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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The Clare Byrne Show on Newstalk with Aviva Insurance.
Chapter 2: Why is the Republic of Ireland's game against Israel likely to be moved?
Now, the Republic of Ireland's home game against Israel is likely to be moved to a neutral venue. But is this the right call? Sinn Féin and the Social Democrats have tabled all motions this week, calling for the government to stop the games from taking place at all. Maurice Cohen is chair of the Jewish Representative Council of Ireland and he joins me. Good morning, Maurice.
Good morning, Clare.
Your reaction to the news that the game, which, as we know, was due to be played here in Dublin, is likely to be moved to a neutral venue. How do you feel about that, firstly?
Well, it hasn't been confirmed yet, and I really hope that neither the government nor the FAI will be bullied or intimidated into the home match taking place other than in Dublin. It really raises serious questions, not only about football... but about our confidence here to manage disagreement within a democratic society. And democracies are not tested when everyone agrees.
So they're tested when people profoundly disagree. And the true measure of an open society is whether it can accommodate competing views, peaceful protest and lawful public events without retreating from them.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of moving the game to a neutral venue?
So you would welcome the peaceful protests, whether they're peaceful or not, we don't know. But there will be protests if that match were to happen in Dublin. You're saying that you would welcome that?
Well, certainly everybody is entitled to a peaceful protest and that, of course, is fine. What we would not welcome or anybody would not welcome is anything that wouldn't be peaceful.
Now, the Taoiseach has said, when he was asked about this last night, that it is quite horrific, the level of atrocities that are taking place, the continuing subjugation of the people of Gaza in particular, where sufficient aid is not getting to the people.
He's saying this amid the pressure that's coming from the Sock Dems and Sinn Féin, both of whom will table motions asking that the match not be played at all.
Yes. Yes, what is your question to me, Clare?
What is your view on that, that the match should be called off?
Well, I don't think the match should be called off, as they said. It should be played. This, after all, is about sport. This is... People don't realise what the Israeli team are. Let me tell you, the Israeli national team
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Chapter 4: How does Maurice Cohen view the potential protests surrounding the match?
It reflects the diversity of Israel's society. And some people appear to have an opinion on the Middle East conflict based on sound bites. That is not good for democracy or debate. The team includes Jewish players, Muslim players, Christian players and Druze players. Some of the most recognisable players come from Israel's Arab and Muslim community.
So when people speak about the Israeli team and not playing them, as though it were a political institution. They're often ignoring the reality of who these players really are.
But I suppose if you agree to play Israel and you stand beneath the flag and you respect the country in that way, are you then ignoring the 2025 International Court of Justice opinion, which concluded that Israel's continued occupation of the Palestinian territories is unlawful?
I don't quite see how the playing of a football match in any way agrees or disagrees with that. This should be about playing sport, not about politics.
You are legitimising a country which is engaging in unlawful activities in relation to the Palestinian territories and is involved in what the International Court of Justice described as racial segregation and apartheid.
I think that you're still conflating political situation with a sporting event. There is no reason that one should take it out on the players of the Israeli football team. We're not playing the government and the Israelis are not the government and they can't be responsible any more than Irish athletes can be responsible for actions of the Irish government.
Just given the level of opposition and public opinion in relation to this match, do you consider that it is difficult for the Irish players to be put in a situation where many people don't want them to play this match and yet they're being told they must?
That will be for their own personal conscience. Again, I think from one athlete to another, they should be very happy to play them. I accept that some of them aren't, but they would not like to be put in the same position and have to be controlled by the Irish government if situations were reversed.
Do you feel the stance being taken in Ireland, you know, if the decision is confirmed that this match won't go ahead here in this country, that that in and of itself does Ireland a disservice?
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