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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: What He Saw On Fort Huachuca The Day Before Charlie Died. | Candace Ep 282
19 Dec 2025
I thought long and hard about whether or not to bring the eyewitness from Fort Huachuca onto the show,. When we speak to him and he gives his testimony, I think you will understand why. 00:00 - Start. 01:16 - Addressing confirmed data points in the investigation and what doesn't add up. 23:51 - My interview with Mitch and what he saw at Fort Huachuca. 01:10:13 - Comments. PreBorn! Donate securely by calling 855-601-2229 or by visiting https://preborn.com/candace The Wellness Company Stay ahead of sickness this winter with the Medical Emergency Kit. Visit www.twc.health/candace and use code CANDACE to Save $45 Off + Free Shipping. USA Residents Only 🇺🇸 Tax Network USA Don’t let the IRS be the first to act. Visit http://www.tnusa.com/candace or call 1-800-958-1000 for your FREE discovery call with Tax Network USA. American Financing NMLS 182334, http://www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.196% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-795-1210 for details about credit costs and terms. Visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Owens. Nimi Skincare Save 10% on your order with promo code CANDACE10 at http://www.NimiSkincare.com Candace Official Website: https://candaceowens.com Candace Merch: https://shop.candaceowens.com Candace on Apple Podcasts: https://t.co/Pp5VZiLXbq Candace on Spotify: https://t.co/16pMuADXuT Candace on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/RealCandaceO Candace en Español: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnEspanol Candace Owens em Português: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensemPortugues Candace Owens en Français: https://www.youtube.com/@CandaceOwensEnFrançais Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Okay, everyone, happy Thursday.
Chapter 2: What confirmed data points are discussed in the investigation?
I have to tell you that I was laughing so much yesterday because I received a flood of emails from law enforcement officers, military guys that were just like, no way, absolutely not. That's where I draw the line. The bomb dogs missed the gun. Apparently, for people who work with bomb dogs, this is more of an offense to their intelligence than the Man of Steel Neck. It was just a bridge too far.
This is where they are drawing a line in terms of Fed slop. Anyway, we have another unbelievable episode for you guys here today. I thought long and hard about whether to bring on the eyewitness from Fort Huachuca. And I think when we speak to him today and he gives you his testimony, you will, of course, understand why.
I am always honored to have any person that serves in our military, especially honored to have him given all that he has lived through, despite the firestorm that I know that both he and I are about to endure. Welcome back to Candace. Okay, so a couple of things before we get into that interview.
I, at the top of the show, first want to tell you about this interesting question that I received yesterday from one of our viewers over on X that I wanted to address. He asked me specifically if I saw black plastic fragmentation over the floor of Charlie's SUV. I was immediately struck by this question because I am not kidding.
When I tell you that the very first thing that I noticed when I went through those photos of Charlie's SUV, I said to my team, and it looked like there were shards of glass, like tempered glass that you might see if you drop or break an iPhone. It was very distinct to me in the picture from the blood that is all over the seats and all over the floor.
I was like, oh, maybe like someone broke a window or something. And then I sort of put it out of my mind. And particularly, I noticed a lot of it spread across that backpack seat rear floor. So I'm going to show you that just a couple of photos of that close up so that you can see it, what that looks like.
Because, yeah, it was just kind of a compelling thing that he noticed something that I noticed.
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Chapter 3: What did Mitch witness at Fort Huachuca?
And you can see it. It was unusual. I think in this person's mind, the line that they were going down, I guess the line of questioning that they were going down in their own mind was, is this evidence that something broke on Charlie? Could something have been rigged? And I want to say that we can't necessarily extrapolate to that. From what we're looking at, it could be a thousand other things.
Somebody could have actually broken a phone in there. Somebody could have had something in there. It could be broken hard candy. I mean, there's a lot going on. And yeah, but I did want to address that because it was interesting that he noted it and asked if we saw little black bits. And I do. That is visually what I see.
I am hesitant, by the way, to put up the rest of the photos kind of still going through that. I want to be slow on that because obviously I don't want the federal officers, the good guys that are in there who have assisted in this to be rumbled. Right. I don't want people cash to go on a hunt and figure out who gave us what and people to start getting fired.
Chapter 4: How does the investigation address inconsistencies?
We need to have the white knights in government. So I just need some time to think about that. And yeah. Yeah. Anyways, what we can do, however, and what we're starting to formulate now are just addressing these data points, right? These mysterious circumstances, these things that don't necessarily make sense. What do we actually know about that day?
And what's really interesting for me is when I review these data points, I can't fathom how there are people... out there right now trying to convince you that there is overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson committed this crime. There's actually no evidence outside of these shady messages that are not even time-stamped. We don't have a confession from him. We have nothing, okay?
So these are just some data points for you to remember as we go through this. The surgeon never confirmed or even suggested that Charlie was shot with a .30-06 or that Charlie had a steel neck that stopped that bullet. Rather, he suggested throughout the course of a conversation that maybe a frangible bullet was used.
The lone confirmed eyewitness that we have that is confirmed to the alleged shooter on Losey Center rooftop before the sound goes off, the sound of a shot rings out, has not been contacted by the lawyers or the investigators on either side of this trial, the pending trial. We are now in the phase where investigators are supposed to go out and be collecting more evidence pending evidence.
The May probable cause hearing, he still has not been contacted. And why is that crucial? Because this individual is an instructor at a gun range. He claims the weapon that he saw looked more like a .223, quote, something shorter than the one that they found. The person that he observed was wearing what seemed to him to be black tactical gear plus a face mask.
And he describes that person as looking like a professional. The bomb dogs were unable to locate the weapon in the field where it was eventually discovered, despite the fact that they had crawled over that area. They just weren't on their game that day. This is not my favorite part of the story. It's just a little I just didn't expect the reaction to be what it was.
It's I just love the people that are like, no, absolutely. This is no. We are done with the fed slop. Instead, what happened was federal agents directed local officers to the weapon. Lucky feds, lucky feds. The canines were not provided with the scent of the weapon once it was discovered. So they did not then take that weapon and then have the dogs trace it back to the top of Lossie.
That did not happen. Uh, Terrell Farnsworth, still major question marks. He raced to remove the camera that was directly behind Charlie's head. I want to tell you, by the way, I'm reading myself into this, so not a data point, but in my mind, when I imagine why he might have done that, uh, I think it's because they were going to go with this story that a 30-odd-six hit Charlie Kirk.
And what debunked that, obviously, would be seeing that it didn't go through. There was no evidence of what should have been a tremendous amount of damage done to his neck. I also want to say here, because I've heard that various people like Terrell are getting death threats. Obviously, if you're watching this show, we are investigating what happened with Charlie Kirk.
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Chapter 5: What evidence supports the claims about Charlie's SUV?
And in my investigation, I found that their entire story about how the parents turned him in and did the right thing is crap. It is BS. That's not what happened. They were told either, you know, these doors are going to get broken down or you're going to come in peacefully. And Tyler chose the latter. I also was told by police officers that were there when he...
came into the police that they were told not to look at him. They were told to avoid cameras. Very strange things that happened when he did eventually come in. And we won't know how strange because apparently the footage is missing according to local Utah news that they didn't say FOIA. There's another term. It was a gamma requested footage.
for that footage and we're basically told, well, now there's been an expiration on that footage and we don't have it. So maybe they just mean they already handed it over to investigators. I don't know, but we will wait and see. That's a lot that is going on. I want to pivot now because our instincts, which they keep mocking us over, I think are on the money.
We're going to talk now about Christianity. I'm putting that in quotation marks because it has been on this podcast a recurring theme, right? I keep sensing, A, that these pastors are dangerous, right? I've covered extensively how even just amongst the Calvary Chapel in particular, they're
there's just way too much of a habit of establishing former pedophiles and drug traffickers as lead pastors of churches, okay? I'm not saying that people can't find God. I'm just saying that my preference would be that they maybe not be provided with access to children, right? If you committed a crime against childs.
This is a preference that I guess is not or perhaps is in conflict with the beliefs and the preferences of Rob McCoy, who makes my skin crawl. We showed you that interview that he did with somebody who apparently went on a rampage. He actually went to prison for it and he was just sort of laundering his reputation and then gave him access again to children. I feel like that is very wrong.
I have also on this show been speaking a lot about these quote unquote Christian influencers. Something's not right. A lot of women who seem to know their Bibles for almost the implicit and explicit aim of socially engineering the population, right? Telling you, oh, it's right here in the Bible. Same with the pastors. God doesn't want you to follow Tucker Carlson on Instagram.
Josh Hammer is amazing. Candace is possessed by a demon. You don't want to be possessed by a demon. So unfollow Tucker Carlson and unfollow Candace. And I promise there is no other motivations. Candace is just crazy. You should listen to me.
Similarly, there are so many conservative media companies who are run by former military intelligence, people that leave naval intelligence, people that leave the Mossad. Suddenly their aim is to speak about Judeo-Christian values. They find God after they leave the military. I'm not saying that that's impossible.
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Chapter 6: What role did the military play in the events surrounding Charlie's death?
We ended up conversing for about 45 minutes, and what she shared with me has stuck with me ever since. She said she, quote, could not take it anymore. When I asked for details, she explained that her stress was coming from a class that she was taking on Fort Huachuca, taught by none other than Bruce Bevins.
My ears perked up when I heard his name as I immediately remembered the incident with his wife. This young woman described Bruce as, quote, the most evil man that she had ever met. She then revealed something that I wasn't expecting at all. The class's objective was to teach military personnel to infiltrate Christian groups and organizations through covert psychological operations.
The training focused specifically on deceiving Christians. At the time, I didn't fully connect the dots. Our gym was and still is an openly Christian faith-based organization. But looking back now, I have to wonder if the infiltration and the destruction of our gym was actually a training exercise or a field assignment.
I also wonder if the distressed young soldier was sent to our gym on assignment from Bruce but couldn't follow through with her objectives and instead chose to confide in me. There were other students who will corroborate this type of training. Two military students, both named blank and blank, I'm redacting that, passed through our gym during this same period.
They shared similar stories but seemed much more advanced in their training. On one occasion, after I asked what was so funny in the back of my class, they privately shared that they had just returned from an overnight field training mission with very little sleep. Their objective had been to deceive civilians in Tucson.
About an hour north of us, they practiced at local bars and public venues on unsuspecting people, telling lies, remembering those lies, and maintaining their false personas without quote-unquote breaking character. They laughed about their conquests while working out at our gym. Now I got the impression that their deception sometimes extended to sexual encounters with their targets.
At the time, I found this disturbing, but I did not know what to make of it." Now, 12 years later, and watching the situation unfold with Charlie Kirk and learning that some of his most trusted people may have been trained operatives who infiltrated Turning Point USA, these memories suddenly seem significant.
You mentioned previously that there was a strange military background connection among some of the people involved. I am now wondering if instructors like Bruce Bevins trained some of these individuals before they infiltrated Christian organizations like Turning Point USA. End quote. Now, I obviously cannot confirm just yet.
I'm sure after the show, we're gonna get a bunch of emails, the allegations against Bruce. Again, I have never heard of this individual. But what I can say to you is on a guttural level, I feel this is accurate. I do. It is what I have noticed. It's what I've been pointing to you all year.
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Chapter 7: How does Mitch describe his experience during the investigation?
Get protected the right way with Tax Network USA and start the process of settling your tax burden once and for all. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit tnusa.com slash Candace for your free discovery call with Tax Network USA. Again, that's tnusa.com slash Candace. What can I say other than the fact that I do just feel on a spiritual level that we have been infiltrated? I'll ask a broader question.
Are all of our lives a bit like the Truman Show? Do we have essentially a cast of characters who are performing and pretending? And this is what kind of made everybody go crazy after the Turning Point USA event where Tucker asked the question, where does this guy's money come from? I mean, obviously, Barry Weiss... is what are these actors? This is clearly an act.
You obviously are not intelligent. You obviously are not some journalist that works their way up and broke some important stories. You are obviously an intelligence op and not so intelligent op. Like, are we living in the Truman Show? Are we all going to work thinking that we can climb a ladder when in reality these people are just selected?
and given certain uh they're supposed to be certain characters you're supposed to pretend like you're a head of a tech company and you're supposed to be super weird and quirky i'm going to cast you into that role and then we're going to call you a genius and you're supposed to pretend that you're this super financial guru like a jeffrey epstein and we're going to put you
the head of a finance company. You know, you have no background in this. That's kind of the theme that I'm seeing. Anyways, I don't want to waste too much more time because I do want to bring on Mitch, who apparently has what I would describe as, I don't know if it's the best or the worst luck ever in life, stumbling upon the feds when they're maybe up to no good. Mitch, welcome to my podcast.
It's so great to have you here. I'm doing very well. Obviously, you know the story of how I instantly got the email from one of your friends that just said, you should call Mitch after I prayed and said, I'm missing a piece of this. Please, God, give me a piece of this story. And the first email I see when I get back from church on a day of holy obligation is this email.
And so Mitch, my audience is up to date on what happened to you when you were 20 years old. And I'm wondering if you can just sort of briefly recap in case I got some things wrong.
Oh, wow. Briefly recap 35 years. Sure. Um, yeah, we, uh, we were part of a mission going down to, um, down to the border of JTF six assigned from 10th mountain. Um, Previously, there had been a Marine Corps unit there. Apparently, they had an incident. We had to replace them. They wanted a less kinetic unit to be involved. We went down there in a matter of a few days.
I was the youngest guy on the team. For the first few days, I got assigned to have to you know, do the hard work of putting in the sensors and following one of the border patrol who was on a, uh, he was on horseback, got to learn a little bit about, um, picking up signs in the desert, stuff like that while we were placing these sensors down. Um, it took a few days.
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Chapter 8: What connections are made between military intelligence and the case?
But they effectively destroyed your life and gagged you in the process. Is that a fair assessment of what happens next?
Yeah, it is. Um, I could probably go into some detail that, uh, while we were down there, you know, I got to, uh, got the honor of incinerating all the, uh, uh, it was about a ton of cocaine and a bunch of guns, bunch of money.
Um, and then right afterward, we went right back to work and I ended up getting approached with a friend at, uh, NOCA, Arizona, um, not a friend, but another border patrol agent. And. If it wasn't for him, I was too stupid. I didn't understand why this person was coming up or why they had personal information on me. I was a young kid. It was the Border Patrol agent that caught what it was about.
Yeah, thank God. He knew what to do. Took me back to base and they thought it was something I did to give away my identity. I was on base for
it was the next day that I got brought into a briefing and by that time the photos from the Mexican side had made their way to the American side and they were able to put together how my information got fed to the other side as far as cartels and stuff like that you know it's just plain corruption at this point and it's thick and yeah they have followed me
Um, there's been, I've had people come through my windows. Um, and it's not like, I know these are, it's like fantastical stories. We've got the court documents. We got the, we got the court cases. Um, it's not just that we have those. It's that, uh, the work that was done to even try to bury those afterward. Um, it's pretty substantial and yeah, I've got 20 years of this and you'd think,
you know, one would think that, uh, somebody in the federal government would care, um, or in any part of our government would care. Uh, the more I've gone up the chain to try and, uh, you know, get more of these records as well as get answers, uh, to this saga. Um, it just seems like I step on more and more toes and eventually
That's what led me to going down to Fort Huachuca was just to get the original records and find out, you know, why wasn't the FBI updated as to what my status was? And, you know, why has this been allowed to? Yeah, basically use our own laws against me to attack my life. I feel I wanted answers.
When I hear this story, it makes me so angry because it's just too many people that are serving our country only to figure out that our country is serving some other, you know, the interests of oligarchs, truly. And I think we're kind of all coming to that moment right now and recognizing that it hasn't been left or right.
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