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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

1/19/26: Markets Panic, Jeffrey Sachs On Greenland, Troops To MN & MORE!

19 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the context of the current political landscape?

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Chapter 2: What threats are being made by Trump regarding Greenland?

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Sorry.

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614.281 - 633.384 Krystal

I mean, out of everything, like the Venezuela action has some support. It's not really what people were looking for from this administration beforehand. People are very opposed now in terms of the kidnapping of Maduro. It's sort of like relatively split in terms of running Venezuela. This is still extremely unpopular.

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But some of the logic on Venezuela, the failed lack of logic on Venezuela also applies to Greenland. Like, does Venezuela have natural resources that will be useful to us? Yes. Could we have acquired those resources without this whole insanity? Yes. That was all on the table. It's the same with Greenland.

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Do they have some things that are useful to us, including like a strategic positioning as the polar ice caps melt? Sure. Do we already have the ability to make deals with them and put our military there as much as we? Yes, we do. So what is this all about? And, you know, with Trump, a lot of it does just ultimately come down to show and ego. Right.

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675.113 - 688.332 Krystal

He wants the show of and I think for his legacy, he likes the idea of having expanded U.S., you know, the expanse of the U.S. He likes that. He thinks that this is a good sort of like reality show type play there.

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He thinks it will be fast and easy the way that he sees Venezuela as being, you know, as we're in the early days and we haven't seen all of the fallout and consequences and what that could potentially lead to. He sees Greenland as an easy mark and as an easy target. And I don't think that it gets much more complicated than that. I agree with you.

705.685 - 725.845 Krystal

But in the meantime, you know, I mean, look, Europe is... comparatively weak, right? They're certainly declined over the years. You're still talking about the EU having some 450 million people. You're still talking about this being a very wealthy region compared to the rest of the world. You're still talking about a lot of trading relationships.

725.825 - 746.505 Krystal

And, you know, important things like Ozempic that we get from the region. So, you know, it's not nothing to completely brazenly say, listen, that territory that you think you have, like, we're just going to take it because we want it. The Europeans have really tried to accommodate Trump. They've tried to appease him. They've tried not to piss him off.

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And so you're also forcing a decision point from them where that becomes no longer tenable. You even had the AFD, which is Germany's far right party that, you know, Elon Musk went and spoke with them and one wing of them is like banned because they're neo-Nazis, whatever. They've done a lot to try to reach out to Trump and to the MAGA movement in the U.S. Their leader even had to come out.

Chapter 3: How are the markets reacting to Trump's tariff threats?

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He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got me. Better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.

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908.177 - 909.02 Jeffrey Sachs

In what conversation? MVP?

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The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford. And on Therapy for Black Girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health, and the choices that help us grow.

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As cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart-Gloucester reminds us, We are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of Black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself.

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If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was talking to Dave Smith and I'm like, look, I think the Greenland thing is ridiculous. But then they keep saying, oh, but this will be the end of NATO.

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And we're like, well, you know, it's like maybe it wouldn't be such a horrible thing. Right. Because and obviously it's facetious for anybody who wants that to take that out of context. But in general, you know, if we look at the more recent, you know, not only the U.S. relationship with NATO, but Libya, Ukraine. I mean, it has been a massive drain and source of attention in Eastern Europe.

Chapter 4: What are the implications of U.S. foreign policy on global relations?

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The first Venezuela oil sales goes to a major Trump donor. Because, of course, I mean. Right.

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And it's in some bank account in Qatar.

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It's some private bank account. Not with the U.S. Treasury. I mean, yeah. And that's the thing. I mean, with the Board of Peace. Right. A billion dollars in cash to this thing that Trump controls, that he's the chair of that. Yeah, I guess these other countries can sit on. But if I don't like their decision, I get the final say. I mean, it just it truly there.

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I do think the best way to think about the way Trump operates is through the lens of reality TV and through the lens of the mafia. I genuinely do. You know, and he conflates American interest with his own personal interest. Which is abundantly clear when you look at this insane Greenland, I didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize thing.

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He sees this as like, yeah, of course, our country should invade Greenland and take control of Greenland because of my own personal slight. I mean, this is just a completely bonkers way of viewing politics, of viewing international affairs, of viewing the American interest, all of that.

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Can I tell a funny story about the Nobel thing?

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Sure.

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Yeah. So back in 2010, the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to a activist from China and the Chinese government heavily punished. The Norway, the state, because they operated under the same belief that the Norwegian government awards the Nobel Peace Prize and the Norwegian government had to consistently be like, guys, we have no control over the Nobel Peace Prize.

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And it was the United States that consistently criticized China for acting in a childish and gangsterous manner of trying to punish the country of Norway for the incorrect belief that that the government of Norway controls the Nobel Peace Prize. So for those of us who I covered that actually a lot at the time when I was in college.

Chapter 5: What alarming military actions are being considered in Minnesota?

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He ain't too far behind. He did all this talking. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got me. Better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.

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3868.592 - 3869.395 Jeffrey Sachs

In what conversation?

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MVP. He should be in it.

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Chapter 6: How does Trump’s proposed peace board function?

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Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now?

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I'm Dr. Joy Harden-Bradford, and on Therapy for Black Girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health, and the choices that help us grow. And cybersecurity expert Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds us. We are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us.

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And so what we find is a lot of Black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose, whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you.

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Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Chapter 7: What are the implications of Trump's actions on foreign policy?

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I wanted to talk to you, too, you know, in the context of all of this about this board of peace proposal from Trump. Have you have you dug into the details here? Here's some of the latest.

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3946.205 - 3947.086 Saagar

Yes, I have.

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From Bloomberg. Trump wants nations to pay one billion dollars to stay on peace board. I'll just read you a little bit of this. The Trump administration is asking countries that want a permanent spot on his new board of peace to contribute at least one billion dollars, according to a draft charter for the proposed group seen by Bloomberg.

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Trump himself would serve as its inaugural chairman, would decide on who is invited to be members. Decisions would be taken by a majority with each member state president getting one vote, but all would be subject to the chairman's approval.

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Chapter 8: How is the public reacting to the current political climate?

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Each member state shall serve a term of no more than three years. The three-year membership term shall not apply to member states that contribute more than USD $1 billion in cash funds to the board of peace. We also have news that, you know, of a variety of countries that have been invited. Apparently, Putin himself has been invited onto the board of peace.

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This was all originally conceived, you know, in the context of this, quote unquote, peace plan in Gaza. But now, apparently, the board of peace is being positioned as sort of a Trump run alternative to the U.N. How do you view this? What is he up to here?

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4015.808 - 4061.469 Saagar

If George Orwell had written it, you would think it mildly funny, clever. You might view this in a Marvel comic strip as somebody aiming to run the world. I view this as... sad and pathetic. I said a year ago to many leaders when, uh, Trump's so-called peace plan for Gaza was put forward that this was, uh, a travesty and a trap. And after a genocide, this is not how things should proceed.

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4062.291 - 4094.391 Saagar

Things should proceed with a state of Palestine and Palestinians in charge of reconstruction. God forbid Israel should have some responsibility to rebuild after they've killed probably hundreds of thousands and destroyed this area. But actually, Trump prevailed on one leader after another because he threatened them. He bribed them. He told them, you can't have data centers unless you do this.

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4094.871 - 4130.024 Saagar

You can't have this missile system unless you do this. He twisted everything out of shape and got that plan approved. Now he's doing it again. This is shambolic. He's got his hedge fund friends. He's got... You can't even... joke about putting Tony Blair on this since the British are the most responsible for having screwed up the Middle East for the last century of anybody.

4130.064 - 4159.212 Saagar

So why don't we put Tony Blair back in charge of Gaza? He can maybe rewrite the Balfour Declaration. The whole thing is so absurd. You don't even know where to start. But again, I have to admit, hardly anyone says boo about anything right now. Each one is scared of putting a word out right now.

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I don't think any of this lasts, but on the other hand, this kind of gangsterism plays for a little while. It makes us all at risk.

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One of the things that I see in this Board of Peace, Professor, I'm curious what you do as well, is it's almost like a recreation of the U.N. Security Council here, especially with Russia and quasi privatized version with Trump as some sort of emeritus chair.

4192.381 - 4220.337 Saagar

It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Look around the world. There are actually grownups. And when you talk to them, they know that this is loony. This is insane stuff. Nobody is joining Trump's board to replace the UN Security Council. Many people think the UN Security Council is dead, killed by the United States, but nobody...

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