The Debrief

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The Clare Byrne Show on Newstalk. With Aviva Insurance.
Claire Byrne 0:10
And you're very welcome to The Debrief. We're going to look back on some of the big stories of the week. And today I'm joined in the studio by tech editor with The Irish Independent, Adrian Weckler. Journalist and consumer columnist with The Irish Examiner, Katrina Redmond is here. And school principal and host of If I Were the Minister for Education podcast, Simon Lewis. And you're all very welcome to... to the programme. Thank you for being with us. So we heard this week that households are facing around €2,000 in additional costs in bills, everything from food to insurance and of course energy going up.

What are the biggest stories of the week discussed in this episode?

Claire Byrne 0:40
So the question is, should people be given more help to do things like install solar panels? Adrian, I'll come to you first on that one.
Adrian Weckler 0:48
Yeah, well, I have a very strong view on this. And the answer to your last question is yes, I think it's an absolute no brainer. Start with solar panels. So there's about one hundred and seventy seven thousand homes in Ireland out of the one point two million homes that can take solar panels that have solar panels. Now, they are the people who could afford to spend between seven thousand dollars. and €15,000 roughly to put them on. They got the SEAI grant of between €1,800 and €3,000. It's €1,800 now. They're the ones who could afford it, who are now benefiting from, you know, €150 electricity bills, €100 electricity bills, while the people who couldn't afford to do that or weren't motivated to do that are now getting €500 electricity bills.
Adrian Weckler 1:35
It is a no-brainer.
Claire Byrne 1:37
And all that money that we heard about this morning that has been collected.
Adrian Weckler 1:40
532 million euros for the Climate Action Fund. Which was collected on a 2% levy, which is sitting in government coffers, which wasn't spent. So it's a no brainer. People have different views on solar and they're in the weeds arguments about the origin of the panels and the contribution they make to the overall footprint for the ordinary household. And not every household can take solar. But for the ordinary household that can take solar, it is absolute no-brainer to put panels on.

How are households impacted by rising costs this week?

Adrian Weckler 2:11
And it's incomprehensible why the subsidy is only €1,800 and why the government doesn't roll out.
Claire Byrne 2:18
Yeah, especially if we want to try and get ahead, Simon, of this increase in costs that we're all going to be facing now, €2,000 is the estimate. You've done this, have you? Have you done the retrofit?
Simon Lewis 2:28
Yeah, we're actually in the process of it right now in our own house. We applied for that one stop shop scheme and we were lucky enough that our house is eligible for it. So we're sort of in the process of getting solar panels into the house. We're moving from our oil heating to a heat pump, getting the doors, the door done. So it's, you know, we're very lucky that we were able to afford to do that.
Claire Byrne 2:53
So how was the process?

Should the government provide more support for solar panel installations?

Claire Byrne 2:54
Was it was it complicated?
Simon Lewis 2:55
No, like really, really simple. We rang around the various companies. Someone came to our house and told us what we needed to do. And we just have to wait now for them to be ready.
Claire Byrne 3:07
And do they look after the application process for the grants then as well for you? Absolutely.
Simon Lewis 3:11
Basically, yeah, everything, everything. It's it's been really straightforward, probably the most straightforward thing we've ever done in our house.
Claire Byrne 3:17
And hopefully you'll get to the point before the winter where you'll be saving this winter on your bills, which is where, Katrina, everybody would would want to be. But people, some people will not be able to do that.
Caitriona Redmond 3:27
Yeah, and I think this €2,000 cost per family that we're talking about here, I think it's really important to remember that there are people in middle to higher range salaries who can absorb it by dropping some of the non-essential purchases. But the families who are on the lower income range, they're the families who can't adapt and adopt a €2,000 hit to their finances.
Claire Byrne 3:49
I would argue most people in the middle can't afford to either.
Caitriona Redmond 3:52
No, and I think that's very true, because when you're committed to rent and to mortgage, it's very difficult to adapt your budget to take into account for an additional 2000 euro per year.

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