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Hour 3 - Harbaugh In Charge, Soto Talks Mets, MLB Work Stoppage Talk

16 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN. Hi, Boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS Sports Network. Coming to you live from the Bill Ford Tough Studio. 888-828-1019, the number to join the show. We'll get some calls in on the Red Pocket Mobile fan line brought to you by your new ultimate cell carrier, Red Pocket Mobile.

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There is nobody right now that is more untouchable and more looked at in a positive way than John Harbaugh with the New York Giants. This man can do no wrong. No matter what goes on up until this point, until they start playing football games, John Harbaugh is the guy. And everybody very, very excited to see what he's going to do with the New York Giants.

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So Ian O'Connor's been on this thing from the get-go with Chris Mara and John Harbaugh. And he was the guy that we would go to to get updates on this story. And he sat down with John Harbaugh and got a lot of interesting tidbits out of him. about this whole process and the coaching staff.

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And one of the things that was really interesting is the article starts out that, you know, John Mara really needed to process and take some time about this whole direct reporting to ownership thing.

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And the reason, and there's truth to the matter, that Harbaugh's agent was keeping the Titans involved in the conversations because they didn't know for a fact that John Mara was going to come back and say, okay. that he really was considering saying that we've done this a certain way, our entire organization, and we're not going to break that chain.

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So I give a lot of credit to John Mara for making different rules because this was that big of a hire. If this was another one of those coordinators who had never done it before, they would have kept it the same way. But this is what John Harbaugh wanted. He explained to John Mara what he wanted.

Chapter 2: What changes are happening with John Harbaugh and the New York Giants?

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And John Mara finally came back and said, that's it. You got a deal. Welcome to the New York Giants. Yeah, I kind of thought, you know, I remember saying to you, we had one of those reports where the contract wasn't a done deal yet.

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You know, we had kind of just assumed that John Harbaugh agreed to be the head coach of the Giants, and yet days were going by, and it was all about, you know, crossing the T's, dotting the I's, and yet here we were three, four, five days later. Well, why isn't he the head coach of the Giants yet? And I only saw excerpts of this article. I don't get The Athletic, but I saw excerpts of it.

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And, you know, like the way I took it was – There was a little bit of a sticking point and not that it was going to hold it up in terms of him leaving or going anywhere else. But if you're his representative, you had to make sure that if by chance ownership said no to this. You are going to be true to yourself, and this is the way I do things.

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My track record for the last 18 years speaks for itself. We win a lot of games. I'm going to come here and win a lot of games, but we're going to do it my way. And if you're going to say no, then perhaps I need to go somewhere else. So I do give them a lot of credit for going forward because he really does seem like the right guy for the job at the right time.

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But to me, all it does is prove that there were maybe some dicey conversations there at the end. Yeah, well, John Orba says he didn't know how that phone call was going to go. He said it was 50-50.

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When he was waiting for that phone call from John Mara, he thought there was just as good of a chance he was going to say, no, we're not doing this, as opposed to, yes, you're allowed to report directly to me. So that, I thought, was fascinating because I was with the belief that it was going to get done the entire time. I didn't think that it was a 50-50 in John Orba's mind up until that point.

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But I think that's the right thing to do. Here's what's going to be really interesting, though, is – finding out when this draft happens, what Joe Shane's real role is in this. Because... John Harbaugh is the undisputed man in that building. Joe Shane now works for John Harbaugh. And I don't care what anybody says about titles or this or that.

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Joe Shane now works for John Harbaugh and ownership. And when there's something going on and they went out of their way to give him everything they wanted and there's a disagreement on who they should draft, John Harbaugh is going to get the final say on it. Yes, correct. This feels more like Joe Shane is a director of player personnel now as opposed to a GM.

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I'm not saying he's not the general manager. Of course he is, but you're right. When the coach has more power than you do, and the question I would have for you would be, let's say the Giants hadn't been struggling for years, and this is a new GM in year two of, let's say, a five-year contract. I wonder if John Marris is yes to this. I think the position that Shane is in right now, having to –

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the recent coaching changes in the NFL?

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Okay. If you had a high-paying job that didn't start till 6, 7 o'clock in the morning, would you have the discipline to get up and do it then? And I'm not saying even 4 o'clock. Let's say 5 a.m. See, I think every job, it's hard. I know I don't want to do this thing where I'm not giving you a direct answer. So in short, yes, especially because you're getting paid $20 million a year.

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Your name is out there. Everything that you do is going to be remembered. And if you're in any way not giving every ounce of that into this job, then you're essentially a loser. But I don't think just because someone shows up earlier, like he's coming in at four and Brian Dable came in at six, that that means that he's getting more done.

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I still think there's a work smarter as opposed to work harder type of thing that people talk about. But it seems to me that that's almost like burnout territory. Overkill. When you're in at four and your day ends at eight.

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Chapter 4: How is Juan Soto adjusting to the Mets without Pete Alonso?

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705.491 - 705.851 Devin Williams

Yeah.

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That's like overkill. I agree. My point was, I don't know that he's getting into football stuff until six or seven o'clock in the morning. And I think he is having the discipline to take care of himself first. Oh, that's what I meant. And I think you would have, if you wanted to, you would have the same.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the looming MLB work stoppage?

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Cause we've all, all five of us have shown that we can get up in the middle of the night and do it. It's, you know, for him, like, why not? I mean, his day, these football coaches, they're out of their minds. I mean, this whole work, 6 a.m. to 8 p.m., doing what exactly? Yeah, film, scouting. How much film and how much? All right, that's fine. I'll grant you that. And why is there a staff of 60?

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Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, and how come everybody doesn't win? Right. Or, like, I'm sure Brian Callahan put his time in in Tennessee, yet they were a colossal failure on game day. Yeah, you know Evan's doing that where he's getting up early and going to the gym like it's 6 o'clock in the morning? Well, he's here by 7. I mean, that's not going to last.

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That's a hard thing to keep doing. Yeah, it is. But I think when you get into a rhythm and I think you get addicted to it. I mean, back in the day, you were addicted to the Peloton. Pretty good. You know, it's kind of like, what's that phrase? The hardest part of ending is starting again. Once you stop, it's hard to get going. Oh, no. See, I never was. See, I wouldn't say addicted to it.

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It was just one of those things that you felt like you had. Like, when people talk about the runner's high and that stuff, I never experienced any of that. Oh, see, I thought you did with the bike. I hated that. Oh, I thought you enjoyed it. I hate working out. I hated doing it when I was in good shape. I hated it. Climbing on that thing, I hated it.

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Even though you saw the difference in your body. You loved the results. You hate doing it. Wasn't it some COVID boredom also? There was that too, yeah. Absolutely. I'm sure there was. I guess I misremembered it. I thought after he got into it and was really seeing results, I thought you and your wife were fighting to get on the bike. No. I mean, it was just, I didn't want to do it. I just did it.

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Because I felt like it was the thing, the right thing to do. But never once was I like, they get off, they go, man, I feel great. I'm like, what the F? I'm like, this is horrible. Sweating. The bike tour. Yeah, which I did twice and I'll never do again. I'll raise money for it. I raise money for it every year. I'm not doing that again. That was another thing.

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I mean, I was happy when that was over. I was miserable. Oh, no, I get that. Miserable. That's one thing you can ask me every year. There's no chance I'm getting myself involved in that. Going up that Verrazano that year, that first year that I did it, with the cold and the wind and the rain on your face. It sounds lovely. I mean, once it was done, I had this tremendous sense of accomplishment.

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I did. And that's part of it. But the pain that went into it totally outweighed the sense of accomplishment. That's fair. And I get jealous of people like, oh, man, I go run for five miles and I get this runner's high. I feel horrible. I'm sore. I'm tired. I'm freaking. Look at this. Maybe you're like me. For me, running was punishment growing up. Running was.

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I just love when this guy blows right by me. He's got to be like at least 10 or 15 years older than me. There we go. See? Right by me. That's how slow I was going. I give you credit, though. You didn't stop and get off the bike. No, I did not. You kept going. You talk about that. We had to stop here. This is where we took a picture.

Chapter 6: How does Bryce Harper feel about the Phillies' management?

1554.891 - 1560.043 Anthony Edwards

But the old heads, as you put it, what does it mean to show them that the new guard has something a little bit too?

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1560.344 - 1569.442 Devin Williams

I mean, it means a lot. You know, those guys paved paved the way for us. You know what I'm saying? Braun, Steph, KD, Kawhi, all those guys. And all we're trying to do is repay it by giving them belt.

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Giving them belt. Giving them belt. Man. Belt to ass. Yeah. Yes, she was returned safely. Good. Three days later. Okay. That makes me feel better. Three suspects were arrested in connection with the crime. Okay. So there you go. So the Venezuelan police doing a hell of a lot better than the people out in Tucson right now. And Rick Peterson did not take part in helping return her safely.

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Part of the operation was led by former Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson, who said although he could find her in 10 minutes, it took three days. All right, while Edwards and company were given belt to the old heads, as he called it, here was LeBron afterwards once again, asked if this will be his final season in the NBA.

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1616.295 - 1626.033 LeBron James

Yeah, I mean, I want to live. When I know you guys will know. I don't know. I have no idea. I just want to live, that's all.

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Let the man live. Leave him alone. Can I live? Yeah, I think he's going to be done. That's my take.

1631.763 - 1632.364 Devin Williams

I think it's over for him.

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Yeah, not coming back for the tour? Yeah, I think the tour's been the tour. I mean, I think that everywhere he goes, it's been a tour for his entire career. I think he's done. Well, that's what I brought up to him on Friday, like the retirement. The gifts and the ceremonies and all that. That's what I mean. I know what you mean, but I just don't think he's going to do it. Fair enough.

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Let's go to a couple baseballs here. A little bit more from Juan Soto. He was asked about no longer having Pete Alonso for protection in the lineup. They've got the new look unit here and he was throwing some flowers to Bo Bichette.

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