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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
All right, you guys, man, oh man, so much to unpack today.
Chapter 2: What prompted Brian Harpole to sue Candace Owens?
First and foremost, I woke up this morning and I was highly upset. I had a little bit of a yesterday news hangover. I realized that I'm actually so not okay with what Erica Kirk did. She essentially put a target on my back by wrongly asserting that I accused her of murdering her husband. I don't think we can let that fly, right? No, her punishment is going to be more truth.
I always say she is sentenced to more truth and I have been keeping a little secret and it's time for me to reveal it. Also, I am getting the sense that there is something happening, something big happening. It feels like people are upping the crazy a little bit. Something is coming undone in the background.
And on that note, the big news of the day is guess who crawled from under his rock, apparently, and sent me a full-blown lawsuit. Yes, Brian Harpole. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that that would grant me, your girl, the power of subpoena. Let's get started. Welcome back to Candace. So let me back up.
I was standing in Charlotte Airport about to board my flight to Italy last week, and I received an email. Me and my lawyers received an email. It was randomly sent to us. It was something like a retraction demand, but it wasn't actually...
of retraction demand because his lawyer, Brian Harpo's lawyer, asserted at the top right away that they were already going to file the lawsuit no matter what in four days. This was kind of just a nice heads up that these are our claims that we will be making. What? How curious, what do you mean?
This is, you never communicated with me, you never spoke, you never issued any sort of retraction demand, you never answered me when I reached out. This is not at all how it normally goes. I mean, I'm pretty accustomed to how lawsuits work. In fact, I can tell you that's never gone like this, ever, for me. You send, hey, that's what you said is not right, retract it or else I am going to sue you.
Brian Harpole did no such thing. Okay, so before I tell you why I believe he is doing this, and again, this is my opinion, because this is a very curious strategy, I'm going to at first take you through some of the highlights of the demand, which was poorly organized, but it is really just kind of summarizes the actual lawsuit, which he has now filed.
In other words, I want you to understand he had the lawsuit prepared first before he sent me this notification type demand. Okay. Pardon me. I also want to mention because it feels important that Brian Harpo is using the same lawyer. The Daily Wire used to sue me in arbitration for two years straight.
I'm not going to name the firm, even though the lawyer is publicly tweeting and also has a YouTube channel, so it's not hard to find. But I will just say that's another coincidence. I'm very tired of this guy altogether, mostly because he speaks like he's consumed helium.
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Chapter 3: What was Candace's response to Erika's accusations?
Anyway, let's get into Brian Harpole's stated grievances, okay? First up, he wants to sue me. He's suing me for maligning him when I suggested, well, when I stated that not having an ambulance on standby is inappropriate. It's wrong. I'm not kidding. This is what was written. It reads, in your podcast episode titled, Why is everyone crashing out over the Charlie Kirk investigation?
You maligned Kirk's security team, including Mr. Harpo, by stating, quote, In real life, when you spend millions of dollars on security, on your security detail, they don't have you sitting like a duck and forget to have an ambulance behind you.
This statement not only incorrectly calls into question the competence of Mr. Harpole and his team, but it defames Mr. Harpole by falsely accusing him and his team of criminal negligence by failing to render aid to Kirk after he was shot. Okay, so competence...
Chapter 4: How do bipartisan resolutions impact public figures?
is a matter of opinion. Brian, I don't believe you can sue people for thinking that you're stupid or that you're ugly or that you're fat. I don't believe I can sue Trump for thinking Brigitte is the most beautiful woman in the world. More beautiful than me, at the very least. It's not even close, as he says.
I don't think I can sue Trump for making the repeated claim that he views me as someone that is low IQ. So I don't know that you... Competence... is really a claim.
Also, I would argue that it is almost a matter of fact that a security team that has paid many millions of dollars annually should have had an ambulance on standby at an event, especially when it was a part of their normal repertoire to do so. Is everybody forgetting?
Chapter 5: What insights does Candace share about free speech rights?
I used to work for Turning Point USA. I'm fairly certain that almost probably at each and every one of my many events that I have done with Turning Point USA, during a time period when Brian Hartpole was always a member of the security team, we had an ambulance on standby. So that actually felt exceptional to me. It is not my opinion,
that it is my opinion that not having one on standby, especially when the person that you are providing executive protection to texts you guys the night before and says, I think I'm going to be killed. It's my opinion that it demonstrates professional incompetence not to have an ambulance on standby in case anything happens. Sorry, Brian. I most certainly did not accuse you
Of criminal negligence, that term did not come from this podcast. In fact, I hadn't even thought of that term until you put it all over a lawsuit. So we should just look that up and see what the definition is. I did.
It says definition of criminal negligence is a reckless disregard for human life or a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe resulting in serious harm or death. Okay. Unlike civil negligence, it is a crime prosecuted by the state, often leading to imprisonment, involuntary manslaughter charges, or major felonies. Okay.
Thank you for introducing us to that legal term, Brian. What else is Brian upset about? Well, I would argue that the next point actually demonstrates incompetence. Okay. Brian wants to sue me for something that I literally never said about him. Mind you, this was actually the very first point of the letter. It was dizzying. It reads, uh,
It is in your podcast episode titled Charlie's Angels or Demons. You implied that Charlie Kirk's security team, including Mr. Harpole, had insider knowledge about Kirk's assassination. Specifically, you questioned how the security team knew that Charlie Kirk was dead before official confirmation.
The false and defamatory nature of this statement is obvious, as it implies that Mr. Harpel and his security team not only had foreknowledge of the assassination, but were also complicit in it. Want to know the truth? In that particular episode, We never mentioned Brian Harpole or referred to him even once.
The episode, as it implies, is about specifically Charlie's chief of staff and Terrell Farnsworth, the head of the AV team. The specific quotation to which he's referring to is about Terrell Farnsworth because it was Terrell Farnsworth who notoriously announced in a selfie video that Charlie Craig was dead.
like two minutes after Charlie went down, so when no one could have possibly known Charlie was dead, okay? My full quotation, which for some reason is not included, was what were Charlie's closest friends and allies and the people that were going to carry on the torch at Turning Point USA doing? Oh, they were picking up phone calls like Mikey McCoy.
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Chapter 6: What evidence does Candace provide regarding the lawsuit?
Thank you, Brian. I hope that clears that matter up. What else do you have? It looks like this next one is a bit of a double punch. He wants to sue me for describing his outfit, foremost, you'll see. And then he wants to sue me for having ears and a general sense of comprehension, I guess. Like I'm able to comprehend the words that are coming out of people's mouths.
I took notice that as many people did that there were conflicting statements made by Turning Point USA on that day. Now, there may be a valid excuse for those discrepancies in messaging. However, you cannot punish the public for noticing them. OK, I'm referring to the drones. So this this reads this claim reads in your podcast episode entitled The Great Exodus from Utah.
You again falsely claimed that Mr. Harpo failed to render aid to Kirk after he was shot. But this time you incorrectly claimed that Harpo failed to render effective aid to Kirk with his supposed to be medical bag. Okay, later in the episode, you falsely accused Mr. Harpole of lying about drone availability, asking, is that how these assassinations happen?
Together, these statements defame Mr. Harpole by accusing him of being a direct cause of Kirk's assassination. Mr. Harple did not play a role in Kirk's assassination and did everything he could to render aid and assist Kirk after he was shot. OK, so to address that obscure medical bag claim, the full quotation from my episode is just a mere description of Brian Harple and his medical bag.
I said exactly, quote, Brian is the one who then runs over to Charlie. And again, you recognize him because he kind of has that small supposed to be medical bag over him. I'm completely confused as to how that description is in any way defamatory. I just wanted to alert viewers to the fact that he was not just wearing a man purse and it was supposed to be a medical bag. That's it.
Now, regarding the drones, Brian Harpole's statement flew in direct contradiction to the statement that was given by Frank Turek. Okay, that's confusing for the public. Take a listen.
I spent thousands of dollars on drones last year and got the guy's license, but... If the area lies in the Provo, Utah air space, I can't fly it. That's a 107B. We can't break the rules. And then you had secondary restrictions, probably due to heavy foot traffic for the school. But I can't go in and break the rules.
Anyway, on our way in, we had drone footage of the crowd building. And Charlie had it on his phone. I said, Charlie. I don't like this place. There are too many buildings. Charlie just kind of brushed it off because look, we have a security team and he wasn't going to cancel an event.
So we're driving in Megan and his team has drones up looking at the crowd from above and they, they text him some video and there's thousands of people there an hour before and
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Chapter 7: How does Candace connect her experiences to broader societal issues?
You can clarify that, but you can't pretend that someone tried to defame you unless you're going to go after Frank Turek. Anyway, let's actually pivot to the lawsuit because it is remarkable, okay? The lawsuit itself is 69 pages, and for some reason, unknown reason, he begins the lawsuit, and I'm talking like the first few pages, with strong support for Israel. I guess that's mandatory.
Candace is anti-Semitic, even though Brian Harple is not Jewish. I am not Jewish. Charlie was not Jewish. He mentions this just kind of sporadically in a paragraph where he's painting this picture that I'm a conspiracy theorist. They also mention, we can bring this up here on point 19, that I don't believe the moon landing. Guilty as charged. Guilty as charged. I think the moon landing was fake.
I'm not sure what this has to do with anything if I'm required to believe the moon landing is real. But he just kind of mentions that. And then, you know, you got to have that random strong support for Israel right at the top, which is why also embedded is the mandatory picture of Bibi Netanyahu.
You got to let these people know where you stand on Israel before you even get into the substance of a lawsuit. So I appreciate that preamble. That's just called our standard constitutional preamble. You know, he's with Israel. Okay, cool. I'm going to do that when I respond and say, I just want you to know I love Israel. Just saying that.
I now want to draw your attention to the obscure argument that he is making, so just pages and pages of him just kind of painting a picture of who I am. But he comes out and kind of makes this obscure argument that he is a private citizen. OK, that's point 29. He's trying to assert that he is a private citizen. Now, let's take a look at this.
Despite two podcast appearances, Harpo remains a private individual and not a limited purpose public figure. He has social media accounts that he does not use for posting content. He has no public platforms to effectively rebut or counteract statements. And his involvement in the controversy is limited to two defensive appearances. He did not seek publicity or attempt to influence public debate.
Huh? I'm sorry. First and foremost, why is he doing that? That's very important. Let's get to why he is trying to assert that. I know I went on Sean Ryan, but I'm a private citizen. That's because he doesn't want to have to meet the actual malice standard, right? You're a public figure.
You have to meet the actual malice standard, meaning you have to prove that I knowingly published something that was false and that I did it and acted in total disregard to the truth. I knew what the truth was. And I said, I don't care. I'm going to publish this. It's a hard standard to meet.
That would be, in my view, for Brian, to assert that he's not a public figure here, that would be hard because Brian did actually go and pursue not just any podcast, okay, one of the top podcasts in the world, the Sean Ryan podcast, and he opened himself up. What is the law in the books when you do that?
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the lawsuit for free speech?
That's exactly what Brian Harple did. Okay, he went and he's going to argue, I did it defensively. You went on a public platform and you gave information about what the security did, all these questions that were being asked. And you're going to claim, which he does, this is wild, that the reason he went on Sean Ryan, this is crazy to me.
He is saying that the reason he went on Sean Ryan was because of me. That is beyond, okay? Let's look at this point 28. On November 17th, after Owens and other conspiracy theorists had already implicated Harpole and his team in the assassination, Harpole appeared on the Sean Ryan show solely to respond to and to rebut the defamatory statements. I'm sorry, what?
That's going to be a tricky one to prove in court, considered I never once mentioned Brian Harpo on my show until after he went on Sean Ryan. Literally not once did I mention Brian Harpo's name on my podcast. I mentioned his name two days after he went on Sean Ryan, and it was in direct response to his disastrous appearance on Sean Ryan. His appearance was on November 17th.
The first time I mentioned him on this show was on November 19th. In other words, you elected yourself as a spokesperson for the security team, thereby making yourself a public figure, and I responded to it, okay? Here's where it gets even crazier, though. Him pretending that I was a part of the early conspiracies against him. I did not believe the early conspiracies against Brian Harpole.
Okay, not only that, I went through great lengths to defend both Brian Harpole and Dan Flood without mentioning their names because I didn't want the public to find them. when all the early conspiracies started flying. Specifically, the conspiracies were about hand signals, you remember?
Frank Turk's doing hand signals, it looks like Dan Flood's doing hand signals, it looks like Brian Harpole is doing hand signals behind his back, and they're all looped in. I didn't believe it, I genuinely didn't believe it. I didn't believe any of these people had anything to do with anything, because I knew Turning Point.
And so I spoke to Andrew Colvett on the phone about how I did not believe any of that. And Andrew asked me if I would be willing to say something publicly on my podcast to that effect because they were getting hammered. And I said, of course I will. These are good guys. Here is the text message that I sent to Andrew Colvett following that discussion on the phone.
I said, also, yes, I will say something about the security. I know them well, which is why I never bought into people saying that he was making signals. And guess what I did, guys? On that very same day in September, on this podcast, I defended the security team and Dan Flood and said that they were good people. Here are my words.
I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories floating in about the security guard and people thinking he was making gestures. I know that security person. He's a good guy. It would shock me. I Not that guy, not the guy that they say he's like rolling up. He tends to do that, roll up his sleeves. I don't buy that one, okay? I don't buy that one. Wow.
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