Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Episodes
POGROM IN AMSTERDAM - with Ayaan Hirsi Ali & Omer Bigger
08 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Last night in Amsterdam, dozens of Maccabi Tel Aviv fans suffered a pogrom in the streets of Amsterdam, following the soccer teamâs match against Aj...
GALLANT FIRED, TRUMP ELECTED â with Nadav Eyal & Amit Segal
07 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Last night in Israel, in what came as a shock to many Israelis, Prime Minister Netanyahu fired Defense Minister Yoav Gallant.  At the same time, the...
Iranâs November Surprise? with Nadav Eyal
03 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
With two days before the US presidential election, there is increasing (and surprising) speculation from within the Israeli security establishment abo...
Israel, Iran, Trump, Harris - with Dr. Micah Goodman
01 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/-MGg6Oe5_7AMicah Goodman is on the speed-dial of a number of Israeli political leaders â from Ri...
âThe Ayatollah has no clothesâ - with Rich Goldberg and Richard Fontaine
29 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE HERE: https://youtu.be/U0MWxuQG4fsAs we continue to assess the threat FROM Iran and the threat TO Iran, we sat down ...
EMERGENCY EPISODE - Israel Attacks Iran: with Nadav Eyal and Jonathan Schanzer
26 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: youtu.be/ERj4GQ82wcwLIVE EVENT ALERT â PITTSBURGH: On Monday October 28th at 6:00 PM, Dan will be speaking at a l...
Scott Galloway - One Year Since October 7
23 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUOKHUctWMs LIVE EVENT ALERT â PITTSBURGH: On Monday October 28th at 6:00 PM, Da...
The fate of the hostages, post Sinwar - with Maya Roman and Gil Dickmann
21 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
LIVE EVENT ALERT â PITTSBURGH: On Monday October 28th at 6:00 PM, Dan will be speaking at a live event in conversation with Dave McCormick, combat v...
Bonus Episode: The People's Army - with Dr. Tuvia Book
21 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
LIVE EVENT ALERT â PITTSBURGH: On Monday October 28th at 6:00 PM, Dan will be speaking at a live event in conversation with Dave McCormick, combat v...
EMERGENCY EPISODE: SINWAR DEAD â with Nadav Eyal & Haviv Rettig Gur
17 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Yahya Sinwar is dead. To help us better understand what happened in Gaza over the past 24 hours, the reaction in Israeli society, and what is likely t...
Biden-Harris âJekyll-Hydeâ Israel Policy â with Rich Goldberg
16 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In recent days, the Biden-Harris administration has announced it would deploy the THAAD system to Israel â THAAD is an advanced missile defense sy...
One Year Since October 7th - with Tal Becker
14 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/2yK4Ag_Ca2g As we have just passed the grim one-year anniversary of 10/07, we continue our dedica...
Memorializing a war while still fighting - with Matti Friedman
10 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This past Monday marked the grim one-year anniversary of October 7th. Around the world, Jewish communities gathered to memorialize a war still being f...
One Year Since October 7th - with Amir Tibon
07 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/DfZZbwMuSe0Â Â As we arrive at the grim one-year anniversary of 10/07, we are featuring a dedicate...
IDF INVADES LEBANON, IRAN STRIKES - with Nadav Eyal and Matt Levitt
02 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The past couple days have seen some of the most fast-moving and potentially region-altering events since the 10/07 War broke out. To help us better un...
NASRALLAH DEAD, HEZBOLLAH CRIPPLED - with Nadav Eyal
28 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Watch the conversation on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRTYMukNiy4Â To help us better understand the dramatic developments in Lebanon, Nad...
Emergency Episode â OPERATION NORTHERN ARROWS â with Nadav Eyal
24 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
UPCOMING LIVE EVENTS: September 24 â Join us for the first major live recording of Call Me Back, held at the Streicker Center, featuring Amir Tibon....
One Year Since October 7th - with Yossi Klein Halevi
23 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GKPqu3CUtg UPCOMING LIVE EVENTS: September 24 â Join us for the first major liv...
BEEP! with Nadav Eyal
18 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/mwhxcdja UPCOMING LIVE EVENTS: September 24 â Join us for the first major live recording of Call Me Back, h...
One Year Since October 7th - with Sam Harris
16 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
WATCH THE FULL CONVERSATION ON YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNugi2XnhmIÂ UPCOMING LIVE EVENTS: September 24 â Join us for the first majo...
One Year Since October 7th - with Douglas Murray
08 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/5n8kcm5m Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7F7Pq-XI40&t=2914sVisit our...
Bibiâs message vs Bibi the messenger - with Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal
05 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/yc2pck68 *** In recent days, there has been intensifying debate inside Israel over whether the security ...
The execution of six hostages - with Haviv Rettig Gur & Wendy Singer
02 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/39yxftr6 *** Over the past 24 hours we learned the devastating news about Hamasâs slaughtering of 6 hos...
Rahm Emanuel
30 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/yc4a9uvh *** Our interests in the Indo-Pacific, Russia-Ukraine, and the Middle East are all interconnect...
ISRAEL PREEMPTIVELY STRIKES HEZBOLLAH â with Nadav Eyal & Ronen Bergman
25 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/bdd5bvp8 *** Early this morning, after detecting preparations by Hezbollah to launch a large-scale attack...
A Deal on the Verge of Collapse â with Nadav Eyal
23 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/p5dfbxxw *** As Israelis continue to brace for a kinetic strike from Iran, or Hezbollah, or both, this l...
A new (and bolder) approach to Iran? â with Mark Dubowitz
19 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/bdze4khv *** Mark Dubowitz reports from Tel Aviv after over a month in Israel discussing Israelâs emerg...
Holding Pattern(s) â with Jonathan Schanzer
16 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/4wzexubr *** Israelis are stuck in a tense holding pattern, each day waiting for a response from Iran, or...
Hostage Deal? Iran Attack? And Tisha BâAv - with Haviv Rettig Gur & Nadav Eyal
12 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/2awmrwwr *** Against the backdrop of a possible Iran/Hezbollah attack, as well as international criticism...
What's the Iran strategy? - with Nadav Eyal and Matt Levitt
09 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/56nzhy97 *** HOUSEKEEPING NOTE: Iâm pleased to announce a major live recording of Call Me Back in New ...
Israelis anticipate the response â with Haviv Rettig Gur
05 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/2twexkc9 *** Is the region ready for an Israel-Iran war? Is the U.S. ready? What is the state of readi...
HANIYEH DEAD - with Ronen Bergman & Nadav Eyal
31 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/3x9wjkv9 *** Ismail Haniyeh, the leader of the political wing of Hamas, is dead. He was killed in Tehran ...
Decision Time In The North - with Matti Friedman
29 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/43epx79k *** This past weekend we saw a major and brazen escalation against Israel by Hezbollah. This war...
Divergent reactions to BiBiâs address & its impact â with Nadav Eyal
25 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/4xb5bu7r *** Fresh off viewing Prime Minister Netanyahuâs address before a joint meeting of the U.S. Co...
Israel retaliates against the Houthis - with Ronen Bergman
22 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/3rwv5yzu *** A lot has happened over this past weekend, again. President Biden has dropped out of the p...
Bibi in Washington - with Amit Segal
19 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/mr2sejpr *** Prime Minister Netanyahu prepares to arrive in Washington, DC next week for an address to a joint se...
The Death of Deif â A turning point? With Ronen Bergman
15 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/5dw43272 *** Who is Mohammed Deif? Why does he matter (or why did he matter?) Is he dead? We have often said...
Naftali Bennett, (former) Prime Minister
12 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/24rsb4wv *** Today we sit down with one of the most interesting figures in Israeli public life, former prime mini...
The American Victims of 10/07 â with Jonathan Greenblatt
10 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/2h98vux8 *** On October 7th, Hamas slaughtered, brutalized, wounded, and kidnapped numerous U.S. citizens. We thi...
A Hostage Deal â with Haviv Rettig Gur & Nadav Eyal
08 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share episode on X: https://tinyurl.com/vehsrjpx *** Before todayâs conversation, one housekeeping note. We are announcing our second "Call Me ...
The IDF advocates for an end to the war - with Nadav Eyal
03 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/2fpvh4mv *** In recent days, while we have all been consumed with the U.S. presidential debate, less internationa...
Mike Murphyâs Biden (retirement) Plan
01 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/25du5vv4 *** In todayâs episode we unpack what has actually happened in American politics (up and down the ball...
Bonus Episode: Noa Tishby and Emmanuel Acho
29 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/ydvnv2ry *** Since October 7th, many of us have had uncomfortable conversations we could never have imagined havi...
Where was the IDF on Oct 7? - with Ronen Bergman
27 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
*** Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/yvesakat *** One of the questions we repeatedly get from you, our listeners, is - "Where was the IDF on October 7...
The âDay Afterâ Document - with Prof. Netta Barak-Corren
24 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/yc8jb3m6 Is now the time for Israeli decision-makers to begin serious internal deliberations and planning for the â...
Call me Back LIVE - with Michael Rapaport
22 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://rb.gy/un15s6 Today in this special episode, we are releasing the first episode of the Call me Back podcast recorded before a very...
Is Israel headed for a two-front war? - with Nadav Eyal
20 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/3wt7crw4 First, a housekeeping note: many of you filled out the survey we published in our previous episode, and we a...
Divisions in Israeli society - with Dr. Micah Goodman
17 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
First, a housekeeping note: Over the past eight months the audience for this podcast has grown in ways we could never have imagined, but there is no r...
Haviv Unplugged!
13 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/2s4x4j2h In recent days, there have been a lot of war-related developments that have taken place in Israel and outsid...
OPERATION ARNON - with Nadav Eyal
10 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/3pey4z3y We have just witnessed one of the most extraordinary 48-hour periods in Israel since October 7th, as we lea...
The Great Powers and the War in Gaza - with Walter Russell Mead
07 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/ytm9656f Over the past 8 months, we've focused most of our attention on Israel's perspective and the American perspe...
The last Israeli to negotiate with the Palestinians - with Tzipi Livni (Part 2)
06 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter/X: https://tinyurl.com/nvmznb7m Tzipi Livni has served as a minister of eight different cabinet ministries under three prime minist...
The last Israeli to negotiate with the Palestinians - with Tzipi Livni (Part 1)
05 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter/X: https://tinyurl.com/3jzjamfh Tzipi Livni has served as a minister of eight different cabinet ministries under three prime minist...
A proposal to end the war? â with Haviv Rettig Gur
03 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter/X: https://tinyurl.com/3h7ryskc Today during one of our regular check-ins with Haviv Rettig Gur, we had some big questions: I) How...
What we know about captivity in Gaza - with Glenn Cohen
31 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter/X: https://tinyurl.com/3rnj5dz7 Since October 7, there has been a debate inside Israel about what cost Israelis should pay as a soci...
Diplomatic Avalanche - with Nadav Eyal and Matt Waxman
24 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/7nwh3c8e Earlier this morning, the International Court of Justice ordered Israel to immediately halt its military ope...
Rafah, Egypt & the "Day After" - with Amos Harel
23 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on X: https://tinyurl.com/2prj3ea7 In recent days, we have had three persistent questions: One, how is it that â in just a matter of approxi...
And then there was Gantz - with Haviv Rettig Gur
20 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share Episode on Twitter: https://tinyurl.com/327et39r Haviv Rettig Gur returns for a regular check-in, in which we analyze the emerging political s...
Bonus Episode: Will the Middle East Be Unrecognizable? - with Jared Cohen
19 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jared Cohen is Co-Head of the Office of Applied Innovation and President of Global Affairs at Goldman Sachs. He also serves on the Management Committ...
SPECIAL EPISODE: Gallant Strikes (Again) - with Nadav Eyal
16 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Last night, Israel time, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant took the exceptional step of publicly declaring his view that the current war trajectory is lea...
Israeli Independence - with Dr. Tal Becker
16 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
HOUSEKEEPING NOTE: The first "Call Me Back" Live Event will take place on Monday June 3 at 6:00 pm at the Comedy Cellar in New York City. At the event...
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
12 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
At 8:00 pm tonight in Israel, the siren will sound across Israel to mark the commencement of Israelâs Memorial Day, Yom HaZikaron (Memorial Day for ...
Screams Before Silence - with Sheryl Sandberg
10 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Sheryl Sandberg is one of the most accomplished executives in the tech industry. After attending Harvard University for undergrad and for an MBA, Sher...
The Rise and Fall of a Hostage Deal - with Nadav Eyal
08 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What exactly unfolded in Israel over the past 72 hours? Details are still emerging, but at one point it appeared that all sides may have been close to...
The Age of Grievance - with Frank Bruni
06 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Frank Bruni is a long time journalist, including more than 25 years with the New York Times. He is the author of four New York Times bestsellers. He i...
Israel's Sophie's Choice - with Haviv Rettig Gur
02 May 2024
Contributed by Lukas
There are two major decisions Israel is contending with right now: I) proceed with the military operation in Rafah; or II) pause the fighting, perhaps...
Proof of Life - with Rachel Goldberg and Jon Polin
30 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter: https://tinyurl.com/4ku8n3r3 After over 200 days, Rachel Goldberg and Jon Polin saw proof of life of their son Hersh Goldberg-Polin...
Bonus Episode: Diary from Columbiaâs âLiberated Zoneâ - with Michael Powell
30 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Michael Powell has been covering New York City life and politics for decades, as a long-time reporter for the New York Times, the Washington Post, and...
An Insider's Account of Columbia's Pro-Hamas Protests - with Shai Davidai
26 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter: tinyurl.com/5n6bswst Since 10/07, no faculty member at Columbia University (or any university for that matter) has been more outspo...
A lot is happening in the Middle East... and nothing at all - with Nadav Eyal
22 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Share on Twitter: https://tinyurl.com/3wv3d77z As we try to make sense of the past two weeks, consider this: 1. IDF withdraws from most of the Gaza ...
How Israel Lost The Story - with Scott Galloway
17 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Special Episode: Did Iran Miscalculate? - with Nadav Eyal
14 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What itâs like to fight for your (captive) family - with Maya Roman
12 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
There has been growing tension within Israeli society over where to prioritize a hostage deal â at what cost (in terms of how many and which Palesti...
Data Science Vs Hamas Math - with Abraham Wyner
10 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
30,000. You hear that number and you already know exactly what we are referring to. Itâs 30,000 casualties. Thatâs the number of Palestinians that...
Is the war in Gaza over? With Nadav Eyal
08 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Is Israel Losing America's Jews? With Yossi Klein Halevi and Rabbi David Ingber
05 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Over the past several weeks, especially the Biden administrationâs statements Thursday, Israel has been subjected to a fresh round of harsh criticis...
Is Gantz headed for the exit? with Anshel Pfeffer
04 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On Wednesday, Benny Gantz announced he was calling for new elections to take place in September. What is the significance of this announcement? Is it ...
Lessons from Gaza for war against Hezbollah? - with Haviv Rettig Gur
01 Apr 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Bidenâs two-pronged Israel strategy â with Bret Stephens
29 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Since October 7, the United States has vetoed three resolutions put before the UN Security Council calling for a ceasefire. But suddenly, this past Mo...
Is Israel Alone? With Haviv Rettig Gur
25 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The new edition of The Economist Magazine features a photo of an Israeli flag, blowing in the windâŚall alone. The cover title of this issueâs edit...
War Cabinet Member, Ron Dermer
21 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the days ahead, Minister Dermer will be flying to Washington with a small delegation to meet with the Biden administration about the IDFâs option...
Biden's Bibi Problem - with Nadav Eyal
18 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On October 6th of last year there was a long-standing ceasefire in place between Israel and Hamas. On October 7th, Hamas launched a massive war agains...
The Sobering of the Israeli Left - with Dr. Einat Wilf
15 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Since October 7, we have heard from more and more friends in Israel who came of age -- politically -- in the 1990s. Some of these friends were key pol...
My 'Come to Jesus' Moment with Haviv
12 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
As Ramadan begins, many analysts are speculating on what this means for Israelâs coming military operation in Rafah. There is a threat from Hamas to...
Israelâs Near Death Experience - with Micah Goodman
06 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Micah Goodman is on the speed-dial of a number of Israeli political leaders â from right to left, but especially on the center-left and the center-r...
External pressures on Israel, and within - with Haviv Rettig Gur
04 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Will there be a negotiated pause in fighting in advance of Ramadan, or will the IDF move against the remaining Hamas battalions in Rafah? At the same...
1948 - with Benny Morris (Part 1)
01 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
PART 1 of 2 For more than 30 years of âon again-off againâ peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, many Israelis, and certainly most int...
1948 - with Benny Morris (Part 2)
01 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
PART 2 of 2 For more than 30 years of âon again-off againâ peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians, many Israelis, and certainly most int...
The Anatomy of a Deal - with Nadav Eyal
26 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Last week, Prime Minister Netanyahu released to his cabinet what could be interpreted as a first sketch, an early blueprint, or a statement of princip...
How Hamas fooled the world - with Matti Friedman
22 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Every day we see news accounts âreportedâ by reputable journalists. There is typically one frame in the post-10/07 War: âGazan Palestinians are ...
Is a peaceful Palestinian State even possible? - with Haviv Rettig Gur
19 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
On Sunday, Israelâs cabinet unanimously issued a statement rejecting efforts by the international community to force immediate recognition of a Pale...
The spirit of a nation at war â with Wendy Singer
17 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
While there has been a lot of resentment inside Israel towards its political and security leadership, Israeli society has stepped up in ways sometimes...
Jerusalem - Rafah - Washington - with Nadav Eyal
13 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Are we witnessing a dramatic change in the Biden administrationâs approach to Israelâs defensive war against Hamas? Are these changes just rhetori...
The cost of starting a (losing) war - with Dr. Einat Wilf
08 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Today we look back at the history of Palestinian violence against the Jews in Israel (and in the pre-state Yishuv) -- from the fall of the Ottoman Emp...
How to build a Palestinian state - with Haviv Rettig Gur
05 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Haviv Rettig Gur of the TIMES OF ISRAEL returns for his weekly check-in from Israel. There has been a recent flurry of statements coming out of Lond...
UNRWA & Hamas, the perfect affair - with Haviv Rettig Gur
29 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
The UN has one central agency responsible for handling all refugees globally, but Palestinian refugees have their own UN agency, UNRWA. Why? The numb...
Can a Sunni-Israeli alliance win the war?
26 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Al Jazeera is constantly blasting a steady stream of stories and images to the Arab world about 'tens of thousands of Palestinians dead,' according to...
Israelâs escalating internal debates â with Haviv Rettig Gur
22 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In todayâs weekly check-in with Haviv Rettig Gur from the Times of Israel, we discuss intensifying debates within Israel over the leadership of the ...
The End of a Jewish Golden Age â with John Podhoretz
20 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Will we look back at the past few decades in America as the Jewish âgolden ageâ? And is this âgolden ageâ now over? Did October 7th mark the ...
On Sexual violence and⌠Silence - with Shari Mendes
18 Jan 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Having recently passed the 100 day-mark of Hamasâs massacre against Israel, two events in recent weeks occurred that should have occurred some time ...