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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Welcome to the Busted Open Podcast. Along with Justin LaBar, I'm Jonathan Hood. And on today's show, we talk about the end of an era in WWE.
Chapter 2: What is the legacy of The New Day in WWE?
Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods are no longer in WWE. We give our memories of the legacy of the New Day right here on the Busted Open Podcast.
This is the Busted Open Podcast.
So I'll tell you this, Justin. When the New Day first came out, And I saw these three brothers coming down and the backstory is hilarious when they tell it about how Vince McMahon is on a chair and then telling them how to clap and how to keep rhythm. And just it's amazing.
Chapter 3: How did Kofi Kingston and Xavier Woods impact the New Day's success?
Like Vince wants to be in everything. And so even to the extent of teaching three black guys how to keep rhythm and timing, all right, by clapping like three preachers. When it first came out, obviously it was a thumbs down. Like, what is this? I was familiar with two of the three of those guys and Kofi Kingston, obviously, and Xavier Woods and Big E's there like, OK, so I'm watching this.
And I said, well, this sucks and this is not going to get over because people were booing the new day. It was bad because I was like, why can't this be themselves? Why is this character? But then Big E, I think, was the key to this whole thing, because, you know, he's on the microphone and he has that that preacher sound, that Baptist, you know, fire and brimstone kind of.
uh sound to him when he speaks on the mic like okay so i'm watching the ebb and flow of this thing and you know eventually they become baby faces and they they seem like they're geared toward kids and it's like and it was tolerable and i thought okay these guys how long will this last it just lasted it just kept going and going
Chapter 4: What challenges did The New Day face in their early days?
So I wasn't necessarily the biggest fan of the new day. But what the thing is, is I can respect exactly what they were able to do in this company because they they went through bad creative. I thought at the beginning and then made their own and then just let it go. And they saw the popularity and saw the merchandise. So it worked out.
I mean, I've been the biggest fan of that that act, but I definitely can respect the longevity they had in the company.
Yeah, I mean, again, thinking about the time of bad creative, you think about how bad creative got from... top to bottom overall during the years of 2014 to, we'll just say the pandemic, because the pandemic's kind of a whole other animal. From 2014 to 2020, how bad some of the creative got, especially when you got away from WrestleMania.
When you were at other parts of the calendar, it was just like, oof.
Chapter 5: How did The New Day evolve into fan favorites?
And they somehow thrived. And I'll be fascinated to see whatever media they do or interviews they do or books they ever write to find out and get their version of the story of what the origin is of, again, Francesca the trombone or the idea for bootios. They keep you from ā don't be booty. And rainbows and unicorns and ā
I mean, all the different things they did that got over, when you speak it out loud, you're like, that's not going to get over. That's going to be booed out of the building. But they made it work. And so it's just all the more amazing.
It's not like they were getting over with ridiculousness during the Attitude Era when everybody got over with ridiculousness in the Attitude Era because you could do anything and everything. You could be a porn star. in the Attitude Era as a character. You could be a pimp in the Attitude Era and be the most over baby face. Like, no, we're not talking about getting over in the Attitude Era.
We're talking about getting over in a very sterile PG, very bland. It's a show written for, by, and approved by one man. And they... They were always entertaining.
I really can't think of times where they were a miss from that 2014 to 2020 time when they were on TV, which was mostly because they have, look at the amount of tag team title reigns they have, to be that over and to be on TV that much and to be over for that long that much and to never turn on each other. In that whole time period.
Six years in that time period at the pace that WWE produced content, six years is like 26 years because of house shows, multiple TV all week. Oh, we got to put things out on social and the digital platforms. And they never even tease in that time period. Hey, man, I think Big E's got something on the side. They never even teased that. They never, ever went that route.
They always were a solid trio. They are unique in that capacity because there's no other tag team, no other trio, no other faction that ever had that long of staying power consistently with no break.
I'm not talking about, I mean, Four Horsemen are great, but Four Horsemen obviously is something that lives on over decades and it came and went and, you know, it's even evolved into what was Evolution. NWO, whatever, nothing. The New Day was every week, every show, for six plus years.
Yeah, I want you to think about what you just said there, talking about the PG era. Because as great as the Attitude Era was, it had run its course, and so they went the other way and became a PG company. And the PG of WWE, a lot of it you can give to the New Day because it was really geared toward kids. It was geared toward younger fans.
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Chapter 6: What makes Jacob Fatu a compelling character in wrestling?
Yes. Man, oh man, you think about that matchup, and I think it kind of made Kofi. Kofi wasn't just a guy that was just an energy guy. He actually could go. And one-on-one against Randy Orton, I think that that really helped him in a lot of ways and turned people's eyes. People still talk about that match a lot. It's Shelton Benjamin and Shawn Michaels, but also Xavier Woods and Randy Orton.
Matches that came out of nowhere on TV.
Am I thinking of the right feud? This was a feud that had the race car and Randy Orton had a race car and Kofi... poured paint on it or took sledgehammer or something to it. It was the first time we were kind of seeing an edge to the otherwise fun-loving Jamaican babyface. It was like he kicked it into a new gear that we had not yet seen at that point. Yeah, you're absolutely right.
That definitely was, looking back, a... A turning point for him. And then probably about that same time, over the years, it became an annual attraction. Oh, it's the Royal Rumble. How is Kofi? What amazing feat of athleticism and balance and acrobat is Kofi going to pull off to avoid elimination?
Chapter 7: Is Jacob Fatu a heel or a babyface?
Oh, he's limited. No, he's not. He landed in a desk chair, and he's taking the desk chair to get back to the ring. Or, oh, he got thrown out of the ring, but he landed on the top of the barricade, and he's going to jump from the barricade back to the ring. I mean, it became a thing every year. That became almost like...
I have no clue, but I almost wonder, during some of those years where Kofi was just, again, floating around in the midcard, having banger matches against Dolph Ziggler, but really having no other substance or no other real direction from the company, I often wonder when they did their two times a year, okay, we need to make cuts. Did something like that alone keep him from being on the list?
Well, no, Kofi's a good rumble attraction. We'll keep Kofi around.
Chapter 8: How does Jacob Fatu's style compare to Roman Reigns?
We'll cut insert mid-carder that they cut. So, yeah, Kofi, I mean, talk about taking little to nothing and then making it into something. I mean, he did that as just Kofi Kingston, the single star. Now, had the new day not become a thing for him, How many more years would Kofi has still been around? Who knows? I think the new day definitely came at a good time for him.
Again, it was a reinvention. It was okay. You're not just going to be a singles guy. Now you have partners. Now you have more of an identity even. I mean, again, he never was much of a promo when he was a singles mid-card guy. Now, put them in a promo and the crowd's going to get a huge pop of the night by just going, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. Right, exactly. It's amazing.
It's part of the legacy and it will follow him, I'm sure, around. The other two, by the way, were Jeff Cobb, JC Mateo, and Tonga Loa. I want to make sure it's very clear to the nation that we can always point at TKO and say, oh, they need to cut the budget. But also Triple H has to sign off on these things, too.
Let's not let's let's not turn a blind eye to Paul Levesque and his dealing with this, too. He's got a job to do. He has to be able to cut a budget. I just think that some of these cuts are just it happens all the time. I'm never used to it. But just like Mateo and Tonga Loa. Why are they expendable?
Like Jeff Cobb, when he went to WWE, I think I had one of the last interviews with him before he crossed over to WWE. And Jeff Cobb was happy in the independence and also wrestling in Japan. I mean, that guy's a force, right? And so he really never took off. He was part of the process. He's part of that group. But he didn't have promo time. If you notice, Jeff Cobb didn't say much.
He was just a powerhouse there. And then Tangaloa. You're in the middle of this Bloodline thing, and for those two to be expendable is just strange to me, Justin. You're trying to tell a story here, and then all of a sudden it just fades off. It's just like the whole thing was going on at Oscar. You heard the chants on Monday Night Raw. You heard the chants.
I mean, Asuka's out there and taking on Kairi Sane, you know, and people wanted Kairi Sane because that's just part of the story. Kairi Sane deserved her comeuppance, and now she'll never get it. Fans don't like that. And the same thing with these two. Jeff Cobb is more than a good hand. If you put him in a position, that guy, as you saw in Japan and other places, is a game wrecker.
And same thing with Tonga Loa. So it just, I don't know. It just, while you're telling stories, people are just fading off the TV.
Well, look, it's unfortunate when anybody gets cut. And obviously, as we talked about, Kofi and Xavier, that was not a cut. That was, again, we want a restructured deal. They didn't like that. And so both sides parted ways. It sounds like JC Mateo and Tonga Loa was more of the traditional, hey, we still need a few more bucks that need to be cut.
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