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Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

2/24/26: Ro Khanna Sounds Off On DNC, Markets Crash, AI Exec Loses Control Of Bot, UFO Files

24 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 19.557 Unknown

This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

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19.577 - 22.901 Ro Khanna

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

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23.121 - 44.044 Unknown

Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious. Mind Games, a new podcast exploring NLP, aka neurolinguistic programming. Is it a self-help miracle, a shady hypnosis scam, or both? Listen to Mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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44.564 - 67.69 Jill Winterstein

Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend, Krista Williams. It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change, dance with the breakdowns. The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves.

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68.19 - 78.891 Jill Winterstein

So I'm like delusionally proud of my chart. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

79.529 - 98.466 Ro Khanna

You can scroll the headlines all day and still feel empty. I'm Ben Higgins, and If You Can Hear Me is where culture meets the soul. Honest conversations about identity, loss, purpose, peace, faith, and everything in between. Celebrities, thinkers, everyday people, some have answers, most are still figuring it out.

98.786 - 109.536 Ro Khanna

And if you've ever felt like there has to be more to the story, this show is for you. Listen to If You Can Hear Me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

109.516 - 111.119 Sagar

Hey guys, Sagar and Crystal here.

111.319 - 118.33 Krystal

Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, and we are so excited about what that means for the future of this show.

Chapter 2: How does the market crash relate to AI disruption fears?

562.487 - 577.007 Ro Khanna

Now, there are a lot of people who lost their political careers because they voted for that war in Iraq. I believe that's why Hillary Clinton never became president. I believe that's why John Kerry never became president. I believe that's why Jeb Bush never became president. But there was a process.

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577.328 - 589.866 Ro Khanna

Here, you don't even have Donald Trump coming to Congress and saying, I want to go to Iran, give us the votes. And the irony is he may be able to make the case. I mean, he's got enough hawks like Lindsey Graham there, but let's at least

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589.846 - 603.267 Ro Khanna

have that debate and that people should be supporting Massey and my War Powers Resolution simply for the sake of standing up for the dignity and institutional integrity of Congress and not being a doormat.

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603.507 - 622.346 Krystal

Yeah, but your point there about the various politicians whose political career suffered because of that vote on Iraq, that's exactly why they don't want to do it because they learned that lesson. Let's just not say anything. Let's let them do whatever. Our hands will be clean because we don't want to have any accountability after the fact if this goes sideways.

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622.426 - 642.005 Krystal

That's what's really going on here. But I want to turn to the State of the Union tonight. I want to turn to some new developments in terms of the Epstein cover-up, which, again, another issue that opposing that cover-up and trying to bring transparency, you've been really at the forefront of. Let's go ahead and put D0 up on the screen. This is some new reporting that just broke from NPR.

642.546 - 665.432 Krystal

The headline here is Justice Department withheld and removed some Epstein files related to Trump. Effectively, they're confirming and adding on to the reporting of independent journalist Roger Sullenberger, who talked about how you had two different women who made allegations involving Trump. One of them, both of them, the allegations come from a time when they were 13 years old.

665.412 - 686.718 Krystal

One of them directly alleges that Trump sexually assaulted her. That girl was interviewed four times by the FBI. So we know some of the tips that came in that were the most salacious against Trump, they just came in through the FBI anonymous tip line. And so people said, okay, well, these may be found not to be credible. These might've been people who were nefarious or crazy or whatever.

687.339 - 703.02 Krystal

This one in particular though, they took seriously enough to have interviewed her four different times. That interview material and also information regarding this other allegation that, you know, he had been there with Epstein and Epstein said, you know, oh, isn't this a good one?

703.061 - 713.054 Krystal

Again, when she's 13 years old and they're both sort of smirking and joking about it, that information also not contained in the release. However, you know, who does have access to that information?

Chapter 3: What insights does Ro Khanna provide about the DNC's transparency?

713.534 - 737.742 Krystal

Ghislaine Maxwell, who through the discovery process of her trial was able to obtain the transcripts and the information around these interviews conducted by the FBI. Congressman, is there any legitimate reason why this material is being withheld from the public? Or is this in violation of the law that was passed through Congress and signed into law by the president himself?

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737.941 - 759.207 Ro Khanna

It's not just a violation. It's a blatant violation. The law says that particularly with political figures, there has to be full disclosure and full transparency and that you cannot consider reputational harm. These files should have been released. These files should not be redacted. And my concern is two things. What have they redacted? What have they kept?

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759.187 - 780.959 Ro Khanna

And two, have they permanently damaged these files? Are those blanked out documents permanently disfigured in a way that it's going to be hard for even the next administration to get to the truth? But obviously now people are realizing there was a cover up at the DOJ. They are protecting people in the Trump administration, including possibly Donald Trump.

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780.979 - 800.162 Ro Khanna

And they are protecting a lot of rich and powerful predators who abuse these young girls. And while the rest of the world is prosecuting them, in UK, they are prosecuting Lord Mendelsohn and the former prince. In Norway, they're prosecuting the former prime minister. In France, they're prosecuting politicians and business leaders. In the United States, we're sitting on our hands.

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800.142 - 820.142 Sagar

Yeah, I just think it's so stunning looking at the comparison, which we talked about the last time around. We have hosts on CBS News who are facing more accountability than people in our own government. That was my last question for you. I know that you're bringing an Epstein survivor as one of the guests to the State of the Union. Just want to get you the opportunity to talk about that.

820.882 - 841.732 Ro Khanna

Haley Robeson is extraordinary. She is a survivor. She was a Trump voter. She came twice to the press conferences appealing to Donald Trump to just release these files to see justice. Now what many of these survivors are saying is some of their rapists are in the files. They're less concerned about even the release of the remaining 50 percent of the files.

841.752 - 861.76 Ro Khanna

And they're more concerned about why no one is investigating these people. Why are they no prosecutions? Why is it that someone like Les Wexner, who we know had alleged hundreds of millions of dollars of ties to Epstein, why is it that the DOJ has never interviewed him, that the FBI has never interviewed him, that he's never been investigated under oath by our law enforcement agencies?

862.1 - 882.386 Ro Khanna

You have two tiers of justice in America. One tier of justice for ordinary Americans and another tier of justice for rich and powerful people who are above the law. That's why I have called them the Epstein class. We need to prosecute them. We need to hold them accountable. And right now we're doing the least of anywhere in the world.

882.426 - 894.24 Ro Khanna

The last point I'll say, it's two American congresspeople, Thomas Massey and me, that exposed all of this. And yet America is doing the least and the rest of the world is acting far more. That's the irony here.

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