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Chapter 1: Who was Frank Ramos and what is his legacy?
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You know, I know I got to mention this, unfortunately, for the Jet family. A longtime PR man, Frank Ramos, unfortunately, his life came to an end. I believe he was 89 years old. And he started... Way back when, he's been a part of the Jet organization for like 39 years. He was there when I was there.
He was always a gentleman, always made sure that the beat writers got what they needed, always made sure that I was available, would always ask one of his lieutenants, maybe it'd be Doug Miller or Frank himself, would come to me and say, okay, this is...
you know, what they're going to be asking you about and would really go out of his way to make sure that everybody got what they wanted, nobody was ever embarrassed, and everybody appreciated his professionalism. And interestingly, reading Rich Cimini's obit on ESPN.com this morning, You know, Roger Goodell got his start in the NFL as an intern under Frank Ramos as a PR person. Wow.
How about that? Think about that for a second. And obviously he's probably most notable because he was with Joe Namath when Joe Namath made the guarantee about beating the Colts in the Super Bowl. Wow. And Frank has seen it all. I think he worked for, what, five or six different owners of the Jets, 11 head coaches, five general managers. I mean, and he survived it all.
I mean, every aspect of Jet life and, of course, Woody Johnson basically says that the thing about Frank that he so admired was that he remembered everybody, everything. It's almost like he had a photographic memory. And he was an encyclopedia for the history of the Jets, good or bad. But unfortunately, his life came to an end, I believe, yesterday.
And Rich wrote a beautiful obit on him this morning. And I just wanted to make sure that his family heard from us. and gave our condolences to somebody that was a big part of my life when I was with the Jets.
And, Boomer, I was on quite a few trips with the Jets and worked the sidelines and all that. Do you remember he used to run all the time? He was a big jogger like Chernoff was.
Like Cherny, yeah.
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of the Jon Gruden rumors?
But again, that's where my idea of playing games in the continental United States where maybe a pro football team isn't located would be a nice idea.
I love that idea more so than the international stuff. Obviously, the money and growing the game and all those things, what the NFL cares about. But just from a selfish American fan standpoint, I would love that.
I mean, you don't have to do 16 of them. You can just do like five of them and do six or seven international games. The thing about the international games, those countries and those cities are paying the NFL to come and do those things. Yeah. The NFL is like, yeah, we're growing the game. Yeah, you're growing the game by growing more money.
These cities and London, England is spending money to bring these teams there and footing the bill, essentially.
And I remember at the time, the Jets didn't charge. I don't know if they do now. They didn't charge for preseason back then. So that was a Jet home game. So they really weren't giving up a gate. That was one of their Jet home preseason games.
Well, I mean, they're going to go to 18 games. We all know it. which is going to be crazy for the players, but the players will balk at it just simply because of all the injuries and all the extra work.
They'll get an extra bye week?
I would think start Labor Day, end on President's Day, have two bye weeks, 18 games. That's what I would think. It makes the most sense, especially with the ratings for Labor Day with college football. This past year was amazing. And speaking of ratings, I don't know if you saw the CBS rating for their 3 o'clock game. No. The 3 o'clock game was unbelievable.
So they had a 21.6 rating, 63 share, which means 46.5 million viewers for the 3 o'clock game, the Broncos and the Patriots. Wow. I think a lot of that probably had to do with some of the weather, everybody staying inside watching TV, assuming that they had electric.
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Chapter 3: How did Mike McCarthy's emotions impact his introduction as Steelers' head coach?
I can't speak for him. All I know is that he is one competitive son of a bitch. He is really competitive. So he is involved in this lawsuit, and he feels like it. I don't know if there's multiple lawsuits. I think there could be a lawsuit in the state of Nevada, and there also could be a federal lawsuit here because of the NFL. I'm not sure.
Knowing the guy that I think I know that is uber-competitive, Man, he'd love to win this lawsuit against the NFL. It may be the most important thing, meaning that bringing him back into the NFL would be a real stretch. As much as you and I would love to see it and would have loved to have seen it, I don't know.
I feel like unless there's some sort of agreement on that other side of things, who's the rebel owner right now in the NFL that would go and hire him?
Well, it couldn't be Mark Davis because that's where he was. He's a guy that you would think about it. I mean, you know, you hear David Tepper's a little bit crazy. But here's the thing. You talk about rebel owner. I mean, apparently the Jets, according to reports, offered him a job within the organization. So is Woody Johnson the rebel owner?
Chapter 4: What was the reaction to Bill Belichick missing the Hall of Fame?
Again, I don't know what that job was. I don't. I don't know if it was director of football operations. I have no idea what that job is.
But it's still back in the NFL.
NFL, regardless of what it is. And because it's reported doesn't mean it happened. I haven't heard that. But I was like you the first time we saw that yesterday. I was like, that's interesting. Yeah. But I don't know how accurate that is. I don't know if that's a back channel discussion.
And I know one thing, that it's not coming from the Jets unless it's coming from one of the guys that just got fired. You know, if one of the nine guys that just got fired got wind of something within the building, then that person could definitely be a leaking source.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's something that's getting made up by any stretch of the imagination, especially when you consider this was a... Zach Rosenblatt, who's an athletic guy, I don't think he's throwing stuff out there that doesn't exist. It's an odd one.
But if he really wanted to be a head coach, again, I think the only route for him would be to come back and be a part of an organization that is one of the premier organizations, whatever that may be. And also, working with a minority head coach would not be the worst thing either if he's trying to get some of the bad PR off of him. But I don't know.
I think maybe he's thinking, like, I want to win this lawsuit. I'll be happy to win the lawsuit. My coaching days are behind me, and I'm really enjoying this job that I have now. But I just can't imagine with... Hearing him talk, the way he still loves football, talking to the players that he'd be okay with never coaching again.
Here's the deal.
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Chapter 5: What does Joel Sherman think about the Yankees and their fans?
John Gruden has one active lawsuit against the NFL, according to Grock. I just Grocked it. No, you did. Yeah, I filed it back in 2021 in Nevada State Court shortly after resigning as head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders in October 2021. The suit stems from the public release of those emails that Gruden sent years earlier while at ESPN. that contained racist, misogynistic, and homophobic language.
Gruden alleges the NFL and Goodell conducted a malicious and orchestrated campaign to destroy his career and reputation by selectively leaking those emails during the league's investigation into the Washington commander's workplace issues while withholding similar content from others. Now, Gruden was not a part of the commanders.
He wasn't.
He was with ESPN. So they're claiming or he's claiming torturous interference with employment contract negligence, civil conspiracy. And it's seeking monetary damages related to the remaining value of the Raiders' contract, lost endorsements. It's not a criminal case or a separate defamation suit, though elements touch on reputational harm from the leaks.
Well, yeah, obviously. And this is a classic toothpaste tube genie bottle spot, right?
Can't do it. Right. And then it says in December 25, a Las Vegas district judge denied NFL motions to dismiss.
Hmm.
including there's a statute out there in Nevada. The NFL has continued appealing or filing motions.
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Chapter 6: Is Tom Brady facing a similar snub as Belichick?
Another appeal noted in January 2026 filings. The case remains ongoing with no trial date set yet and discovery phases potentially ahead. Yeah, so he's not coming back. And by the way. Right now he's not. Think about this hiring cycle. How many coaches we either stepped down or got fired? Ten. Yeah, no one interviewed him. And nobody interviewed Bill Belichick either.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Bill Belichick just got snubbed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. I guess you either play the game or you don't.
Yeah. I do think, though, that if John Gruden got an offer, he'd want to do it. I don't think that he'd wait for the lawsuit to be. He just loves football so much. If someone's like, John, we really want you to come in here and do this. I can't imagine him saying, let me wait to see if I win this lawsuit first.
So also in this final Grok statement, recent discussions including on X note Gruden's reluctance to pursue coaching roles while the suit is unresolved and it could impact potential settlements or damages. That makes sense. Ton of fence. I mean, but those are discussions that other people are having. That doesn't mean that, you know, I know exactly what John Gruden's thinking.
And Aaron Glenn, he's the maverick who reached out to John Gruden potentially trying to get him back in the league.
Tim in New Jersey, what's going on, Tim? Hey, guys, good morning. So all these NFL personnel that get fired or have all this information, do they all have Adam Schefter's number or all these NFL insiders' numbers? Or how are these guys getting the information?
I'll tell you, there's a thing called the NFL Blue Book. And the Blue Book contains all the numbers of all the coaches, all the owners, all the general managers, all the trainers. It basically, you know, it's a manual on how to contact somebody. within an NFL team.
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Chapter 7: How does the NFL's PR strategy impact its coaches and players?
Yeah, I was like, why are you on the phone so much, man? You know, chill out.
Hit the shot. Something about insurance or something.
Yeah, a lot of insurance. I did hear from that man yesterday, by the way. How's he doing? He's doing great. He wants to set up a simulator day with us. I'm not doing that. Why not?
I'm not good at simulators.
I'm not good at simulators either, but you get some swings in, man. You got your trip coming up. Yeah. You're going to go. It's not going to snow. It's not going to melt. You're going to go straight from not swinging down to your trip.
I don't know. I just got to stretch it out a little bit. You know, maybe do some Pilates or something.
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Chapter 8: What are the challenges and politics behind Hall of Fame selections?
Now, he had guys working for him, but he was the guys that would trade like Ty Law or Richard Seymour right in the middle of their career. And overcome those losses and recognized when to trade guys and get assets back. And how many players did he develop?
Now, obviously, Tom Brady was the most important one, but how many players did he develop that went on to have Pro Bowl careers and winning Super Bowls? I mean, think about all those great teams he had and the teams that lost Super Bowls.
Yeah, I said it earlier. This could actually be one of the best things that ever happened to Bill Belichick's ego because everybody today is going over how great he is and defending him and people that really matter. Piers, guys like you who have played in the league, won an MVP. Patrick Mahomes, who's won multiple Super Bowls, commenting on it.
If he made the Hall of Fame, Patrick Mahomes would have tweeted out yesterday, congratulations, Coach Belichick, if you made the Hall of Fame. No. The fact that he didn't make it
He goes, this is absurd insanity. If you ask like Phil Sims or Chris Collinsworth, I'm sure Troy Aikman would agree with this too. When they sit down before games and they get information from the coach, if you didn't know what you were talking about, if you didn't know who the player was or what the situation was around a certain player or situation, he wouldn't give you the time of day.
He'd feel like you're disrespecting him, disrespecting the game because you didn't do your homework. And I remember interviewing him a few times for Westwood 1 going into these Super Bowls and just, man, just making sure that I had all the right questions, asked him all the right things because I wanted answers from him because he would give you answers if you asked the right questions. Mm-hmm.
He didn't want the fluff and all that other crap. He didn't want any of that stuff. He wanted real football questions. And I just think about not only as an assistant coach, as a defensive coordinator, as a head coach in Cleveland, as a head coach in New England, a defensive coordinator for the Jets, for God's sake, when they went to the AFC championship game.
The guy has been nothing but successful in the NFL at everything that he has touched.
meantime in pittsburgh mike mccarthy was introduced as their new head coach and i would like to thank you uh greg and of course and craig texted me too so you guys put me onto this press conference yeah i didn't realize how it started i mean this guy so these are his first comments after taking over as head coach all right here we go um thank you or i think um i thought at least be able to get started um
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