Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Yesterday, some John Heyman stuff out there that I know you love. Could be... might be on the way to seems like, all that stuff. But the Mets, David Stearns and Steve Cohen, apparently are offering Kyle Tucker, the top available free agent left in this class. What about Bellinger? I think Kyle Tucker still is looked at as... A little bit better? Yeah. Younger, too, I think.
So $50 million a year on a shorter-term contract. So what's going on is apparently... How long is the contract? What's that?
How long is the contract? Is it three years?
I think it would probably be no more than four. That's what I would think. But we don't know. It was just $50 million a year on a shorter-term contract. So the three teams that are left in the Kyle Tucker negotiations apparently are the Dodgers, the Mets, and the Blue Jays. And everybody goes to the Dodgers. We know that. They're always a threat.
The Mets don't want to be locked in for years and years and years with Kyle Tucker, so they're figuring we'll pay him a whole bunch of money and then keep the length down of the contract. And I guess the Blue Jays, after hearing the Met offer, are now going to longer term for Kyle Tucker. So now this gives you a little bit of insight into what the Mets plan is.
But what's interesting to me is it's almost as if Never was Kyle Tucker really discussed for the New York Mets until you had the Met fan base freaking out. Alonzo obviously signs elsewhere, but they were planning for that because they didn't really even try to keep him. But was this an original part of the David Stearns plan?
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Chapter 2: What are the Mets' current plans regarding Kyle Tucker?
to go out and sign Kyle Tucker, or is the fact that he's still out there, there's only a couple of teams that are involved, and the fan base is losing their mind and their season tickets being canceled all over the place because the Met fans' favorite players are going to be playing elsewhere next year, and Steve Cohen's like, hey, man, I'm getting killed here. Kyle Tucker's still out there.
Why don't we go and try to get him? You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm asking? No, I know what you're asking. That could be part of the issue here, the pressure from the outside noise, from the business side, from the season ticket selling side. Yeah, I can see all of that. And then, you know, obviously I saw David Stearns yesterday talking about, you know, how impressed he is with the youth in the minor leagues for the Mets. Oh, yeah.
And that, you know, especially in the pitching department. I saw that, and look, he wants to build the team a certain way.
Chapter 3: How does Kyle Tucker compare to other free agents like Bellinger?
This is what he did in Milwaukee, and I know that it's easy to just go out and spend money on players. The thing that's really going to be interesting, if they do end up signing Kyle Tucker, is what will his production be compared to what Pete Alonzo, because that's what we're all going to be looking at. We're going to be looking at the production for the three players that they just jettisoned.
I'll tell you what I'll be looking at. I'll be looking at wins and losses. That's the only thing I'm looking at because the last season that ā so Pete Alonzo had a very good season last year. They were terrible, collapsed, didn't make the playoffs, one of the more embarrassing finishes for a Mets team, and there's been a lot of them.
The year prior, Pete Alonzo, up until that home run in Milwaukee, which was huge and kept everything going, was terrible. You had a terrible year that previous year. Well, run prevention. Run prevention. You got to keep saying that to yourself. So when we talk about Pete Alonzo's production and this and that, like, okay, fine.
Chapter 4: What is the potential contract length and value for Kyle Tucker?
But they were better when Pete Alonzo was worse. So, I mean, I don't care where it comes from. What I care about is are they going to be a better baseball team? And every time the Mets do something, they've got to compare it to Pete Alonzo, the fans. I swear the fans would rather lose with their own guys than win with someone else's.
That's what it feels like. Well, I think the GM recognizes that that was not a winning core of players, that there was something going on in that locker room. There was something going on with Nimmo and McNeil and Lindor and Soto. Again, it reminds me of the Rangers. Yeah, like something's going on.
Whether it's fragility or people genuinely dislike each other, whether it be because of politics or religion or whatever else, David Stearns recognized that he had an issue in that locker room. And he is trying to take care of that issue the best way he can.
And the best way he can is by letting Pete Alonzo walk, trading Nimmo and McNeil, eating part of the contract, and then now trying to bring in players that are going to be professional that may actually be able to get along with the players that are here on long-term contracts.
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Chapter 5: What teams are competing for Kyle Tucker's signing?
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I mean, what is going on with this rotation? Is he really just leaning on the younger guys?
Eventually, these younger guys are going to have to be leaned on.
Well, yeah, but I talked about having a guy like Frambois Valdez, a veteran that you can count on at the top of the rotation that's going to eat innings and you can trust, putting that guy to anchor this group. And they've done nothing to try to find that. And last year, their biggest problem was what? Starting pitching.
Yeah, and they've done nothing to address it. Well, I think that they think that they have a young group of pitchers that are going to be a big part of this thing moving forward. And they'll end up signing somebody or a couple guys, probably retreads, trying to get guys that can come in and give you some innings.
I mean, because we know that there's going to be eight or nine starters during the year. We know that.
Yeah.
So, you know, this whole thing with this Kyle Tucker thing, I don't know if it's like the Yankees were going after Juan Soto and throwing the $700 million number out there, and the Mets ended up giving him $765 million in a suite, and that allowed the Yankees to kind of back out and say, well, we don't give suites out to players. Right. Okay, so we tried, but we really didn't try.
You know, that's, I mean, it makes me feel like that's what they're doing with Kyle Tucker. Like, they're trying to show you. And now, and by the way, it's leaked out.
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Chapter 6: Was Kyle Tucker always part of the Mets' original strategy?
Well, if it's $50 million a year, it's $200 million.
Is it totally 50 or is it a little bit under that?
Well, it says 50.
The report was 50. That's John Heyman's report.
Yeah.
Could be 50.
Yeah.
It may not be 50.
And when John was reached for comment, he said, Courtney, believe that it was $50 million a year for Kyle Tucker.
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Chapter 7: How does fan pressure influence the Mets' decisions?
Right. And then if they do get him, it's going to, I mean, if they don't get him, it's going to be Steve Cohen's richest owner ever. Couldn't even beat the Blue Jays out. They're not even in America. My ass, all he wants to do is build a casino.
He doesn't care about the Mets. I mean, it's just lose-lose. So here's the thing. If you're Kyle Tucker, where do you want to go? That's the question.
Hey, Dodgers.
Where does everybody want to go? Do you want to go into this quagmire that is the Mets right now as we sit here? No, I don't. Don't you want to go where you think you can win? I mean, you know, that's why. You can win here. Yeah, but not under the current set of circumstances.
I don't know about that. No, you could win here. There's just the Dodgers you know you're going to win. Here, you're not so sure. But you can. I mean, I think everybody wants to go out, warm weather, going to win a championship, buy a house in Beverly Hills.
For what? What do you mean for what? Because that's where you live. Yeah, until it burns down. What do you mean it burns down? Who's burning it down?
They lost like 7,000 homes out there.
In Beverly Hills?
No, but right next to it, Palisades. All right. Well, I mean, geez. No, I'm just ā all I'm saying is that I can understand why you would want to go to play for the Dodgers 100%, but I also know if you're using the Mets as leverage, maybe this is what this is all about. Maybe they're using the Mets as leverage publicly at Kyle Tucker's camp.
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