Kristie Neo: Southeast Asia’s Mood Shift, Middle East Optimism & Gen Z’s AI Job Crunch – E619

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How has Southeast Asia’s tech mood changed since the 2021 boom?

Kristie Neo 0:00
Headlines regarding like graduates struggling to find jobs. I I don't think that's of course not a Singaporean issue, it's definitely a global issue. You know, the number of people I've met, most of them are like you know, investment managers, fund managers, these things. Some of them were so blunt, they were like, Some of these Gen Z are so dumb, you know, they just stuck on chat chat GPT, and they think like that as the truth. You know, that's not the that's not how you use Chat GPT, you're meant to query. And and you think about and one of them even said, like, you know, the the way that AI is advancing. I'm just not gonna hire a fresh cred anymore. I'm just gonna get somebody, I don't know, a few years' experience and just build the team from then, you know, the way things are moving as well as
Kristie Neo 0:35
I think organizations and and funds and all that are just gonna be finding ways to do more with small with less. So teams are probably gonna be much smaller than they were before. Everyone's figuring that out, right? Then what's gonna mean for the next generation of of kids who are just coming
Jeremy Au 0:48
out of school? Welcome to Brave. Learn from Southeast Asia's best tech leaders. Build the future, learn from our past, and stay human in between. No BS on Success. I'm Jeremy O, Venture Capitalist, Sarah founder, Harvard MBA, science fiction nerd, and dad of two daughters. Every week, we debate startup news, interview change makers, answer listener questions, and share personal insights. Join our movement of over 40,000 members and get transcripts, resources and community at www.bravesea.com. Stay well and stay brave. Hey, good to see you. Good to see you. Oh, welcome back to Singapore from the Middle East. I mean, I was gonna say like how's the weather? People complain about Singapore's weather and Southeast Asia is south.
Jeremy Au 1:42
No,
Kristie Neo 1:42
it's not even a fair comparison.
Jeremy Au 1:44
I mean Singapore is hot and humid. I have, I was there, but to be fair, we went there during the winter time.
Kristie Neo 1:49
Which is nice.
Jeremy Au 1:50
She was so charming. Or walking around with a light sweater. Winter's the
Kristie Neo 1:54
best time to be there, but So I
Jeremy Au 1:55
I can totally imagine this.
Kristie Neo 1:57
No, really, really. Like after I I always tell people like once it crosses forty degrees, like it's not even possible to be outside. Yeah. Can't you can't even walk. You just stay indoors. So all of the activities move indoors into like malls. So like I think the I think even the Straits Times covered this also. I think there's like a marathon that's being organized inside a mall. It's not even possible to be outside.
Jeremy Au 2:16
You know what? I'll be fine for a indoor marathon. Sounds so much fun taking a pause, get yourself a Starbucks. Well
Kristie Neo 2:22
that you're not very serious about a marathon. Taking a break. Yeah, yeah. Going to the ski section if you want to. Cool off, then then
Jeremy Au 2:34
around and get massage. Then you go around and you you finish off some fruit and ice cream. So yeah, so what's it like? So, you know, it's uh been a year in the Middle East and you know, how do you feel like Southeast Asia has changed, you know, with your new eyes?
Kristie Neo 2:48
It's interesting. I mean like so I think earlier on we were talking about how I was just in C B D today. Today was the first day I was in C B D for nearly a year and I can definitely well, this is how I feel. I don't know if the rest of Southeast Asia feels the same way, but it definitely feels like the mood has been a bit dampened. Like someone took a web blanket and put it over like the C B D area, like you know, the ruffles place area where there's a giant square and everything. Yeah, things feel sort of dampened. Like the the mood is dampened and I mean I was still following the headlines even when I was in the Middle East, right? Southeast Asian headlines. And it's funny how like one year on it's just been
Kristie Neo 3:24
You know, we're writing about the same stuff, it's the same, corporate scandals, but now it's you know, kind of like taken a step further. Still you're talk still talking about it. I guess there's some form of justice for some cases, not for all, but yeah. More of it, if anything.

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