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Breaking Bread with Tom Papa

Episode 324 - Fahim Anwar

12 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What humorous story does Fahim Anwar share about his father?

0.031 - 7.862 Fahim Anwar

You have a very funny joke in the special about your father, immigrant father. Like if you were to give him a really nice car, that would be.

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8.022 - 30.735 Tom Papa

Yeah, 2010 used Toyota Corolla with low miles. It'd be like, oh my God. Like if I got him a BMW, he would be like, I didn't raise you this way. What are you doing? You're wasting money. But if I got a really great deal on that used Corolla, it'd be like, oh my God. You shouldn't have. And then I keep tagging it. I'm like, dad, it's the original owner. He's like, oh, original. I raised you right.

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31.896 - 47.18 Fahim Anwar

It's breaking bread. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. This is fantastic. We've wanted to make this happen for a long time. Yeah, I'm so glad that we could finally do it. I'm so glad that we wasted enough time and didn't put it together and it gave you time to come out with a new special.

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47.28 - 57.194 Tom Papa

Yeah, now I actually have a reason to be on here instead of coming on and being like- Just hanging. Man, the world, huh? You got anything to plug? I have some tweets. You want to pull those up?

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57.214 - 76.654 Fahim Anwar

Yeah. Are you on an all red meat diet? Yeah. No, it's called intrusive thoughts. Yeah. It just came out on YouTube. It's on YouTube. YouTube exclusive. You are one of my favorite comedians. That means so much. You make me laugh. I think I texted you off of a tonight show years ago.

76.695 - 82.741 Tom Papa

And that meant so much to me because like, you know, you're a veteran. I love your stuff too. And you do the tonight show in this era.

Chapter 2: How does Fahim Anwar feel about parental expectations in his career?

82.841 - 102.718 Tom Papa

Yeah. You feel like nobody watches it. I mean, I was joking to Neil Brennan that doing The Tonight Show now, it's very cool, but it feels like you're doing The Magic Castle. Like you're going to The Magic Castle, you put a suit on, and you pretend that you're a famous comedian from the 80s, but then you wake up and it's no different whatsoever. It's so, it is wild.

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102.698 - 113.191 Tom Papa

So it's this great artistic win that you always want. And then sometimes you feel like it means nothing. But then when you texted me and I'm like, oh wow, Tom Pop actually watched it. And he actually liked my late night set.

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113.211 - 128.509 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, it was so good. It was really so good. You did that thing about people who get up too quickly on the airplane and they just- Yeah, as soon as the wheels touched down, they just pick it up. Under the overhead. For like 40 minutes.

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131.015 - 146.796 Fahim Anwar

I could just wait. It was so silly and perfect. Thank you, man. It was great. And the special is great. Congratulations. Thanks. And I just really feel like I was saying to these guys, you're going to pop. You're too good. You're too funny.

146.776 - 175.669 Tom Papa

and uh it's such a slow burn as a comic sometimes you don't know if it's gonna happen or not all you can do is just create and keep putting it out there and then hopefully you find your people yeah and then hopefully you you you think that there's people out there who still just like jokes yeah and kind of old school comedy yeah which so much of the new class now you got to talk to people people like that on on the internet and sometimes as a joke guy you're like oh man yeah is there a place for me anymore definitely i'm gonna say and i don't know anything

175.649 - 199.723 Fahim Anwar

But I'm going to say there definitely is, and it will have more long-term lasting effect than crowd work and stuff. I think that it's a cool forum, and it's kind of a fun thing, and it's like an event. I'm happy for everybody who's able to find. Yeah, it becomes an event, and it's a thing. You're not listening to that on Sirius XM in your car. You're not. There's a new station.

199.743 - 219.848 Fahim Anwar

It's called Crowdworks Greatest Hits. Every track's like, what do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Yeah. It's all visuals. It's all stuff you have to see. You're just trying to listen to it. No, but there is that real thing. And I think that really well-told jokes really are, they're dominant. They're long lasting. And I think that's, you're totally in a good space.

219.828 - 227.442 Tom Papa

my brother came to see you when when when you're in seattle and he same thing he's like oh man i love papa oh that's great seattle is uh

Chapter 3: What challenges does Fahim face as a comedian in the current landscape?

260.29 - 272.694 Fahim Anwar

It was like in the middle. And they were like, yeah, it's like a slight, it's literally like a St. John to a St. John's. That's like nothing. Who cares? They cared. They really cared.

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273.735 - 292.086 Tom Papa

I called Boston Philly at the end one time. And I had such an amazing set. I had crush. I was doing my hour. I was getting it tight, you know? Yeah. And then I guess I was just bopping around too much. And I maybe thought I was still in Philly or something. So this amazing hour-long set. And I'm like, you've been great, Philly.

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292.947 - 306.765 Tom Papa

And I don't even know I did it. And then I'm talking to the fans afterwards. They go, you know, you said Philly. I go, I did? I felt so bad. But they loved you enough for them to come back to you. Yeah, yeah. They were nice enough and everything. But it's so funny how you can ruin an entire hour just by calling in the wrong city at the end.

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307.265 - 325.638 Fahim Anwar

I did a stupid thing in Austin. There's no reason to say this. It was at a time when I would go sign books at the merch table after the show. And I did it for a long time. But it's a lot. Would you bring books or they just brought them? I would have the merch people would bring books.

325.86 - 327.427 Tom Papa

That's logistically, that's tough.

327.668 - 340.843 Fahim Anwar

Yeah. And yeah, it was, I need a whole nother entity to do it. Yeah. And but it was great because you could meet people and especially your first time through in a city and like you get to sign and hear their stories and it's all great. It's a wonderful experience.

341.944 - 358.17 Fahim Anwar

And I was used to in the set saying, you know, at the end, I hang out in the lobbies and take pictures with people and sign books and maybe I'll see you out there. And so if you're not doing it, because I had dinner plans. It was just don't say anything.

358.19 - 378.247 Fahim Anwar

And I said to the crowd in Austin, which was a great show, yeah, normally I go out and sign books for everybody and meet people and take pictures, and I'm not doing that tonight. Good night. Why'd you say that? Why did you just float that you do it everywhere but here? It's a terrible thing to say. Yeah, they should have just not known.

Chapter 4: How does Fahim Anwar describe the impact of social media on comedy?

378.547 - 407.57 Fahim Anwar

I bring my opener out for a curtain call. Do you know your opener? Who opens for you? This was Steven Rogers, and I said, welcome, Andy Fiore. It was just a big, and one more time for, oh. You know, and when you open for people, you know. Getting the name right. Your moments are so small. That's all you have. That's all you have. You did 20 minutes. You hope it went okay. Just get my name right.

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407.59 - 427.143 Tom Papa

I know. Sometimes I'll open for Allie, and then her tour manager's really good about setting me up. Yeah. He'll be like, You know, from The Tonight Show, one of Ali's personal favorites, those little things, like the vouch, will make them open to whatever's happening before they see their person. Because if you just go out there, they're like, why is this happening? Yeah, who planned this?

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427.163 - 429.707 Tom Papa

Who is this? Why are they keeping me away from my person?

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429.787 - 430.428 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, exactly.

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430.448 - 435.576 Tom Papa

But if they go, if it's like, oh, Ali loves him, one of her favorites, it's just so much easier.

435.757 - 447.597 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, completely. Yeah, when I opened, I remember when... They would say, and a good friend of Jerry's, Tom Papa. Oh, it's amazing. Then you're kind of like, you have 20 seconds of goodwill.

447.738 - 467.033 Tom Papa

Goodwill before it's gone. One time I was opening for Neil, and then he couldn't do the Voice of God intro, so I had to do it. He's like, you just do it. Why couldn't he do it? I forgot. He was busy. He ended up doing it for most of the tour, but this time he's like, you just do it. I'm not into it tonight. He's just wiping them off. I was busy. So he's like, you do it. And I'm like, all right.

467.053 - 478.373 Tom Papa

So I'm like, how's everybody doing tonight? You guys excited to see Neil Brennan? All right, you're going to see your first comedian. You'll see him on tonight's show. I'm like, hey, guys. That guy was great on that. MC's amazing.

479.703 - 481.165 Unknown

Cause I can't do it as me.

Chapter 5: What insights does Fahim share about performing in front of large audiences?

482.446 - 485.77 Tom Papa

And then I come out and I'm like, Hey, that was a voice of God guy.

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485.79 - 489.093 Fahim Anwar

Sounds just like him. Right. You start in Seattle.

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489.414 - 489.774 Tom Papa

Yeah.

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489.954 - 492.938 Fahim Anwar

Yeah. You're very well liked. Well, that's nice. I hope you know that.

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492.958 - 498.063 Tom Papa

Well, that's what's kind of been getting me going all these past years is that the goodwill of all the respected comedians like me.

498.163 - 498.524 Fahim Anwar

Yeah.

498.704 - 506.993 Tom Papa

All right. That's something. It is something. Like I have no public fan. Yeah. I don't have stadiums, but that means something. Papa likes me.

506.973 - 511.662 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, it does mean a lot because that's where it all comes from, right? It all comes from that.

512.183 - 528.535 Tom Papa

Well, everything you get too is from your peers. You realize later on when you're young, you just want the industry to validate you or you're looking to the generation above you and like, all right, how do I get on? And then as you kind of are just in this thing for long enough, you realize your best friends are also rising. Right.

Chapter 6: What does Fahim Anwar think about the evolution of comedy specials?

642.081 - 645.165 Fahim Anwar

Did you have friends that wanted to do it too or you were on your own? I was on my own.

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645.145 - 662.85 Fahim Anwar

yeah I didn't have any other friends who did it yeah yeah that's I love that that's those moments it's like it's really on paper such a freakish thing to do stand up like yeah and by yourself just like you're walking around with that thought you're inspired by whatever and you're just walking around quietly like I'm gonna go do this

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662.83 - 679.534 Fahim Anwar

It's not like you're all going to do something with your friends, which is very easy to do. Yeah, very isolating. And especially early on, it's like throwing yourself off a building. Yeah. Just emotionally and internally. When you wake up in the morning and you know you have a set, like one of your first sets, your whole day is ruined.

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679.634 - 691.113 Tom Papa

Yeah, Neil Brennan would say it's like, what we do is like emotionally getting into a car accident every day. You know, just knowing you have a set that night and all that. It's tempered now that we've done it for long enough.

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691.133 - 692.135 Fahim Anwar

But it still exists, right?

692.155 - 699.494 Tom Papa

Yeah, but you understand it, that feeling. If I have a set later that night, I'm like, okay, I don't have to freak out or anything. I know what that feeling is.

700.076 - 701.58 Fahim Anwar

Oh, but so intense in the beginning.

701.921 - 720.866 Tom Papa

Yeah, because you have no frame of reference. Yeah. So your body's like, you'd almost black out when you got off stage. You're like, what's that? You have to listen to your tape. You don't even know if you got laughs or not, why you're funny. You don't know why something works. You're just a sponge. Yeah. So exciting. I used to, did you have the mini cassette recorder?

720.886 - 744.851 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, I would do that. Yeah. Like a detective. Little cassettes. Put on the stool. The great thing on the iPhone, do you tape your things on there? And on the audio voice recording, you can hit transcript. Oh, yeah. The problem is it's not that accurate, but it's so hard to listen to yourself. You know, it's like, especially in a long set.

Chapter 7: How does Fahim balance new material with audience expectations?

807.37 - 829.758 Tom Papa

Yeah, 2010 used Toyota Corolla with low miles. He'd be like, oh my God. If I got him a BMW brand, he would be like, I didn't raise you this way. What are you doing? You're wasting money. But if I got a really great deal on that used Corolla, he'd be like, oh my God. You shouldn't have. And then I keep tagging it. I'm like, dad, it's the original owner. He's like, oh, original owner.

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829.778 - 834.723 Tom Papa

It's below KBB. He's like, what's up, man? KBB, I raised you right.

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836.025 - 840.409 Fahim Anwar

Yeah, he's always been that way. Was he always been tough like that? Because you also talk about like the...

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840.389 - 860.108 Tom Papa

clown money and stuff it sounds like they weren't really down with well just the immigrant experience they come to America they want to set their kids and generations up for success so instead of being a doctor it's like a trope and everything but when you come from lesser circumstances or something or like a worse situation. You come here, you want your kids to do the sure thing.

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860.608 - 865.394 Tom Papa

So doing this is insanity to them. Was it hard? It was very hard.

865.434 - 865.835 Fahim Anwar

Yeah.

865.875 - 883.986 Tom Papa

Yeah. Especially early on. Cause I started so young, I was like 18 and I was still going to mechanical engineering school. I was getting a degree at UW, but standup was like, I was doing heroin or something. Cause I would come late from the club and then my mom would just be, she would stay up and my dad being bent. My dad would always talk through my mom as like a vessel.

884.307 - 903.977 Tom Papa

And then she'd be like, your father's worried about you. Like, what is this comedy? Is it worth throwing your life away? It was like the drug commercial. Like, what are you doing? Where do you find this? But I still got good grades and just did both. But even up until a few years ago, like I've done some stuff. I'd been in a movie, some TV shows written for some things. Yeah.

904.717 - 923.793 Tom Papa

And like, I do well, I have a house off of comedy. I have a car off of comedy. I bought my mom a car off of comedy. I got my mom a Lexus, but still my dad's just like, He thinks I'm delayed to get into medicine or something. Like, I'm putting my real life on hold. Like, still? Not anymore. It's just been too long.

Chapter 8: What advice does Fahim give about the importance of authenticity in comedy?

962.564 - 963.626 Tom Papa

Do a tight five.

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963.686 - 963.967 Unknown

Yeah.

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964.207 - 980.981 Tom Papa

Almost like a, we did it. Yeah. Yeah. And then go to a steakhouse after work. Did it work? Eh, to a degree. A little bit, a little bit, yeah. But my dad only understands like money and career and stability. Where'd he come from? Afghanistan.

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981.081 - 982.183 Fahim Anwar

Afghanistan. Mom and dad, yeah.

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982.203 - 983.526 Tom Papa

And when did they come over?

983.506 - 997.313 Fahim Anwar

uh like late late 70s i think or mid 70s mid 70s what was happening there in mid 70s right before russia right yeah yeah yeah so it was uh peaceful time they just wanted to

998.018 - 1020.313 Tom Papa

I think my dad left just before that happened. Like he came here for school. He got a math degree first. And then he went back for three years to Afghanistan. And then he came back and got his engineering degree. Yeah. And then my mom came to America. But it blows my mind sometimes just like the life I have because of that. What would it be if I was still there? Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

1020.393 - 1027.447 Tom Papa

Maybe like less YouTube specials. Right. Or more.

1027.467 - 1051.792 Fahim Anwar

What if I was you? Are there any comedians that are coming out? Because all these places, even if there's no clubs, you're able to have social media to kind of do your thing. Is there anyone there? I don't know. Taliban would allow it. That joke about raw dogging it on the airplane. Oh, the raw dogging the flight. So funny.

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