The Cheers of Orton | Remembering Dennis Condrey
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Why were fans cheering Randy Orton on SmackDown despite his heel persona?
Welcome to the Busted Open Podcast. Along with Tommy Dreamer in for Justin Labar, I'm Jonathan Hood. And on today's show we discuss Randy Orton. Why was he cheered on SmackDown? Let's talk about it on the Busted Open Podcast.
This is the Busted Open
Podcast. I wanna start here. With you, Tommy Dreamer, talking about the love for heels. and where this originated because I'm watching Randy Orton just like you did and Raleigh and I'm thinking, you know, in the back he's probably kind of talking to himself and voices in his head and all that. It's just like, you know what? I'm gonna get in my chair. I'm gonna sit right there in the middle of the ring and I'm going to give an impassioned promo of why. Why did I do that to Cody Rhodes? Why did I decide to do this to a friend who said I love you and then do what I did. So he sits there and does the promo and I'm gonna paraphrase Tommy for what Randy Orton told us in the middle of the ring is that he signed autographs and took pictures and spent time with us as fans and hated every minute of it.
Yay.
Oh no, that's exact well that's exactly what happened. It's exactly what happened. You hate me, Randy? Oh, that's awesome. I hear voices in my head. So wait a minute. You said that you didn't like spending time with my kids or with me, even though I was in this long autograph line and you smiled. You mean you hated doing that? And so the fans said, Okay, that's awesome. Still got Yeah. And so I'm sure that when Randy came back, he might have looked at Gorilla, looked at Triple H like, I did the best I could. I did exactly what it was supposed to be done, but yet half the crowd was still with me, which says a lot about where we are in twenty twenty six.
The cool heel is something. But here's the character of Randy Orton, right? Randy w he's what is that famous uh i it's like a turtle or something helps a scorpion across the river and then as these driving, I mean like he keeps butt I can't do it 'cause you're a scorpion and then he stings and he's like, We're both gonna drown but then he's like, Yeah, but I'm a scorpion, I can't help myself. Um
as a Jake Roberts line of things.
Okay. Um yes. But back to Randy. We all kind of expected it. The other part I think people think it's now cool. To win that fifteenth title. And I also don't think that setup with Matt Cardona did anything to make you want to hate him because he looked right at Mac Cardona, shook his hand and then kicked him low and then hit him with a move we all like. It's not like he did it from behind. And you know his promo was disingenuous, so it's like anything this guy says I know I'm not liking it. So that setup I completely was like, they're making it harder for Cody. Because I get Matt Cardona and um Cody are friends, but if you're like looking right at a person, all's Matt had to do was like leave the ring after they shake hands and Randy kicks the rope.
He falls.
How did Jonathan Hood and Tommy Dreamer explain the crowd‑heel dynamic in Randy Orton’s promos?
into the ring and he could hit him with a cutter, just doing something from behind. Nobody likes somebody if they suck or punch somebody. So that setup was a b and the promo was I did it because like even when he said I'm a killer and they cheered. And I'm like, man, this is this is a weird state. I don't know. If there's a baby if it's because of Cody or if it's because they'll just do this for anybody. If John Cena showed up, would they Cheer for Randy if it was John Cena. So I don't I don't know. It it was a weird setup and That promo Was exactly that. Like he went that route of I'm the bad guy and the people didn't want to accept it.
So let's just go back to you and E C W 'cause I feel like a lot of this this this stems from extreme championship wrestling. It's
my fault. We'll
just well well we'll just use you you as an example. The fans were not into you in at the beginning. You had to prove that you belonged in E C W Thank you, sir. Let me have another. It was you, Tommy Dreamer, because the fans of Philadelphia wasn't sure if they were gonna ride with you or not. But you had to prove yourself to the fans that you belong in ECW.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
Why were fans cheering Randy Orton on SmackDown despite his heel persona?
0:00–3:25
2
How did Jonathan Hood and Tommy Dreamer explain the crowd‑heel dynamic in Randy Orton’s promos?
3:25–9:49
3
What parallels did the hosts draw between Randy Orton’s character and ECW’s classic heels?
9:49–16:46
4
Why did the discussion shift to AEW Dynamite after Revolution and what were the key takeaways?
16:46–23:20
5
How did the hosts break down the impact of the number‑one contender storyline on AEW’s title picture?
23:20–28:53
6
Who was Dennis Condrey and why is his legacy important to wrestling history?
28:53–35:29
7
What lessons did the hosts highlight from Dennis Condrey’s career in the Midnight Express?
35:29–37:24