Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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And he's got just about as good a shot as any at this point. Especially if Josh Allen wants him. Yeah. I mean, they can't be messing around. I mean... You know, like I told you, I went through this right at this moment in my career that he's getting ready to go through this, a coaching change. Josh Allen. Yes, Josh Allen.
And I have to say that there is nothing more unsettling for a player than having somebody take over that doesn't really know who you are, doesn't know what you like to do, and then they have to relearn who you are. And he is the best football player in the league right now. I mean, everything he does at quarterback makes everybody around him better.
That's why they're able to go into games and win games with a less than stellar roster. So I would be very, very sensitive to getting it right simply to make sure the best guy that we have is going to be able to continue to do the things that he has done for us. Yeah, I mean, this has got to be a highly coveted job, as we know, because of Josh Allen in his prime.
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Chapter 2: Why did the Bills request an interview with Brian Daboll?
I don't know, though, if there's anybody other than Bill Belichick who is not coaching in the NFL right now that would jump to go and take this job, especially this late in the game. Now, Marcus Freeman is someone who would be brand new to the NFL, but he has talked many times about... staying. We know that Kurt Cignetti is not going to go anywhere.
I'm just trying to think, other than Brian Dable and Mike McCarthy, who are two guys who have had jobs before, I'm not sure who this is going to be. Unless they elevate Joe Brady, hire Brian Dable... They cannot go with a first-time coordinator. I mean, it's probably going to end up being Brian D'Abel. I mean, it really is. Which would be fine. I mean, I don't have any problem with that.
What does a Bills fan say about that? We understand that, and we both really like Brian, and things just didn't work out here and the injuries and everything else. But, you know, much like Rob Sala has said, he'll learn. He'll learn from this experience. The one thing he knows going in is that he's going to have a shot to win every single game because of that quarterback.
And he and that quarterback have a great relationship.
Yeah.
So, again, I go back to what is going to make the quarterback happy in this situation.
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Chapter 3: How does Josh Allen's role influence the Bills' coaching decision?
I mean, if you told me, and this would never, I don't think it would ever happen, but if you told me the Chiefs fired Andy Reid, they better bring Patrick Mahomes in and say, who do you want? Yeah. And I also think that, you know, they're getting rid of Matt Nagy and bringing back Eric Biannimi. So if they're bringing back Eric Biannimi, that means Patrick Mahomes wants him back.
So does that, is Matt Nagy seriously gone there? Did they fire him? They hired Eric Biannimi as the offensive coordinator, didn't they?
they brought yeah or is it was there another title that he no i think he got i think he got the offensive coordinator title i think maybe matt nagy is going to be up for one of these other jobs and maybe they do believe that he's leaving there yeah uh yeah matt nagy officially out yeah so you know that like so andy reese has got to say to patrick holmes hey patrick you know uh
But let's bring back Eric Biannimi. How do you feel about that? What do you think? Yeah, of course. Patrick goes, I'm all about that. Whatever. Yeah, so, yeah, I think that this is what's going on in Buffalo now. You've got to sit ā Brandon Bean better ask Josh Allen, either personally or through his agent, what he wants because he is that team.
All right, so if you think about it that way, I mean, how many guys ā You want to talk about player empowerment. I would say the same thing about Lamar Jackson down in Baltimore. You better get the right guy to be able to love Lamar Jackson the way that John Harbaugh did.
This is hard for us to say because we're not up there in Buffalo and we don't have personal relationships with Josh Allen, but who else could be linked to Josh Allen that Josh Allen would be okay with outside of the guys that he's worked with already? I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? It has to be somebody that's being requested by the Bills. So we'll see who else they request to talk to.
Well, Lou Anarumo is one of them. I mean... And by the way, that's not going to be an easy job for that coach to step into. Of course not. That's why, like, if I'm Lou Anarumo and I want to be a head coach and I have a chance to be the head coach of a team that has Josh Allen and my job really to come here is to fix the defense...
And get the defense to be a top 10 defense while I leave Joe Brady in the offensive coordinator seat and let him handle the offense. If you're a Lou Adarumo, do you really want to do that?
No.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of hiring a new coach for Josh Allen?
When you're looking at Drake May in his second year and Bo Nix in his second year and C.J. Stroud who was stunk and all of these conversations that everybody had. here and every other sports show in America that this has to be the year that Josh Allen makes it, and then he didn't, someone had to pay the price.
And I think the wrong guy did.
But this may be the worst team he's had over the last five years. Agreed. Agreed, which I think was unfair to Sean McDermott. Which is even more amazing as to how good Josh Allen is as a player. Right, and even more amazing that Brandon Bean got a promotion. Crazy. Let's go to Sean in Avenel, New Jersey. What's going on, Sean? Hey, guys. How are you? Good, Sean. What's up?
All right. So first time caller, extremely long time listener. I'm a huge, huge Bills fan. And it's it's either it's got to be either David or Joe Brady. There's no other choice. They both know Josh Allen. They need to keep him happy. And right now he's pretty much the whole team. So I don't think there's a choice that is going to work besides Stable or Brady.
Have you heard anything from Josh Allen in regards to the firing of Sean McDermott?
Me personally, no.
No, I'm saying you're a fan of the team, so I'm assuming that you follow closely on social media, you hear the players talk, you read everything about your team, which most fans do. Have you heard anything from Josh Allen in regards to the firing of Sean McDermott?
No, I just think it probably just got stale.
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Chapter 5: Who are the potential candidates for the Bills' head coach position?
Obviously, like in Baltimore with Harbaugh, But I think more likely it's a win-now situation where, you know, you're in Josh Allen's prime right now, and he's made to win, but obviously with, you know, lack of wide receivers. Yeah, it's not the coach's fault.
That's the general manager's fault. And I will say this, you know, we're going through this with the Knicks right now. We had a coach. We all love the coach. We wanted to give this coach a chance. Remember at the beginning of the year, let's give him a chance. Yeah. Let's give him a chance. Maybe they know something that we don't know or something else went on behind the scenes.
Maybe the players complained that they played too much. I don't know. Let's see what this new coach and this newfangled way of playing offense and hoisting threes up and not playing defense is going to lead to. And right now they've lost 9 out of 11. They've had a players-only meeting, and it's a god-awful mess it looks like. Can they turn it around? with this roster? That's the biggest question.
You've got to be careful. You know, Sean McDermott, like a head coach of Sean McDermott's stature and respect in the community and respect when he stands up in front of the team. And maybe the message gets stale. I know that happens. But, my God, all the winning he's done. He's the second winningest coach in Bill's history behind Marv Levy, the great Marv Levy.
And Marv Levy never won a Super Bowl. And he won the four of them. Yeah, I mean, I think that the Bills organization, the Pagoulas, and Brandon Bean are probably saying, even though we don't agree with this, that Sean McDermott won because he was the jockey to Josh Allen. That's what they're probably saying. I'm not telling you that. I know, I know, I know.
But I'm just saying, like, I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying five weeks ago, six weeks ago, reported a meeting between the owner, the GM, and the coach. Let's sit down in an office and let's talk about where we are as a team, where are we headed, what's going on, what's missing, what do we need to do?
And, you know, do we really want to be brutally honest and really let everybody know what we really think? Yeah. And, yeah, go ahead. I'm the owner. Go ahead. Give me all the truth bombs. Sure. Let me know what's going on here. And then maybe he notices. that there's a little bit of tension between the GM and the coach. Because the coach is like, you know, we've got to get different guys in here.
We need this. We need that. You know, Josh is Superman, and maybe he gives us a chance, but we're not totally there yet with the roster we have. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. So that's a meeting where those three people are sitting in the office, and, you know, the GM hears this. Now let's go scurry for our own jobs. Yeah. Cover your ass. Brian in Northport. What's going on, Brian?
Hey, what's up, guys? What do you got, man? So, I agree with, you know, that Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes should have a say when they are the team about who might be the next coach. But do they or should they have a say in the firing of the coach? Like, did Josh Allen, was he privy to the info that what's his name, the head coach is getting fired? Yeah, it's a really good question.
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Chapter 6: What are Joe Schoen's playoff expectations for the Bills?
I mean, it worked with Ben Johnson. He was never a head coach. But that's a different story. That's Caleb Williams. That's a second-year player. I mean, here's the thing. I just want to ask you, Tom. Tom, let me just ask you this. Has Josh said anything in regards to the firing of Sean McDermott?
I don't think he's made any public statements regarding it other than, you know, maybe a quick little, you know, really light statement about, you know, how he appreciates Coach McDermott and the time he spent.
But you see all these other players are out there talking about how great Sean McDermott was. Did you like him as a coach or no? Do you want him to remain?
I loved him as a coach. I don't think he should have been fired. I think Bean should have been the one to get fired, honestly.
That's my opinion. And also, one other thing, too, for all the people that say that Coach McDermott was just a product of Josh Allen, he ended the drought with Tyrod Taylor, not with Josh Allen. Everybody needs to keep that in mind. He took the Buffalo Bills to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor before Josh Allen was even in the picture.
Yeah, good point, Tom.
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Chapter 7: How do fans feel about the Bills' coaching changes?
And that was with the previous GM's roster, pretty much, before Brandon Bean got there. That's right. Because that draft that first year was with the previous GM. I forget who that guy's name was. And then after that draft, kind of like Joe Douglas and Mike McKagnon, that's what the Bills did. And they did that because that's who Sean McDermott wanted. He came from Carolina. Yeah.
Yeah, I know that's a diehard Bills fan, and he wants Clint Kubiak. We have seen how a lot of these guys are learning on the job in their first year. David Shule was my coach, and now he was our wide receiver coach. He's a young guy. And that was his first head coaching job. And he inherited a 32-year-old quarterback who was probably a pain in the ass to coach at the time.
Because I didn't trust anything at that point. At that point, they're firing my head coach. My offense coordinator was the head coach for the Jets. And, you know, we were not very active in Plan B free agency at the time. And we were losing a lot of players. And it really, it was not a great situation. It's the Boomer and Geo podcast from WFAN.
All right, Boomer and Geo on the fan and CBS Sports Network. We do have... Cee-Lo back. He's got an update moment of the day, but I want to get to Taylor and Dallas before we do that. And it's a picture of Pat Hanlon and Rex Ryan.
Which is funny because yesterday when Evan Tiki and Sean suggested Rex Ryan as the defensive coordinator, there was some conversation and Tiki said it would be Pat Hanlon's worst nightmare. It was interesting because they came to our softball game at Yankee Stadium that we did for the NYPD when we lost those officers. And there they are standing there and arms around each other like good friends.
I mean, in that setting, sure. But day-to-day with the media, a little different story. Is that a chode spot? Oh, boy. No. For which guy? Rex, no. It's not. It isn't. Big, tall man, little, tiny chode? Yeah. That's not. Taylor in Dallas. What's going on, Taylor? Hey, good morning, fellas. How are you? Good, Taylor. What's up?
So, I moved to Dallas last year from New York City, so I'm no stranger to poorly run cities. I was in...
san francisco for a conference last week the place is a dump outside the hotel i see one of the first things i see a homeless guy wearing a red boomer sized in foundation jacket and i it was the most perfect thing i had ever seen what's up i don't want to make light of anything was it a homeless guy that was wearing it or somebody at the conference i think gunner was at that same conference you were at
Yeah, so Gunnar knows everyone there is wearing quarter zips and vests by the conference. This guy was sitting near a pigeon, so I don't think he was part of the conference. And he was wearing a BEF jacket. Yeah, it was red. It had a sponsor on the sleeve. I couldn't see it. I'm like, I'll go to the office back there. We went all lengths just to get our name out there.
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