey, what's going on, guys? Big fan. Listen to you guys every single day. You've been very impressionable on my young radio career. And I actually do the Ravens game day halftime and post for the Baltimore Ravens. Oh, you're like the Jerry Recco of the Cowboys. Yeah. Hey, I'll take it.
Is that an Odyssey station? It is not, so I won't plug it too much for you guys. Okay. All right. That's all right. Well, you got inside information on John Hobart, so tell us about him. What do you think? Yeah, well, I was shocked that it happened.
I think the city of Baltimore and a lot of the fans have been frustrated with the past couple of seasons, but you just never know if Rashadi's going to make a move like that. I think he's a great fit for the Giants. He's stable. And, you know, he won't be intimidated by that New York media, not one bit. I think he'd be really good for Jackson Dart.
My only question is, if he decides not to coach this year, like he takes a Mike Grable route or a Sean Payton and takes a year off – You know, what's next for the Giants? Because I think the Ravens are by far the most attractive job right now.
Chapter 5: What is the significance of the Giants' coaching search?
And if they don't get Harbaugh, then I think what's next for them? What's to say if he doesn't want to come down to Baltimore? Oh, I think Stefanski would want to be here. I think if all things are equal, again, I'm just speculating just like you are, Nick. I mean, those are the two guys that the Giants should be targeting, and I think they're going to get one of them. I really do.
And then the other guy will have his choice of probably three of the other four jobs. Nick, who do you want the Ravens' next head coach to be? You know what? I'm tend to leaning on Brian Flores. Sounds like the Raiders are leaning on him, too, as well. Yeah, I mean, I love Brian Flores. I think he's definitely going to get a job this hiring cycle, which sucks for me. What about Rob Sala?
I don't know, man. I mean, I know that people really like... We look at Rob Sala as a guy who just didn't get it done here, but that's not how the league necessarily looks at him. I think they look at him as a great defensive coordinator who got caught up in a really crappy situation with a crappy owner and an Achilles injury with Aaron Rodgers and maybe deserves another chance. So I don't...
But their defense has been bad towards the end of the year, though. And I understand it's a million injuries. Well, they have so many injuries, man. Yeah. By the way, and Kyle Shanahan said this. He said, in order for us to go to the Super Bowl, we have to beat the Seattle Seahawks in Week 18. And they didn't do that. So now they have to go on the road.
And they do not have a great matchup this weekend. They just don't. Let's go to Phil. He's calling from Staten Island. What's up, Phil? Good morning, guys. Up. Boomer, especially, I got a question for you. Why is John Harbaugh the end-all, be-all? This guy hasn't done a thing in the last few years.
He's got quarterback drama going on, and he's not an offensive-minded coach.
What's your definition of not doing a thing?
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Chapter 6: Why might John Harbaugh be a good fit for the Giants?
Every year, he can never get over the hump.
So, obviously, he can't control the situation there.
Oh, boy. Yeah, Phil, your phone's crapping out, and thank God. You know, I mean, like, there's a reason why coaches get let go. There's a reason why franchises keep looking for new coaches. And the Giants are in a situation right now, I keep saying it, they are the Bears and the New England Patriots of last year. They are.
And they are going to be a very attractive team for any of these head coaches because they know they're starting out with a young... athletic, very astute quarterback. And they have Malik neighbors on this roster. They have two running backs that are coming back next year. They're going to have a solid offensive line. They've got to fix the defense.
The defense coordinator is going to be a big part of whatever happens here. But what the Giants need more than anything is the credibility that the Bears fans and the Patriots fans felt when they hired their coaches last year at this time. And this is what I'm talking about, a call like that where somebody's nitpicking John Harbaugh for the New York Giants.
When someone calls up, it actually says he's done nothing the last number of years. You know who's done nothing the last number of years? The Giants. They've done nothing the last number of years. And all these coaches that are available now, they're either going to be...
They're going to be retreads where they do have head coaching experience, or they're going to be young guys that are looking to make a break into the head coaching ranks, like a Clint Kubiak or somebody of that nature that, you know, isn't around, like Mike Kafka.
You know, and I'll tell you what, for Mike Kafka and his resume, I thought he handled himself really well as the interim coach here as the Giants. I thought he handled the press conferences well. I thought he handled Abdul Carter well. I thought... The last two games, Jackson Dart played better than he did, obviously, when they were playing Minnesota, whatever happened there, I don't know.
But the fact is that I thought that's a good resume builder for him, much like Dan Campbell had when he was the interim coach down in Miami. I mean, it really does blow my mind. Because you're talking about a missed field goal that would have put him back into the playoffs in another one division, even in all the crazy stuff that was going on this year.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Trevor Lawrence's recent bar incident?
Well, you know, listen, I was rubbing around his neck there a little bit, and we were talking Rangers. Maybe that's giving him the chubby. I don't know. He's like, maybe he's like a walking chubster. Wow. Okay. Anyhow, that was the Midday Show. In the afternoon, you got the live reaction to the John Harbaugh news from C-Mac. Let's go. That's the guy you want? That's the guy I want.
Go get Harbaugh. Come on. Stop showing me pictures of our ass. Stupid. John Harbaugh and the Baltimore Ravens are separating from one another.
Oh, they have to go get him. So it's mutual, obviously.
They have to go get him. So he was fired up, as you can imagine. He is now a free agent. That having been said, I was just glad to hear his voice. Yeah, you'll get a lot of his voice as we go forward.
He sounded like the main host there.
He did. Well, Craig was the one that broke the news to him, and then he did react. So that said, Kevin Stefanski in for the interview today. A couple more from Mugi and Glenn yesterday, and we'll be done with this. This was... On the topic of Justin Fields, signing him, how he played, thoughts?
Yeah, we had a clear vision for Justin, a good plan. Now, obviously, the season didn't go as planned. And that's for many reasons. There's not one person, player, coach, system of why we ended up with three games. But that's part of this week's process is of diving in and really reflecting on the season and the lessons learned moving forward.
Hmm. Okay, and here was Glenn, what he wants in his staff. We know we let go of Steve Wilks, got to find a defensive coordinator.
I want to make sure that, well, the guy that we do have in, that there's a lot of synergy between me and that coach. And I'm not saying that it wasn't synergy between me and Wilks. It's just I want to make sure as I go through this process that that's not a step that I don't miss.
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Chapter 8: How do recent coaching changes affect team performance in the NFL?
He was just picking who was on his mind. If you had to say right now, because of what happened this year in particular with the teams that made it to the playoffs, from where they were last year, teams that had lost 11 or more, 12 more games last year that now are all in the playoffs this year, Are the Giants going to be one of those teams next year? Oh, yeah.
Well, tell me who the coach is, and I'll give you an answer. John Harbaugh, yes. Stefanski, I think, yes. It's a defensive coordinator who's never coached before? No.