Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
1/16/26: Trump THREATENS Troops In MN, HISTORIC Nurse Strike, MAGA FLIPS Over Epstein Coverup
16 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What does Trump threaten regarding the Insurrection Act?
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Chapter 2: What recent incident involving ICE occurred in Texas?
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Chapter 3: How is Gavin Newsom responding to criticism from Ben Shapiro?
Crystal grew a mustache. Actually, no, that is producer Mac. He's filling our mustache quota for the day because Griffin is also at a work event. So, Mac, Ryan, excited to be here. We got a lot of news. All right. Let's do it. Let's roll. Yeah, we got a lot we're going to get into. We have stealing this teeing up here from Emily.
We have the Trump Truth Post calling for an insurrection to be called for here in the United States. We have an insurrection to be squashed. Well, insurrection to be squashed, the Insurrection Act to be utilized by Trump. We have him, quote unquote, joking, according to Caroline Levitt, about canceling the 2026 midterm elections. We're going to get into the latest on ICE news.
Chapter 4: What are the implications of the Epstein cover-up for Trump?
including a homicide that reportedly happened at a facility in Texas. We have Gavin Newsom with Ben Shapiro talking about the transing of the kids as well as sort of backing off some of his criticism of ICE. We're going to get into Sean Ryan turning on Donald Trump over his cover up on the Epstein files.
And then if we can get to it, we have Lindsey Graham weeping and crying over the lack of an Iran bombing by Donald Trump. And then we're also going to be joined by a guest, one of the New York City nurses, that have just gone on strike. So a lot of good stuff to get to here.
And one thing I got to add is that last night I interviewed a woman who participated for several days in the Iran protests and has since left Iran and gave me details about the massacre and kind of what she saw there. we have to blur her face and kind of disguise her voice because there's her, her family is still in, uh, Iran and would, would face repercussions if she spoke publicly about it.
So that'll, that might not be ready until the weekend, but we'll, we'll have that as well. Great stuff. So do we want to, um, go ahead and jump into this and start off with the, uh, the insurrection act reportedly in play here from the Trump administration. I'm going to go ahead and, uh, pull up this truth social here if I can share my screen.
Chapter 5: What are the reasons behind the NYC nurse strike?
So here we have Donald Trump on his truth social saying, if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the patriots of ICE who are only trying to do their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many presidents have done before me, and quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking place in that once great state.
Thank you for your attention on this matter, signed President DJ to you. And so the thing that Republicans, some Republicans are saying in response to this is that, hey, and as Trump said, there are lots of presidents have done this before. And I think the number is 17. I've seen that floating around. I think it's been deployed about.
in like 30 different instances I was going the Brennan Center has a timeline of all the different times Insurrection Act has been used and if anybody out there is looking for a podcast idea like that would be that would be it like just 30 episodes about the 30 different did you say just 30 episodes 30 episodes that's three what three seasons one episode per time
But if you look at, if you run through when the Insurrection Act has been used, these are the kinds of things that were blurbs in your history textbook. Fry's Rebellion in Bucks County. I guess, I think Shea's Rebellion was used for it. Some obscure stuff, like a bunch of people in Vermont during Jefferson's presidency refused to stop trading with Canada. And so Jefferson, like...
invoke the Insurrection Act to try to put the Green Mountain Boys down. He failed. Nobody can put down the Green Mountain Boys.
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Chapter 6: What safety concerns are nurses facing in hospitals?
That's never going to happen. You've got Andrew Jackson using it to break strikes. You've got other presidents using it to break strikes. And then in the modern era, you've got George H.W. Bush using it to quell the Rodney King riots. You've got LBJ using it sometimes to protect civil rights demonstrations and sometimes to squash riots in the 1960s.
And what you notice about all of it, except maybe in the case of Jefferson going after the Green Mountain Boys, you know, Vermont had a lot of ties with the French. And, you know, Jefferson, not a fan of Vermont, the first state to ban slavery. Other than that one. All of them have been conflicts that or uprisings that developed apart from the federal government.
Like they were Nat Turner's rebellion, for instance, they used the Insurrection Act to put that down. They actually seems like they did it illegally, but set that aside. This would be basically the first case where the federal government instigated the thing. And then in the case of Minneapolis, you have, I think you had, what, 200 people protesting the other night? Something like that, yeah.
Chapter 7: How are the NYC nurses advocating for better working conditions?
We're not talking about thousands or tens of thousands of people in the streets. We're talking about a couple hundred people. You know, there was that viral interview on Status Coup from the guy who got off his, he's like, I got off my couch in the suburbs because I'm sick of this as an American. Right.
That is not Ulysses S. Grant taking on the Klan, which is another example of him invoking the Insurrection Act. That is not the Colfax Massacre, which is another example of the Insurrection Act. So none of it fits. But, Emily, is the right, like, where's the right on this? Are they agitating for this? They're like, yeah, let's go. Time to really finish off Will Stancil and his boys. Will Stancil.
Or are they saying, like, wait a minute, this is a little bit much. This is just Will Stancil and a handful of protesters. What we should explain, looking at the Brennan Center website right now, the way that they put it, the Insurrection Act grants the president the authority to deploy the U.S.
Chapter 8: What actions are being taken to address the strike and union issues?
military domestically and use it against Americans under certain conditions. And as the Brennan Center says, quote, it is dangerously overbroad and ripe for abuse. A good point on that, by the way. I mean, even if...
We sometimes have this idea about what presidential authority looks like, and then there is an obscure... Insurrection Act isn't obscure, but it's a long-standing law that actually lets the president do a lot. So I think there's a constitutional question here and a prudential question. The constitutional question, he probably can do it. Tom Cotton, people may remember, was... Right.
That's the Tom Cotton op ed that The New York Times retracted famously in 2020 during George Floyd riots. He said, send in the troops. It was the headline The New York Times gave it and argued that Trump should have invoked the Insurrection Act to quell, as he put it, violent riots. And so I think the perspective that people are coming from is. If you don't.
take significant action to quell violence, it only gets worse. I do think there's some evidence of that in the summer of 2020. I think it is unfortunate. You guys are going to disagree with me on this, but unfortunate that there's not federal cooperation to get violent people out of Minneapolis. And I'm talking about non-citizens with violent criminal convictions. But
That said, it's hard for me, like on this whole thing since last week, I'm just always being pulled in multiple directions because Trump's response is always hard to defend too. The problem with that argument is that, as Mamdani pointed out to Trump, that the New York sanctuary law has an exception for violent criminals. That if ICE comes to New York City and is like, here's a guy,
He's been convicted of salt and battery even, or he's been convicted of involuntary manslaughter. And he's right here in your city and he's undocumented. Like we want him. Under those circumstances, Mamdani has said we would cooperate with that. I would suspect that the Minneapolis sanctuary policy, because I know how Democrats write laws.
They don't want to get hit by commercials that say they're protecting violent criminals. So they always put in carve outs in their laws. So that they can say, oh, no, no, it doesn't apply to murderers, rapists, abusers.
So if Stephen Miller's actual goal was to go in and get violent criminals out, I think he would have the cooperation of the Minnesota State Police and the Minneapolis Police Department, St. Paul. But that's not what he wants. He wants what he's getting, which is scenes of chaos and violence, and he wants 3,000 heads a day.
I think, yeah, I don't know what the Minneapolis law is particular, but in practice, this is just from a couple of there's just a couple of examples I'm looking at right now and only two. So it's not a big it's not a huge thing here. But you have an Ecuadorian illegal immigrant in August 2024 driving drunk, crashed head on into Victoria Harwell, killing her.
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