Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the leaked Erika Kirk call?
I survived the ice storm. I'm sorry that we were down yesterday. We had no internet, but we are going to make up for it with a show this Friday. Anyway, what do I have for you today? You guys already know that many people are upset with me. And by many people, I mean the mainstream media and all of their cronies. They're upset for a
foremost because i mentioned the idea that charlie's life may have been the truman show how dare i well it's about to get a little more weird when i tell you something else that we have learned about the origins of the x-men x-men school that he went to in his youth i probably should have named the thumbnail x-men origins missed opportunity also we have and they are uh seemingly very upset that we are going to share with you this conference call that i promised you erica and
Installed as the new CEO and chairman, she headed up this conference call about 12 days after Charlie was assassinated, just after the memorial event. And I'm going to allow you guys to listen to it to see how you feel about it, because I definitely feel a thing about it. What that thing is, I don't know. Welcome back to Candace.
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OK, so last week I said to you guys that in the near future we are going to do a maybe two episodes, could be a three part series on Erica Kirk's past. A few people online were very upset about that. Instantly. Oh, how dare you? How could you look into anything involving Erica Kirk? Let me explain to you guys what's happening here. You're probably wondering what it is that we are doing.
So I'm old.
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Chapter 3: How does the concept of the Manchurian candidate relate to the episode?
I'm 36 years old. Back in my day, there used to be this thing known as journalism, basic journalism. It existed. I know it seems very far off.
But it would be considered probably, back in my day, literal insanity to allow someone to take over the reins of an organization that quite literally relies on the goodwill of the public, because it's a charitable organization, which happened to have raised over a quarter of a billion dollars following the assassination of its founder.
And then apparently nobody's interested in doing a basic profile piece on the new chairman and CEO that took over. That's actually... That makes no sense. And so that's what we are committing ourselves to. We are doing a couple of episodes to separate fact from fiction when it comes to the background of Erica Kirk, because the public deserves to know. And like I said, it's basic journalism.
This entire idea...
Chapter 4: What did internet sleuths discover about the threats against Charlie?
that. Well, Charlie wanted this. That just would fly probably actually nowhere in the world, not even in the old world, not even under monarchy rule in the 11th century. In England, would that work? You can't just say, oh, well, that was his missus. That was his queen consort and hand her a kingdom. Even under that model, it would be Charlie's son that would inherit Turning Point USA. So
Chapter 5: What was Kanye's apology about and how did it impact public perception?
Stop doing that. Stop saying that doesn't make any sense. The public is not biting. I am not biting. And to be clear, the more time that goes on, the more that we are seeing the general direction that this company is taking under her stewardship, the less we're liking.
Chapter 6: What insights are shared from the corporate conference call after Charlie's assassination?
The general public doesn't like it. I don't like it. And especially the recent bout of paranoia where we had a bunch of employees who factually worked 20 hour days. That fact, by the way, you are about to hear Erica confirm herself. Those employees were then fired without even being given a clear reason as to why. Just got to go going in a different direction.
That doesn't exactly match what we were told as the public. We were told that they're a family. How dare anybody question anybody ever in the family? Followed immediately, almost seemingly in the new year, by get out. We're just moving in a different direction. Knock, knock. We're at your door. You're fired. And you better hand me your computer or else. We just want to know what happened here.
Anyway, being a 501c3 company, being a charity, becoming a charitable organization makes you, of course, accountable to the public. Always, they are allowed to ask questions, even if you want to send out a bunch of cease and desist letters.
And thanks to this recent string of misguided firings, that's putting it mildly, we did happen to get our hands on an audio recording of a corporate-wide Zoom call, which took place... pretty immediately following Charlie's memorial. So for clarity, this call took place on Monday, September 22nd. So this is 11 days later
less than two weeks after her husband was publicly assassinated in front of the entire world. It's important to remember that. It's also less than 48 hours, about 48 hours after his private Catholic funeral mass, which the public was not privy to, but top-paying donors were. That's also odd. We'll save that for another day. I just think that you should know that.
I want to plug that into our master timeline, which I know I keep promising you I'm going to publish. I will. So we know on September 10th, Charlie is assassinated. This is bottom of the timeline. On the 18th, this, by the way, strikes me as odd in the retrospect as I was working on these couple of episodes about Erica.
On the 18th, there's eight days after the assassination, she gave an in-person interview with the New York Times at her and Charlie's condo. Now, regarding the New York Times profile piece, I was totally in a cloud of grief by myself when all of that went down. You remember, I had to go away to Wyoming just to breathe, to process, to get closer to accepting that it was real.
I went away for two weeks. I didn't really catch the fact that it was an in-person meeting until later. Eight days after his public assassination, she sits down for a piece with the publication that hated Charlie the entire time he was alive. New York Times was constantly writing pieces about Charlie Kirk or pieces that just were not kind or favorable to Charlie Kirk.
So it's an interesting decision.
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Chapter 7: How does the episode address the reactions to Erica Kirk's leadership?
And reading the article or rereading because somebody said you should actually go back and revisit everything that transpired in the days after. And you kind of have new eyes. And that's very true.
But in reading that article in retrospect, something that I am particularly struck by is the fact that she describes suddenly being forced into the single mother position as the quote unquote least traumatizing thing. Becoming a single mother suddenly, eight days later, she describes it as the least traumatizing thing. Again, that's an exact quotation. I'll read it. You can see it.
She's there going into this. They're speaking about Trump's energy and his tone toward her on phone calls. And it reads, quote, from her, the president's tone, she said, was soft and embracing. I could tell he wanted to hug me. Others have responded in the same manner to Ms. Kirk, now left to care for a three-year-old daughter and a one-year-old son. That new life, Ms.
Kirk said, quote, is actually the least traumatizing thing for me, since she herself has been raised by her mother after their parents divorced when she was young. And we're just supposed to pretend that that's completely normal or whatever.
I would figure maybe the least traumatizing bit would be something more mundane, maybe along the lines, if this was a thing, if Charlie constantly filled up her gas tank and someone was like, well, who's going to fill up your gas tank? She might reply, that's actually the least traumatizing. I don't even care about that. That's just me filling up. my car.
That would be like the least traumatizing thing.
Becoming a single mother after your husband is horrifically assassinated, realizing that your children are going to grow up without a father, a father who toured the world and spoke about the importance of fatherhood and relayed the statistics pertaining to the youth that grow up without their fathers in the home, I would describe that as very traumatizing.
I think across the board, that's a traumatizing thing, not the least traumatizing thing by any stretch of an imagination. Anyway, we are now in season seven, episode four of Everybody Grieves Differently, but that's weird. Now getting to this corporate call again, can we just go back, if you want to throw in that schedule again, sorry, the, yeah, okay, great.
So we have this on the 10th, he's assassinated. On the 18th, it's that in-person interview with New York Times. On the 20th, we have the funeral mass, which is held at a church at 11 a.m., On the 21st is the public memorial event that is held at State Farm Stadium. And on the 22nd, which I had not mentioned before, I've been building this timeline in the background, there's a private dinner.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of the corporate culture at Turning Point USA?
We're talking about numbers and metrics that have been hit. And my husband's dead, not to be morbid. That is a sentence that I, and this was not my husband, and I had no sort of the type of relationship that she had with him that I was able to utter. Least of all, I mean, that's moving pretty quickly to the acceptance phase. Now, we know everybody grieves differently. In my imagination...
I just thought she would be more upset. And I want to be clear, the overall mood of this call is extraordinarily upbeat. It's extraordinarily happy. But of course, as the CEO and chairman, she does have to address the elephant in the room, the morbid elephant in the room, if you will, because it's an obligation. You have a new CEO. The employees are working 20-hour days together.
but also their founder, Charlie, was publicly assassinated less than two weeks ago. You've got to address that. And you're going to hear her address that by recapping to them that throughout these long working days, the employees were provided with ample resources while they were working. Take a listen.
I'm just grateful that while things were still in motion and moving around, that we had our leadership teams provide for you, counselors, pastors. I heard there were therapy dogs, slightly jealous that I didn't get to have any moment with a therapy dog. Breakfast, I was really adamant about making sure that we paid for your flights for your spouses to be there. That was something on my heart.
You don't want to grieve alone. No one's supposed to grieve alone. It's not healthy. But I just think it's a beautiful honor that all of these benefits were made for the community to grieve and remember Charlie. And I really hope you took advantage of those in a healthy way when they were provided because it's meant to be for everyone for healing. Grief comes in waves.
You know, some days are going to be tougher than others, but you know, take it as it comes. And that's why you have your turning point family and just lean on them and lean on, other people in your life that you know will help you and pour into you and pray with you to get you through it.
I say that though, that if you do need more time to grieve, please continue to use Turning Point USA's network of counselors. We have pastors. I mean, there are so many resources for you. If you do need additional time off, please talk to your director. about using paid time off for that. And again, it's not easy, but again, grief is hard.
Otherwise, honestly, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action, Full steam ahead, you guys. Charlie would want us to get back to work, and that's what we're doing, and that's what we did with the memorial, and I'm so honored and proud of each and every one of you because that's what we're gonna do in his honor and in his name. We have... so much to do, which is exciting.
Charlie in Heaven is like, you guys thought you had a busy schedule, then just you wait. And he's doing some awesome things with Jesus in Heaven right now. But there's so much work to be done. I mean, since his assassination, we have 100,000 chapter, 100,000 chapter requests. We have 300,000 new donors. That is a blessing in itself. Again, not normal, all God.
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