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Charlie Kirk Expressed Concerns About TPUSA Finances | Candace Ep 243

25 Sep 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.453 - 1.074 Candace Owens

All right, you guys.

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Chapter 2: What concerns did Charlie Kirk express about TPUSA finances?

1.114 - 22.09 Candace Owens

So a week before Charlie lost his life, he expressed some concerns about the finances at Turning Point USA. In fact, he wanted to put together an entire department, a little mini department to address those concerns. And we have evidence of that. It is always the advice when investigating any crime to, quote unquote, follow the money. So let's do that just a little bit here.

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22.07 - 42.757 Candace Owens

Plus, there is a video that has gone absolutely viral. I am sure you have seen it. It was emailed to me many times where there is a theory that is being floated that Charlie was shot from the back. Now, there are two aspects in that video that we can debunk, and I want to do that. And there's one aspect that we cannot debunk clearly.

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43.038 - 48.685 Candace Owens

I think this is a worldwide investigation, so I want to assist wherever it is that I can. So welcome back to Candace.

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63.937 - 89.141 Candace Owens

There's a lot of leaking going on right now, and I've been very clear that everything in my soul has been screaming at me from the very moment that I found out that Charlie got shot, that this story is much bigger, that there just was something much bigger going on than what has thus far been presented to the public. You know... All of the wrong people are eulogizing him.

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89.161 - 112.135 Candace Owens

They're lying about small things, which I don't like. Because why lie about small things? Only a guilty conscience of sorts lies about little things. And there are a few points that we have covered throughout the story that right away jumped out at me as odd. First and foremost, of course, Bebe Netanyahu over-inserting himself, not even just on day one, minute one.

112.115 - 132.975 Candace Owens

He tweeted before the president of the United States that Charlie had lost his life. That's weird. It's very weird. And we should not forget how weird that is, especially because when he went on multiple hits doing Fox News and Greta Van Cistern's show, he lied about the contents of a letter that Charlie Kirk had written him back in May.

132.955 - 141.569 Candace Owens

What I also don't like are the people like Josh Hammer and Seth Dillon, people that I know who are very nasty and work behind the scenes.

Chapter 3: What is the viral theory presented in the Range Day Bro video?

141.99 - 164.596 Candace Owens

I don't like that they have not yet been honest or forthcoming about the pressure that they and others were putting on Charlie Kirk. That just strikes me as odd. There's no reason to lie. No reason to pretend that you weren't doing that, to try to massage it and lie about it. I believe that there are lies by omission and I view them both to be liars, okay?

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164.616 - 168.7 Candace Owens

And of course, who could forget the word length of Bill Ackman's reply.

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Chapter 4: What comments were made about Erika Kirk during the episode?

168.78 - 179.911 Candace Owens

I tell you guys about this weekend in the Hamptons. I tell you about Bibi Netanyahu calling Charlie Kirk and inviting him to Israel. And Bill Ackman replies with an essay college essay.

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179.931 - 200.243 Candace Owens

959 words, to be precise, was his response to me speaking about that, where he himself did not actually address my point about the quote-unquote intervention, which is how Charlie described it himself, and my point about BBNet and Yahoo and the offer to take Turning Point to the next level financially.

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Chapter 5: How did Charlie's financial concerns impact his leadership at TPUSA?

200.303 - 227.516 Candace Owens

No one wants to address those points. Because I was being honest, people thought that Charlie's ideas were trending in the wrong direction. And by the way, regarding that now infamous weekend, the response videos that were made, which seemed like there was some sort of a PR crisis going on, the response tweets that were fashioned, they were sort of getting funny. Xavier Deruso was there.

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227.617 - 245.46 Candace Owens

I had reached out to him. He had, rather than answering me, messaged me to say, I am speaking out about that weekend. He made a video where he formally addressed the weekend and explained that... Yes, Charlie, and he uses the phrase moral blackmail.

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245.941 - 261.512 Candace Owens

Charlie spoke about feeling morally blackmailed, but this was done in more of a workshop setting, essentially like it was a debate club and they were strengthening their debates on the topic of Israel. We can take a listen to Xavier Deruso in his own words.

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Chapter 6: What evidence is there regarding the investigation into Charlie's death?

262.707 - 278.935 Xavier Deruso

And then people are taking things out of context because there was like a – in the article, the hit piece that came out, it talks about how Charlie raised up his phone and had written on Twitter. And he said something like, BB needs to resign or something like that. And he goes, what would happen if I do this? There was discourse.

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278.955 - 293.713 Xavier Deruso

And then there was one woman who sat in the back who said, if you do that, you're indirectly going to empower Hamas. And then Charlie was like, see, you have to stop saying like that. He was saying that when you are debating about Israel, you need to stop doing it emotionally. You need to do it logically and factually. Otherwise, you lose the debate.

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Chapter 7: What was said about the secretive nature of a Turning Point event?

293.973 - 302.383 Xavier Deruso

He said it is moral blackmail if you say that somebody saying that a politician is bad, that you're then empowering a terrorist organization. Fair argument.

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304.186 - 320.524 Candace Owens

It was a fair argument, but it also was a real argument. And you kind of removed the names that were involved in this conversation. Natasha Hausdorff was there. Seth Dillon was there. And Seth Dillon was the one that was applying pressure to him. And Seth Dillon and Josh Hammer, Josh Hammer didn't jump on him in that moment, were not happy.

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320.544 - 337.787 Candace Owens

They were not happy with Charlie at the end of this weekend in the Hamptons because, again, they saw Charlie. which way the wind was traveling in terms of his positions on Bibi Netanyahu and Israel. And they were, in fact, being accusatory. And again, you don't have to take it in my words or Xavier's words.

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338.187 - 356.974 Candace Owens

I've always had a friendly relationship with Xavier, but we should listen to Charlie's own words, which we have played multiple times of what happened the day after this little weekend retreat where he vented to Megyn Kelly his frustrations with him being wrongly labeled anti-Semitic and how it was actually pushing him away and it wasn't good for Israel.

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356.954 - 384.707 Candace Owens

Then, one of the big questions that we asked and something that we had discovered was that this weekend was kept hush-hush, which is extraordinarily unusual for a Turning Point event. If you're going to fly your influencers out, you want them to influence, obviously. And Xavier offered this explanation for why they didn't post about the weekend until they were rumbled about the weekend.

384.787 - 385.408 Candace Owens

Take a listen.

386.418 - 401.254 Xavier Deruso

And then you have the people who are trying to go and say that, oh, then why was the meeting so secretive? The photos were already on my Instagram. The reason we didn't post that in the real time was because of safety. Do you know how many people would have loved to come and slaughter that whole hotel?

404.44 - 422.82 Candace Owens

Feeling like Justin Bieber because it's not clocking for me. I'm sorry. So first off, you guys never connected to Turning Point USA publicly. The photos that you posted, if you posted it after the event, I don't think that it's because you were fearful that what just being a conservative...

422.8 - 443.763 Candace Owens

in the Hamptons was going to get you slaughtered, like where the Hamas tunnels under the Hamptons, that doesn't make sense. That makes entirely no sense. And we should call out how little sense that makes, especially because one of the influencers did post on August 6th that she was in the Hamptons. Actually, Emily, Emily loves America. Emily saves America.

Chapter 8: How does Candace Owens address the criticism towards Erika Kirk?

465.263 - 485.607 Candace Owens

So I guess there's no Israel angle here, which does, of course, there's tons of Zionists in the Hamptons, the Lachman among them. So I don't understand. You couldn't post that you were the Hamptons because you were going to get killed. How? I need more information there because that's just that's just silly. And I also love the context of him doing this on PragerU's platform.

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486.067 - 505.809 Candace Owens

I obviously worked for PragerU. I know Marissa Strait. I am looking at Marissa Strait right there, right there, a little PR operation to address the point without actually addressing the points and to make it seem like it was nothing. And that's not the reality. Marissa has always been open about the fact that she worked for the IDF intelligence.

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505.829 - 522.83 Candace Owens

And like I said, you could sense there was a PR panic there. When people started speaking about the weekend, I told you guys the truth. That's it, okay? I don't like the fact that Charlie was literally facing financial threats over his speech, the thing that mattered most to him, right? Fighting for free speech.

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523.03 - 543.14 Candace Owens

Even if you disagreed with somebody, you know, you got to make sure that they have a right to express their viewpoints. And what happened to me a year earlier seemed to be happening to him one year later. Another thing that I really do not like and it is bothering me and is eating at me is the fact that Turning Point will not release the footage, okay? I don't understand it.

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543.16 - 552.977 Candace Owens

Every excuse that I have been handed for why they won't release it makes no sense to me. If you are under pressure, if people are starting to look at you funny as an organization, if they're thinking...

552.957 - 575.406 Candace Owens

that whether rightfully or wrongfully, if they are suspecting because they see this footage of someone quickly remove the SD cards that you guys had something to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk and you quite literally have footage that in theory should vindicate yourself, why wouldn't you release it? Think about that. It's just in your own capacity.

575.426 - 597.274 Candace Owens

If somebody is saying you are guilty of anything, if they're like, Candace, you are absolutely guilty of breaking into my car. And I'm like, I have a camera right here that shows that I did not break into your car. Would it make sense if I was like, but I'm not going to release that. I'm not going to release that because it's not right. It's not right for me to release. What? It makes no sense.

598.148 - 617.517 Candace Owens

I don't understand why they would not release this. The idea that it's because, well, the feds are saying the feds cannot arrest you. Last I checked, the feds cannot bring charges against you for releasing footage that you own. And since when do we trust the feds? Certainly Charlie didn't. He didn't believe we were getting the truth about the Epstein files and things of that nature.

617.557 - 635.807 Candace Owens

So I don't accept that. That said, I also want to be clear that it doesn't mean that every single person that is continuing on in the organization is guilty of murder. I mean, I think we want answers, but we shouldn't be like, you know, this person's definitely a murderer because they're not providing the answers.

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