Chapter 1: How much influence does a head coach have on player development?
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We are going to be chatting with Yannick Hansen coming up in a few moments as well. A lot of reaction on Dunbar Lumber text inbox. Everybody is very intrigued by the idea of what's going to happen next. Now people are asking a very, you know, fair question, Tatiana and others.
Do we trust a new GM if they come in and say, keep Adam foot around considering how it went with the, with the team on the ice last year? I do think there's an element of like,
Play the game? Yeah. I don't mean the games on the ice. I mean, the game theory aspect.
Chapter 2: What are the implications of retaining a coach from a previous regime?
I was like, okay, when do you want to push the buttons that start the clock and how we truly evaluate you? It's a fair question to bring up. Be like, oh, should we trust the acumen of someone that wants to extend that further? But they didn't make the decision to bring it out of foot. And even from afar, you can kind of make your evaluation. You don't put that on their register.
And so if you can delay the decision on a head coach for as long as possible, it gives you more time. Because again, what's the phrase we often use with linking managers to coaches? Don't hire three. So the longer you can go without hiring your first one, the better for you. As far as your own personal job security. Even if I agree with the notion... It's like you should just make the decision...
For your own job security, if you can delay it a year, it prolongs things for you.
I think just logistically as well, overall, like I mentioned, if you're already looking at this as being a longer-term rebuild, and it's going to take some time, and you also have to think of it as how many coaches survive three to four down years before you get better? Generally not, right?
Chapter 3: How do we assess the Jim Rutherford era for the Canucks?
And if you're looking at it and saying, we're going to be in transition anyways for one year, maybe two more years, you actually buy your next head coach more time by naming him after next season than naming him this season. Because next year could be another one like taken on the chin type of season, right? So I think from that standpoint, but I do agree.
And it's something that we discussed quite a bit throughout the season and saying as much as, yeah, we can talk about tanking. We can talk about... Uh, we can talk about all these things going on with the team, but is he actually executing in terms of helping players develop and move forward? Let's welcome in our next guest on the able auctions hotline.
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Chapter 4: What was the reaction to Vancouver slipping to third in the draft lottery?
And, you know, one thing that, you know, Bick and I were just discussing on the whole idea of what happens with the head coach if a new general manager comes in. And based on what we saw with Adam Foote last year, does it make sense to make a coaching change now?
Or do you just kick that can down the road for one more year, considering you're probably still going to be struggling as a team for a couple of years?
Yeah, that's the mulligan for the incoming GM, right? It's not his guy, so to speak. So if he chooses to make a change at some point, well, it's somebody else hired him kind of thing. I think you touched on it right when I jumped on here that if you believe Foote is the right guy to develop these young guys that are coming in, then by all means.
But if he's not the guy for that, then you have to make the switch right away.
As a player, is that because you're going out there and playing the games in a situation of like, well, we kind of know where this is going because you can see if you're winning or losing. If you're losing, you know, eventually the coach is going to get fired. Like, is that difficult to kind of get motivated in that scenario then?
No, because you're not playing for the coach. You're playing for yourself and your team. And you're playing to win. When the team isn't performing, chances are the players that are on the team are not good enough.
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Chapter 5: Should the Canucks prioritize best player available or positional need in the draft?
So you're almost grasping at the last straw as well. Some of these players, obviously some of them are secured in long-term deals and all these things. But if you're the worst team in the league, you're there for a reason. And it's not just that you were unlucky last year. It's because... players on the team aren't good enough.
And then we're looking for new players to come in and move this team in the right direction.
Yeah, and I think ultimately when we talk about putting the new management team into place, and we'll see what happens. I mean, Evan Gold's in the conversation. So is Ryan Johnson. It seems like based on the stuff that we've heard and the reporting that Evan Gold could be the top candidate.
If you're thinking about building out a front office, what skill set do you think is the most important thing? Having somebody who understands the cap, culture, player evaluation. What are some things in that regard that you think they have to include in the front office?
Yeah, I think this is a case where there's not one person that has all these boxes checked.
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Chapter 6: How does coaching impact a team's performance during a rebuild?
So you need somebody who can delegate, somebody who can go out and then find smarter people in those areas and then hire them to help out. It's not a one-man business. Yeah, there is one general manager, but... It's a team effort up there as well in the front office. So you need somebody who can delegate, who's not afraid to hand off tasks that maybe somebody else is a little better equipped at.
But again, obviously, you need somebody who is in the scouting, rebuilding, who's been through that right now, somebody who's done it before,
preferably from the ground up because you're not coming in here and we're just looking at somebody who can kind of get this team the last little bit over to become a stanley cup contender no like we need to re-revamp just about everything uh from top to bottom like when when a team an organization goes through what has gone through here over the last couple years from
We could potentially see ourselves as a Stanley Cup contender three, four years ago. Maybe down the line, we had a couple of players to this core we have and we're right there teetering. And then it just blew up. So I think it's fair to say that you need some new fresh faces in just about every position now to come in and take a new whack at this.
Just going back to the coaching thing for a second, is that unfair to the players as far as like the development aspect of it all too? Or is it just kind of an understanding of the business of like, yeah, this happens?
The coach is getting fired?
Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What factors should be considered when building a front office for the Canucks?
Or if he stays on and is that unfair to the players for their own personal development?
Not if he can make them better. That's the main thing here. If Foote is the guy who can turn these two first-rounders you're drafting here in a couple of months, preferably the second-rounders as well, into legitimate hockey players, one of them into a difference maker, then you can say he's well worth keeping him. Can he continue and develop the players that are on the roster now?
Can he get more out of the veterans? That's what you're looking at in him when you're evaluating him in terms of whether or not you're bringing him back or cutting him loose. Because again, everybody gets evaluated and everybody gets evaluated based on what they bring to the table, whether it's a coach or scout, general manager or coach. or you name it.
It's a performance-based industry, and then we're looking for results. So if you're the scout and you're pointing at these players, but none of those players really turn out, well, maybe you need to look around for a different job. Whereas if you're the one that are pegging these guys and all of a sudden they turn out to be players, then by all means.
So it's no different whether you're a head coach or wherever you are. We need to see results.
Yeah, absolutely.
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Chapter 8: How can the draft lottery system be improved for better fairness?
And I think, you know, one thing that's became very crystallized this week was Jim Rutherford coming out and saying that he is going to be stepping aside. And once they get their new management team together, he'll slide over to an advisor role and be an alternate governor and not necessarily even work out of Vancouver anymore.
How do we evaluate or how do we, I'd say, summarize the job that Jim Rutherford did in Vancouver over the years?
Based on where we are right now, not great. Again, the team had a lot of pieces when they came in. Did they find pieces around these cast-offs from other teams? And we can name Joshua... Shearwood and these players, did they draft some players that came in? Yes. But again, this team is not where we thought it was going to be when they took over.
So again, something went wrong somewhere along the line and we know there were some issues in the dressing room. But again, it's a little frustrating. Again, It's hard to say because we've been we've been kind of screaming for this for a while now that we want to rebuild. And now we're in a rebuild.
Did we think we were going to be here a couple of years ago when we had all these young up and comers, Western goalies stacked in the middle, down centers and all those things? So it's like it. How we got to this point is probably you come back to management and then decisions that were made, players that were traded, not traded. Ability to keep players is somewhat out of their hand.
And here I'm obviously alluding to Quinn Hughes. It's not their fault if he doesn't want to stay here. Would he have stayed here if they would have turned them into a perennial powerhouse? Maybe, but we don't know. But there are definitely the debacle in the dressing room, the decision to keep some, trade others, and then what it turned into. That's a tough sell.
Part of the rebuild process is you need some lottery luck. Tuesday didn't go that way. What was your reaction to the lottery?
Typical, typical. It's one of those things where you obviously got your fingers crossed that it's finally your time. And then it doesn't happen. It's one of those things where, yeah, you can shake your head and then move on and you're going to get a great player regardless. Now you're just at the mercy of seeing whoever picks before you and then you move forward.
Lots of great players are drafted third overall. So no reason why they can't find one there as well.
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