Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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You would think maybe somebody could resign like at 6.30 in the morning, please? Yeah. That would help so we could actually react in real time as opposed to hearing everybody already give their reactions.
We did get the LeFleur trying to stay news. Yes.
wasn't like an official that's the case and hopefully he is going to stay you know um just to be really totally clear he he was not fired he stepped down so that means there is time left on his contract which means that the pittsburgh steelers still do own his rights and within the nfl if he wants to go back and coach there has to be compensation not financial compensation it's usually some sort of uh you know draft choices or something kind of like sean payton
and the Denver Broncos. So the way that situation unfolded for Denver. So, again, he was not fired. The Roonies were not going to fire him. I think he probably got sick and tired and heard the fans, heard the boos, and probably heard the criticism over the last couple years and is probably exhausted by it. He is a human being, after all.
Yeah, I mean, when you're standing there and it's another playoff loss and you're hearing these fans that have cheered you for so many years saying, fire Tomlin and it's 30-6 and things have gotten out of control and you're thinking, alright, I've got a 42-year-old quarterback and I don't know what the hell is going to happen next year at that position. Yeah, it was time.
I mean, sometimes those big decisions make themselves.
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Chapter 2: What led to Mike Tomlin's decision to step down?
And for Mike Tomlin, it made itself with that loss to the Houston Texans.
So the amazing thing about what happened in Baltimore and Pittsburgh is the fact that where there was smoke, there was fire. That both of these coaches were being talked about prior to their last game of the season that was going to determine who was going into the playoffs, that the loser was probably going to lose his job. And...
It turned out that both guys lose their job, and also there were reports that Mike Tomlin was thinking about possibly going into TV, and I'm sure he would be a target for any of the networks that would want to have a personality of his reputation and his background and his resume. They would love to hire a guy like Mike Tomlin. The question is, where do you put him?
Do you put him in a pregame show, which I think would be a waste, or do you put him on a game? And if you put him on a game, who are you going to pair him with? And, you know, everybody thinks doing games are easy. And I'm sure Mike could do a great job of breaking down the game.
And I think if as long as you are Mike Tomlin in the booth, if he could just let it go and just be himself, I think it'd be great. But the question is, you know, you got to pair them with the right guy. It's got to be the right network. It's got to be to me. It's got to be a national stage. It can't be the third pairing.
You know, so when you think of the networks, they all have their number one and number two guys, right? And you're not going to be putting Mike Tomlin, I don't think you're going to be putting him in the number one booth with either Tom Brady, Chris Collinsworth, or Tony Romo.
No, and it seems like it's Fox. And Jay Glazer's got a lot of great relationships in the NFL, but him and Mike Tomlin have been close for a very long time. And that's why I think the Fox thing and that connection is probably going to happen. But that one seems like the least... They have eight guys in a pregame show? Yeah, I know. And you think about it.
So, you know, Matt Ryan just left, but then you got Cowher and Tomlin there, and I don't think Bill's going anywhere. You know, you hear about Tony Romo and the issues that he's having, and you think that would be a nice little thing if Mike Tomlin was a natural and they tested him out and then throw him in there with Jim Nansen. Boom, the NFL's going to love that, by the way.
And, you know, it's always trying to get the rights and keeping the NFL happy. Everybody's got to calm down. Tony Romo's not going anywhere.
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Chapter 3: How does Mike Tomlin's departure impact the Steelers' future?
I think it was like 10 years, I think. I think it was 10 years, $170 million.
Well, I know it was $17 million a year. But, yeah, so I don't know the perfect landing spot. I'll give you another one, but it's not Fox, and everybody keeps saying Fox, Fox, Fox. Get Kirk Herbstreet out of Amazon and get a real NFL guy in there.
All right, so that would be a spot. I'm not saying that Kirk should be replaced or anything. I'm just saying. He does a great job with college. And he does a lot of college.
Right. I'm not saying taking him off of that. He does a great job. He's one of the best college analysts there are. Doesn't work on Amazon NFL.
All right. But what I'm saying is that that's the place where you'd want him. You'd want him somewhere where he is the star of the night. You know what I mean?
Like, he's got to be ā he can't be on a panel with 14 guys and, you know, he has three or four, you know, comments in a pregame show, two comments at halftime, and one comment postgame, and then they go to whatever they're showing next to Masked Singer. I mean, whatever it is. So, you know ā Tomlin's got star power, and TV loves star power, and star power has to be the lead person.
That's why Tom Brady is there. That's why Tony Romo's there. That's why Chris Collinsworth has lasted so long. Good luck trying to find those replacements, but finding the right spot for Mike Tomlin if he wants to do this. would be, that's the thing. I mean, I think you'd have to put him there. Burying him on one of these pregame shows is a waste of time.
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Chapter 4: What are the potential career paths for Mike Tomlin after coaching?
We saw he had Tom Brady struggle his first year and then came back, and now all of a sudden it seems like he has fit right in perfectly in Kevin Burkhardt.
and he has formed a relationship and a friendship on the air that's a very comfortable listen, and Tom Brady does a lot of stuff within the body of the game talking about different nuances of the game, which is great, which is fantastic, which is what you want. I think Tomlin would go through some growing pains as well. Now, the other thing, too, if you are a network that is hiring him,
I mean, you've got to make sure he's not going to basically leave you. I mean, I don't think CBS ever expected Matt Ryan to go back and become the president of football operations of the Atlanta Falcons. That was not the intention of CBS.
And then Arthur Blank out of the blue decides to clean house, and he turns to an old trusted friend that brought his team to the Super Bowl and was the most accomplished player in baseball. in franchise history. So those things happen for sure. You know that Mike Tomlin's going to be asked to coach again.
Now, if he does like a Bill Cowher, where Bill, you know, was probably offered three or four or five different jobs and turned every single one of them down because he liked his lifestyle and he loved working at CBS. You know, that also could happen too, but I think this guy's young enough and can command so much money and go out there and get any job that he wants when it becomes available.
I don't know if long-term TV is in the cards for him.
So why doesn't he just do exactly what Sean Payton did? Why does that same type of trajectory work for Mike Thompson?
You know, he may want to take a year off, go travel, just watch some football, meet some players, you know, travel around. You know, we at CBS, we used Sean Payton on one of the Super Bowls that we had. I forget which one it was. Maybe it was, was it Super Bowl 50? I don't know which one it was. But we had him in as a guest, and he was great. But he didn't want to do TV a long term.
He wanted to get back into coaching.
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Chapter 5: What factors should be considered in pairing Mike Tomlin for TV?
Yeah. Tony Romo, 10 years, $180 million starting in 2020.
And I think the contract basically says as long as if the NFL reopens the TV contracts and CBS is out of it, then that's when that contract ends. But if CBS extends it, that contract stays in place.
Yeah, so you've got all the way until, I guess, 2030 for that contract to expire. So we'll see what happens there. Now, I guess, you know, the Steelers' head coaching job has got to be one of the ones that is the most coveted in all of the NFL because they are going to give you so much time to figure it out.
Now, we have not seen one of their coaches step in and not have success in the first couple of years. Every one of those guys had, you know. Chuck Knoll gets there, you know, has a rough first year, but then they draft Mean Joe Green, and then all of a sudden, they're like, they go on and have this unbelievable dynasty run.
Bill Cowher gets there after that, just a couple of years for him to build that team, and then bang, look at that. You know, he's in a championship game in 94. He's in the Super Bowl in 95. You know, he ends up winning the Super Bowl in 2005. Mike Tomlin steps in in 2007. He's winning the Super Bowl in 2008, so... Those guys won right away.
So we'll see who the next guy is, but they went with young defensive guys in Cower and Tomlin the last two times. There's young defensive guys in Jesse Minter and Chris Shuler that are out there now, but whoever ends up getting that job you would expect would get a long runway to figure it out because that's the way the Pittsburgh Steelers operate.
Mike Tomlin, when he inherited that team of Bill Cowher's, he had a quarterback in Ben Roethlisberger. That helps the transition. That helps you be successful early on when you get there, kind of like Mike Vrabel, kind of like Ben Johnson. You get the quarterback, you get the team built around them, and away you go. That's not the case in Pittsburgh right now.
So whoever steps into these shoes may have a losing record for the first time in 19 years. Sure. I mean, and that could be something that, I'm not saying that it would scare potential suitors away. I would just say that in the back of my mind, I would be thinking, so Tomlin replaced a legend and became a legend himself. How many times has that happened?
Bill Cowher replaced a legend, became a legend himself. So it doesn't happen a lot.
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