Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar
2/9/26: New Epstein Revelations, Clintons To Testify, Bibi Pushes Iran War
09 Feb 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What new revelations about Epstein are discussed?
It's just one of those like open questions. We don't really know what the answer is. We have the video, which was released of showing another person going towards us. I mean, you have, you know, the guards were asleep. The cameras weren't working. There's actually a routine way where the camera... resets every single night for some reason.
According to the attorney general, you've got the cellmate, you know, questions. You've got the former guy who was in the MCC who's been on our show and is like, sorry, there's no way any of that happened. And so, you know, you would actually be, in my opinion, the most responsible to be like, yeah, he probably was killed. I still don't say it because I don't know definitively to be true.
Then you see something like this and you're like, all right, yeah.
What else do you say? If it was the only thing... And you didn't even... I mean, you didn't go through even the whole list because we'd be here all day. There's the fact that, oh, we never found the noose that was used. What do you mean? He was in a tiny jail cell. What do you mean we never found the noose that he was, you know, allegedly himself with?
Oh, there happens to have been this orange blurry figure that we all pretended that the Attorney General and Inspector General, that they all pretended didn't exist when they did their report on this. Oh, that's interesting. What's going on with that? And then you have this. I mean... If it was the only thing.
Yeah, right. Exactly.
If it was the only thing you could go, maybe they just got the date wrong. Maybe they just were being a little bit sloppy and they got the date wrong. But when you look at this and you look at everything else and then, oh, lo and behold, this guy, U.S. Attorney Berman, was fired under very strange and contentious circumstances less than a year later.
You just got to look at this and go like, I mean, it becomes very, very, very hard to believe the official narrative. And of course, a million people had plenty of motive to take this guy out. The other thing that we learned that we talked about before is that his team was cooperative. They were looking at, hey, maybe we can cooperate. Maybe we can name some names. Maybe we can do a deal here.
So quite to the contrary of Epstein feeling like I have no way out and this is it for me. I'm going to spend the rest of my life, which I'm very used to these coddled circumstances. I'm going to spend the rest of my life behind bars. He was still exploring avenues and trying to work it and see what kind of a deal he could make. So I don't know, guys. It's this is just absolutely wild.
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Chapter 3: How are the Clintons involved in the Epstein case?
In high-profile cases that you have... If he's dead, why do you care about traffic?
I mean, I know this sounds insane, but it's true. This actually is true. You can go and check the file names for yourself if you want to. And, you know, we double-checked on some of this. All right, so this is another totally crazy one. Let's put it up here.
So as they flagged on the same day that they opened a child sex trafficking case against Epstein in 2018, he ordered half a dozen 55-gallon containers full of sulfuric acid to his private island. So what's up with that? And look, again, I'm reading the wire transfer form to St.
Thomas, LSJE LLC, purpose and description, times six, 55 gal drums, sulfuric acid with fuel and insurance charge for transport, materials for conductivity probes,
replacement ph and cable dash ro plant um i don't know i mean maybe there's an explanation you have private jets all around i don't know a whole lot about acid and all this other stuff i i've have read a decent number of the plans around the island i know they waste water you know Again, I'm not an expert.
I'm just saying that's one of those where you put it together and you're like, yeah, it's pretty creepy, it's pretty weird, especially when you have massage rooms with masks all over the island. You have trap doors, as one does. So this is apparently a photo that surfaced where it was some trap door that was there on the, which apparently opens directly into the ocean.
So again, I mean, what are the innocent explanation here? This is where they're dumping waste. This is where they're dumping something, you know, I don't know.
Some sort of maintenance. Yeah, maintenance.
If you also own a private island, Please email me and tell me about what it is. I'm not familiar about what it is.
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Chapter 4: What role does Bibi Netanyahu play in the Iran situation?
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of Trump’s statements on Iran?
On the second part about involving others, I mean, there's nothing that has been a definitive smoking gun. And we should all be honest about that. There are some like, look, What are the threads that we would all tug on? Oh, I don't know, all these wire transfers to Russia?
I don't know, all of these photos of creepy old dudes with their collars open smoking cigarettes on the couch with a bunch of women chasing girls around the kitchen. Oh, let's continue, Prince Andrew. Can you even say hovering, like trapping this girl underneath him? Were they really there under their own volition?
Maybe, but you know, I was talking to Scott Horton about this and I was like, look, I know libertarians think that it's not a crime and apparently the current justification is like, well, they wanted to be there and they were getting paid. I'm like, you know, it is actually a crime though to like, send a wire transfer to a foreign country and fly women in for the express purpose of having sex.
That's actually literally sex trafficking, not joking. Regardless of their age, by the way. And in Russia, as you may all learn, or Ukraine, it's not like all these girls are willing in the sense that liberal sex worker types always try to pretend. Sometimes they get kidnapped. Sometimes their family or whatever is threatened. It's not a willing enterprise. So just just putting that out there.
Or they're told they're going to be models. Right. That's what I'm saying. And they get to come to the U.S. on this special visa. And they're you know, they're going to be in high fashion. And then next thing you know, I mean, this is known like this is reported out the way that modeling agencies were used as pipelines for trafficking girls.
And, you know, and these guys were like Epstein and Trump, by the way, deeply enmeshed in these modeling agencies and clearly using that as a path to gain access to girls and women.
Yeah, oh wait, wow, this just broke from the UK press. New story on Prince Andrew. Sorry, the former prince known as Andrew. Now police are assessing if Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor shared confidential reports from his role as the UK's trade envoy with Jeffrey Epstein. U.S.
Department of Justice appears to show Andrew sharing reports in 2020 with Epstein of his official visits to Hong Kong, Vietnam, and Singapore. Wow.
And this comes on the heels of Lord Mandelson and it being revealed. And he's under investigation now for providing inside information from inside the UK government directly to Epstein, tradable information that he was providing directly to Epstein in the midst of the 2008 financial crisis. Right.
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Chapter 6: How does the podcast analyze the public's perception of the Clintons?
Who are these 25 men that apparently struck deals, according to her in this legal filing, that apparently struck deals with our government to be able to make this whole thing go away. Who are they? And why did our government have an interest in striking those deals with those individuals if what she is alleging here is true? That would be a significant thing to know.
Thomas Massey, I believe today, says that he is going to be reviewing. Yep. a number of the unredacted files. He's supposed to have access to the entire cache of unredacted files. And he was asking people, okay, what should I look for in this limited time that I have to go in? So he's continuing to push forward. And let's go ahead and take a listen to the aggressive posture he is taking.
He's saying he will use the nuclear option if the DOJ refuses to unredact the names of the powerful men that are associated with this. Because remember, In this release, according to the law that Massey and Khanna pushed through and were able to get passed and signed into law by President Trump, there are very limited reasons that you are allowed, legally permitted, to redact, okay?
They have clearly gone far beyond that while screwing up and leaving unredacted a number of the victims' names and likenesses. So let's go ahead and take a listen to Thomas Massey and the way he's continuing to try to fight here.
I'm ready to do that if the victims want me to. They believe that the best way to get justice is to force the DOJ to release these names. I've already read one name in a committee with the FBI director there. That's Jess Staley. And again, he may or may not be guilty, but he's been accused by these victims, the lawyer tells me. And there are other names. I don't have them in my possession.
But if the victims want to give them to me, I've expressed that I'm willing to do that. But again, the best way is to force the DOJ to release those names on those 302 forms.
And I just can't give enough credit to both Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey. I mean, he is taking so much incoming from the president, from AIPAC, over his unwillingness to sign on to these, like, Zionist speech codes. I don't know if you saw this video floating around. He was back in Kentucky at an Oldham County, which is like a suburb of Louisville, Republican Party event.
And he was speaking and he was saying, you know, some just very basic things about how he doesn't serve, you know, any one party. He serves the people of the country. And they pulled his mic from him. So, you know, clearly he has really touched a nerve. And the fact that he's a Republican and he has a large following, too, and like a lot of credibility.
And I think people like myself who don't agree with him on any number of issues like night and day when it comes to economics, for example. You have to respect this man and his integrity because he is truly risking, you know, risking it all here to to push for the truth and to push for more transparency.
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Chapter 7: What evidence is presented regarding Epstein's connections to powerful figures?
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In Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in Black history, Martin Luther King Sr. and a young student, Samuel L. Jackson. to be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.
The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago. This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to The A Building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
What if mind control is real?
If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?
Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?
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Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of the Iran negotiations?
And, you know, the other thing that's interesting in this reporting is that—and again, this is not surprising, but it's interesting to see it lay down— Bill Clinton saw Davos and how much influence it had and how powerful it was and what a brand builder it was. And he was like, ah, that's what I want to do.
I want to do my own version of Davos with like, you know, liberal, more overtly liberal humanitarian bent rather than Davos is focused around like business elites everywhere. exclusively is like, let me do that. I'll have the business elites, but I'll also have like the global humanitarian class as well. And so that's really the birth of the Clinton Global Initiative.
So not only did they want to amass money, but they also wanted to amass power and be the central node in this sort of like global influence network. That was That was the whole thing. So, of course, Jeffrey Epstein's going to want to get involved with that, right? He's like, this is my whole bag. This is what I do. Let me see how I can get myself involved here.
Now, the other thing to keep in mind is, like Sagar was saying, you know, Ghislaine being there at Chelsea's wedding. And weren't Hillary and Bill at Trump and Melania's wedding as well? Yes, of course. Yeah, and Ivanka and Chelsea were friends. You know, we think of them as these bitter rivals. I know. They were in the same social circles.
They were going to each other's events, supporting each other's things, going to each other's weddings, et cetera. They are all part of the same class, the Epstein class. And Ryan was saying, in some ways, the class solidarity of the billionaires and the global elites is rather inspiring. They really are there for each other. They really have this tight-knit network.
And I think that's important for all of us to keep in mind. And that came out very clearly In this recent Trump comment where he gets asked about Bill Clinton. Now, the backstory here is Clinton has been subpoenaed to come testify before Congress. Initially, he was saying, no, I'm not going to do it.
And, you know, I guess was willing to risk jail time the way Steve Bannon went to prison for, you know, refusing to. appear in spite of being subpoenaed. He has now changed his mind. We can put this up on the screen and say, okay, fine, I will testify. And he says here, I have called for the full release of the Epstein files. I've provided a sworn statement of what I know.
Just this week, I've agreed to appear in person before the committee. Still not enough for Republicans on the House Oversight Committee. He goes on to say now Chairman Comer says he wants cameras but only behind closed doors. Who benefits from this arrangement? It's not Epstein's victims who deserve justice, not the public who deserve the truth. Serves only partisan interests.
This is not fact finding. It's pure politics. I will not sit idly as they use me as a prop in a closed door kangaroo court by Republican Party running scared. If they want answers, let's stop the games and do this the right way in a public hearing where the American people can see for themselves what this is really about. So Bill Clinton is set to testify after having been subpoenaed.
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