Breed Me (with Special Guest Richie Hofmann)

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What is the premise of the “Breed Me” game introduced at the start?

Aaron Smith 0:00
Welcome to Breaking Form, a podcast of poetry and culture, where we get real about queer life and art. We're your host, I'm Aaron Smith. And I'm James Allen Hall. If you're listening for the first time, we play spicy literary games. We revisit poems that we love. We serve hot takes on poetry and pobiz. We read. You to filth. We gossip. We shade. We laugh. And we are not. For everyone.
James Allen Hall 0:45
Aaron, welcome to Breaking Form. I look so forward to being wrapped in your bronze arms. Well, I have to say I'm feeling very Minotaur tonight because we just wrapped an interview with Richie Hoffman. It was so delightful. Still floating.
Aaron Smith 1:03
Floating on the energy, like we neither one of us had ever, you may have met Richie. I'd never met or spoken to Richie whatsoever. Just an absolute delight. So funny, so breaking form.
James Allen Hall 1:15
Yes. Richie Hoffman is the recipient of fellowships from the Guggenheim Foundation and the National Endowment for the Arts. He has three books of poems. First book was Second Empire in twenty fifteen, then A Hundred Lovers in twenty twenty two. And he's just published um a new book of poems called The Bronze Arms, and it's just out from Knopf. I i it's an extraordinary book.
Aaron Smith 1:42
And it's an extraordinary conversation that we had. Well we know you'll enjoy it and we will see you in the fact check. Get your lube, girl. Annie, get your lube. So I was I had this idea that we we should probably call the show Breed Me. Yeah, Breed Me. Breed Me right now. So so Richie, will you play a game with us?
Richie Hofmann 2:08
I would be honored.
Aaron Smith 2:10
Yeah, 'cause it's a segment break, I have to set it. Oh, I love it.
Richie Hofmann 2:12
I love it. I'm like, Yes, Aaron. Aaron, I am so delighted to play a game. What kind of game did you invent for me?
Aaron Smith 2:23
Good boy. So what we what we'd like for you to play is a game called Breed Me. But only on this podcast should you say yes quickly. All right. Outside if someone says play breed me, you may want to think about it for a minute. So but what we're going to do is we're going to name some poets, and we want you to tell us, and of course, we'll just stipulate that you might always say yes, breed me to all of these, but for today's
Richie Hofmann 2:50
No loads refused.
Aaron Smith 2:50
No lo
Richie Hofmann 2:52
Exactly. So just because I mean that's how I think about the canon goal.
Aaron Smith 3:00
Just for the spirit of the game, you'll have you'll exercise some choice and and tell us whether you would love to have this poet breed you or not. And feel free to elaborate on your reasoning about why you're.
Richie Hofmann 3:15
I'm ready to get bread.
Aaron Smith 3:17
All right. So let's start with one that's been controversial in the show for us, Amy Clampett.
Richie Hofmann 3:23
I would let Amy Clampett breed me, yes. Why? She has such an eye for particularities. That I know she'd be an extremely attentive lover.
James Allen Hall 3:39
And also like it I mean, because she has such an eye for details, she picked you.
Richie Hofmann 3:43
Yeah, I would be honored. It's like it's like there's a piece of sea glass that gets three pages and maybe I get three minutes, and that would be a great honor.
Aaron Smith 3:53
Just not the sea glass.
James Allen Hall 3:55
No, no, no.
Richie Hofmann 3:56
No. Let's keep those separate. For it.
James Allen Hall 3:59
No, but like maybe she holds it a little to your neck, you know, just a minute. Yeah, all right. Yeah, with consent.
Richie Hofmann 4:05
I'm ready. She can clamp it.
James Allen Hall 4:10
I'm dead. I'm gone. Bye. Uh that was so that was this has been the most delightful interview and we've had many delightful interviews.
Richie Hofmann 4:18
Oh, same. I love you. So funny. I feel I mean, I feel like I'm listening to this show too as I talk to you because I I love the show.
James Allen Hall 4:24
Oh, thank you. Said that that Bishop is in your your breeding line.

How does Richie Hofmann describe his newest collection, *The Bronze Arms*?

James Allen Hall 4:30
Um But is Robert Lowell in your breeding line?
Richie Hofmann 4:34
Ooh Oh, this is a really hard one for me. I mean, my tendency is to say yes because like To be bred by Robert Lowell would be Something to tell the grandkids. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I it depends how much I know about him. I would be very worried about dating him, I think. He's a very erratic man. Um, and he, you know, played with the trust of people near him. For his own artistic Aims and that would make me very nervous. I'd feel very vulnerable. But, you know It's b it's cold in Boston. I'd say yes.
James Allen Hall 5:26
Yeah, and he'll bring you the I mean, the prettiest skunk fur coat, you know.

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