Indonesia Protests, TikTok Suspensions & What Happens When Trust Breaks w/ Gita Sjahrir - E633
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BRAVE Southeast Asia Tech: Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand & Malaysia Startups, Founders & Venture Capital VC (English)
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What sparked the nationwide protests in Indonesia and why did they spread to 33 cities?
It's so amazing to see ASEAN, at least the youths, right, doing these very small act of kindness. I'm not one to say that social media is, you know, one hundred percent good, one hundred percent bad. We're just shades of gray trying to do good, sometimes doing bad. Right. It's just hopefully net net at the end you're just doing way more good. So that you're leaving this world a bit better. And I think it was that very small act of uh you know, very small act of connection. You seeing some And then you're not going to be able trying to give something to others. That was pretty powerful for me. And just seeing everybody else in Southeast Asia doing that, that was quite cool.
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That's an understatement. There was this
uh very large protest. And I think what's interesting is that we were actually discussing the last episode, right before the protests happened, talking about how there's a huge trust gap between I think the middle class um and the government. And we said that there were conditions that were just not right. And obviously that has kind of like erupted in street protests and so forth. So but I think maybe from your perspective could you recap what happened?
Yeah. Uh so I was in the ground. I was in Indonesia when it all happened. Um and it started out with a series of smaller scale protests. So there was a protest by the labor movement, and there was another protest uh regarding conditions in the economy and trust issues with the government in general due to expansion of TNI or the military involvement in civilian projects or in state sponsored projects. And so there's a lot of pushback. And then there were this um onslaug of uh uh dissatisfaction that was expressed very publicly by multiple layers of society about the DPR, which is our uh parliament, about the DPR's uh increased allowance, especially what was famous is this housing allowance, which will give them about three two hundred, thirty five hundred US dollars a month net uh for housing.
you know, for rent or whatever, just FYI, um, G D B per capita of the country is five thousand. So this is way above and beyond a typical average salary of a person. Yeah. Right.
Seven times.
That's just housing. It's not the actual salary. So all in, I think all of the salary would have amounted to uh twenty thousand US dollars and it's net. So because they're part of the government, they're not taxed on top of that, right? So people are just, oh, this is twenty thousand dollars a month. Yeah, no no no.
It's two hundred and forty thousand dollars US E.
Per year. This is salary plus plus. So like the way it works is you get a base salary and then you get allowances for things. So some of the allowances that people thought were crazy were rice allowance. You get, I don't know, a couple hundred dollars or up to a thousand of rice allowance. And I don't know what you're doing with that much rice per month.
I'm doing the math and I'm like, wait, isn't I mean I was yeah, the G D C P per capita is five thousand dollars.
Yes, correct.
How did the disparity between parliamentarians’ salaries and average incomes fuel public anger?
That's five thousand dollars not a month, five thousand dollars a year.
So so the average GP per capita of the average GDP per capita of Indonesian is five thousand dollars per year. And the salaries two of
parliament members were close to about two hundred ish thousand. Dollars that years.
That would be the equivalent of I guess in Singapore, America, the average GP per capita is about seventy thousand.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What sparked the nationwide protests in Indonesia and why did they spread to 33 cities?
0:00–4:05
2
How did the disparity between parliamentarians’ salaries and average incomes fuel public anger?
4:05–8:04
3
Why did the government’s tone‑deaf remarks and lack of empathy worsen the crisis?
8:04–12:37
4
What are the key demands of the “17 + 8 Tuntutan” protest movement?
12:37–16:04
5
How did the protests lead to political reshuffles, including a new finance minister?
16:04–20:05
6
Why did the TikTok Live and Shop bans hurt Indonesian SMEs and how is the platform being regulated?
20:05–24:53
7
What legal gray areas (defamation law, fundraising rules) affect activism and entrepreneurship in Indonesia?
24:53–28:34
8
What lessons can Southeast Asia draw about trust, empathy, and technology from Indonesia’s unrest?
28:34–31:59
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