Theo and I talk about coffee, integration of different disciplines, maintaining old disciplines, the weirdness of ice skating, WinterIce with Uri Caine, the voice as a biological instrument, embodiment, effects of technology on live performance, the music of Kate Bush, Wilhelm Reich, the origin of his collaborations with Ben Monder, the recording process on Oceana, the Bleckmann woodshed, practicing what you aren't good at, developing a toolkit of extended techniques, Bob Ostertag, using loopers and other gadgets, Björk and her Medúlla vocalist crew, death metal vocals, getting softies from seeing laptops on stage, letting new technologies sterilize aesthetics, Theo's master-list of weird/adventurous vocalists, the bespoke music making and community building of Meredith Monk, whether or not "just putting in the time" is enough for artistic success, taking artistic risks, and inspiring resistance and refuge on This Land with The Westerlies.

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