Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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The latest is that Chris Mara had an in-person meeting and a lunch with John Harbaugh, so we'll keep an eye on that. Obviously, a lot of other teams. in the mix as well. And you had the Texans just beating the brakes off the Steelers last night, pulling away late 32-6. A couple of things, though, in the NFL I wanted to bring up that's a little bit off the beaten path or off the field.
And one of these is what the Seattle Seahawks are saying to season ticket holders that are putting their tickets up on the secondary market. Hmm. So they sent out a warning that said, we are seeing that you are reselling these tickets. And if you do resell these tickets, it could impact future sales to you of season tickets. Now, you would think...
Just on the basis of this, when you hear that, you're like, well, wait a second. I bought these tickets. Now I could do whatever I want with these tickets. Isn't that the way the world works?
However, the Seattle Seahawks had an agreement with every season ticket holder that they had to sign that said, if we see that you are reselling your tickets more than you are using your tickets, we have the right to not offer you tickets in the future. And everybody had to sign that. Yeah, well, they're protecting their business. Yeah, right. But I mean, how do you... And I guess...
I guess this is one way to control it, but if you are a season ticket holder who, let's say, sells two of your games, and that can pay for the rest of those games, and you go to six of the games, you don't go to two of them. All right, so let me ask you a question. I understand.
I understand exactly what you're saying, because even Evan has talked about this, where he'll sell his tickets to Nick Games because he has those tickets at Nick's Games, and he basically... I think some of his MET tickets as well, and it helps him offset the cost, which I think as long as it's legal, it's a smart thing for you to do.
The thing that really bothers me about this whole situation about the secondary tickets is how many teams are holding back tickets and then releasing them on the secondary market. And then letting the market speak for itself. Oh, if that's going on. Oh, you got to believe that that's going on. You got to believe that's going on.
And maybe I'm a little bit too cynical, but I believe that that's definitely happening. It has to be happening. Well, I mean, that would be bold, though.
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Chapter 2: What controversy is surrounding Seahawks season tickets?
So now, all of a sudden, here they are with the number one seed and a very good opportunity to go to the Super Bowl. And hopefully they'll have two home games in the eyes of the season ticket holders. Sure. And if these tickets are going for five times or ten times face value... It's like buying a stock while you could sell it.
Yeah, so what I don't want to see is the Seattle Seahawks season ticket holder that is loyal. He's been there. She's been there. Whatever. It's been in the family. And they went to six games. They sold two games. And now they have an opportunity where it's like, man, we could pay for next year's season tickets or most of it by selling this one game.
And then all of a sudden the Seahawks go, well, you can't buy season tickets any longer. Well, I am a fan. I am loyal. I just... This is an opportunity for me to make some money. If you remember, Jets and Giants had to sign PSLs. I wonder if that's going on in Buffalo. I don't know. I have not heard that yet. I bet you it is. Personal seat licenses, another way to get you.
Now, also, no one is forcing you to buy these tickets. You don't have to buy the tickets. True. And also, there's an agreement that you sign that says you can be impacted down the road, so you're aware of that. So the Seahawks, I think, are covering themselves from every angle. It just, at first, blush feels like, well, I mean, what are you, some sort of anti-capitalist?
Let me ask, well, in Seattle, maybe. Let me ask you this question. Yeah. Let's say the Jets did this. Let's say the Mets did this. Maybe they have, maybe they haven't.
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Chapter 3: How are NFL teams reacting to ticket reselling?
I don't know. But let's say they did do that.
Okay.
How would it be met around here? That's a really good question because I don't have an answer for you right away as I'm thinking about it. I mean, I think that Generally, what happens here is when a team is really good, these season ticket holders, they go to the games. I don't think they're selling a ton of them. How many tickets do you think Evans sold for the Knicks playoff runs last year?
But he's not a Knicks fan.
That's different.
He bought those to make money. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah. I mean, that's what they're trying to stop in Seattle. He probably sold all of them. I would think. Yeah, you'd have to ask him, but it's basically an investment in a team is what it is. Yeah, Evan, in a way, he bought those Knicks tickets to make money and to occasionally go to a game because he likes basketball.
But that's really why he bought them, is to make money. And I guess there is a software that can follow this on the secondary market, which is probably what the Seattle Seahawks have. Yeah, I'm sure every NFL team or professional team has it right now. Let's go to Bob in Chatham. What's going on, Bob? Well, we're in Geo. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Bob. What's up, man?
Listen, I am a PSL 15-year holder, Jets season ticket owner. And not only would I welcome the Jets to tell me that I couldn't buy any more tickets if I sold them on the secondary market, if I could sell them on the secondary market, that would be a big plus because you can't because it's brutal. The team is brutal. The ownership is brutal.
I've been trying to sell my PSLs at a 40% discount online just to get out. There's no bid. No one wants them.
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Chapter 4: What implications does ticket resale have for fans?
Instead, I got to pay $6,000 a year because I can't sell my PSL and I don't want to take a $30,000 loss.
So I'm in this spiral of Jets help. They stink. The owner says terrible. And I have worthless tickets. And my wife thinks I'm the worst person for ever making this purchase in my life.
Yeah, and Bob, I don't want to make it sound like hyperbole, but that deal with the PSLs and the Jets might be the worst deal for a fan. Well, the Giants did it too. Yeah, but the Giants delivered two championships, and the Jets have been miserable. So the Jet fan paying for a PSL at MetLife Stadium was one of the NFL's biggest dumps.
And to have the losing that's there and have 15 – that could be one of the worst deals for a fan in sports, if not the worst deal. I think it probably – it's got to be the worst deal. Yeah, I'm sure that there are other deals like that around the league because the league basically shares all the economic data with all the owners.
And one owner is going to want to know what did you do when you built this stadium and how did you offset some of the costs? They share all of that, and I'm sure there is an economic blueprint that the NFL furnishes these teams and says, this is what we want. This is what you need from your local politicians.
This is how you've got to get the infrastructure support that is needed to be able to build a big stadium like this. You've got to get all the permits and everything else. I mean, you know how this goes. Yeah. Somebody's pockets get lined somewhere. I mean, what are we, idiots? No, we're not idiots.
And I just think that when you factor everything in, ugly stadium, terrible franchise, the cost of being in this market and how expensive everything is, and the PSL on top of it, you're not going to be able to find a worse deal in professional sports than that. Don't forget the parking passes. Oh, yeah, that too.
While we're taking calls, good time to tell you that the Red Pocket Mobile fan line is brought to you by your new ultimate cell carrier, Red Pocket Mobile. Let's go to Jim in Spotswood, New Jersey. What's going on, Jim? Hey, what's up, guys? Gio, this is going to hit a little near and dear to your heart, being that you were in Pittsburgh for a little while.
But the lowly Pittsburgh Pirates, I had a five-game ticket plan. I'm a Yankee fan, so when the Yankees were playing out there, I bought a five-game plan. three for the Yankees and two other games. And I get a call from somebody at the Pirates telling me, are you really going to use these tickets? Like worried about selling them on the secondary market.
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