Chapter 1: What are the Vancouver Canucks' current challenges?
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Very good. All right. Now joining us in studio here. What? You did a great job. I know. Landon's laughing at me. Now joining us in studio, as mentioned, from Sportsnet, Sportsnet 650, former NHL player.
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Chapter 2: What were the top moments of the Canucks' season?
He's our pal, Landon Ferraro. What's going on, man?
Nothing. I'm laughing because that was one of the more professional ad reads I've heard you do in our year and a bit. Thanks, buddy. And you have to be at their best at some point. Today, it all aligns.
You have to be at your best in some way. It feels like that's my mission statement. The conversation we're going to be having about the Canucks today, right? It's like, hey, you went back to back. It had to happen eventually.
But I do have one other question. Has there always been music playing in the background during your ad reads at the start?
Like with lyrics? Well, that's the only one that we have with lyrics. Okay. Because it's a Fleetwood Mac knockoff. Fleetwood Mac knockoff?
No, I don't know why I stumbled there. But yeah, it's a Fleetwood Mac knockoff. And I don't know why. I'm like, have I never paid attention enough?
Most of the other songs don't have lyrics.
That one, for some reason, is special. That is special.
Yeah, it's very special. And maybe that's why it got him, it got Drance in the zone.
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Chapter 3: How did the Chicago Blackhawks mishandle Connor Bedard's draft?
You asked me what we were going to talk about, and I was like, let's find out when the segment starts.
Apparently, we're talking about Drance's ad reads.
But one thing I do know, but I wanted to talk about, we mentioned it and talked about it in the first segment as well. Curtis Douglas scores his first NHL goal. And I brought up the point. I mean, really, when you think about this season, that's got to be a top five. Does feel good moment for the Canucks.
Curtis Douglas now has as many NHL goals as I have professional ad reads.
Yeah.
we didn't celebrate quite as hard as this team nor should we have it's not as cool and hold on i didn't say it's the first time that everything's come together i'm just saying the first time with me in here enough half the time there's like the oh i've got the ad read to do and then you say you save it after that thank you but you're on it from the start i was yeah i'm i'm getting better prepared i'm evolving as a broadcaster anyway curtis douglas
He wanted that one. His teammates were stoked for him. What a great moment.
It's the best, right? Like, any time that a guy that plays that role...
gets his first goal or you know his goal in the season because again like for a lot of these guys if they have an unbelievable year they have like three or four goals yeah right like it's really really hard to score and you know seeing his reaction and the poor guys having to go into the happy hug they were so excited to go in there after and celebrate with him but you're taking like forearm shivers to the face because he's so excited
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Chapter 4: What mistakes should the Canucks avoid from the Blackhawks' experience?
Even if you're trying to be the cool guy and hold it together, like you said, it's, it's impossible, right? Like it's, I remember scoring mine and... Like, the elation right away. And...
before I even got back to the bench to do like the flyby, I'm already thinking about like my first goal in the WHL and injuries, surgeries, like all these things that, you know, Curtis Douglas was drafted in 2018 by the Leafs thinking that I'm going to get to play for the Leafs. And then before you know it, you're traded and you're moved around.
Like you think one thing and then all of a sudden that's gone and you're like, is this even going to happen? And you could, I mean, he said it, he's like, when he gave his little talk after the game, when he got the, the player of the game, you know, just like, I didn't know if this was going to happen. And it's a, as much as he's making a joke, like that's a legitimate fear.
Like, I don't know if I'm ever going to score and to make it to the level and not be able to put one in, I couldn't even imagine that not regret because you were clearly trying, but like just thinking about that would be really, really tough.
The goal was set up by a shot wide. From Kirill Kudryavtsev, who was playing his first game. And I'm curious to get your thoughts on how he performed. I mean, he played about 15 minutes. He actually wasn't all that protected. I mean, there's only so much you can do on the road anyway. But he spent, like, very little time against the paling line. It was a steady diet of Granlund and Leo Carlson.
And I thought those minutes looked a lot more secure than some of the minutes from other Canucks defense pairs today. Why did it take us so long to see him? What should they do going forward with this guy?
I think he would have played way... I don't want to say way more games, but he would have played 15 games this year for sure, but he had some injuries down in Abbotsford, so that definitely pulled him back. To me, I remember watching the training camp last year, and like a lot of people, when there was exhibition games, you're like, what is this player? Where did he come from? And
Then doing the whole run in Abbotsford, like, I forget the number now, but he went, like, I want to say 30-ish games in a row not being a minus player. And that's through playoffs, the stretch run down it. And he was playing big minutes. Like, you know, that's a plus minus is a dumb stat a lot of the time.
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Chapter 5: What is the current state of the Canucks' front office?
But you can't make it that long just getting lucky, right? And the way that his offense was building, like he's someone to me, if he's 6'2", he's in the NHL as a full-timer already. As he, much like Linus Carlsen, where I've talked about how at the American League level, the NHL level, like he's the exact same player. His game doesn't change.
Whether he wants to or not, this is who he is as a player. Kudryazov is very much the same. When he is playing with better players that are in the right spots and ready for all of that, he makes really good pop plays. He reads plays well. He's not the biggest guy, but he also doesn't get run over a lot on four checks. He understands how to manipulate his body and make the first pass.
I think he's a really good player. I think that he's shown... definitely that he deserves like a decent look next year um especially with where they're at but to me like there's there's a player there there really is we've talked a lot about the rarity of the profile on this program over the years right sam gerrard
just had to be bundled with a second round pick for the Colorado avalanche to move his contract. And like, he's good. Matt Greslick would be the other one. He had what? 35 assists last year for the Pittsburgh penguins. And is he in the league?
I think he is, but like, there was no interest.
There's never like, he was like a late August, early September signing. Like, He's a player type that just no one values, which is non-elite point producer, sub-six-foot lefty. It's like the least probable playoff type in the league.
And yet, while all of that is true in recognizing that, I think there's a real chance, based on what we saw from him in the Calder Cup playoffs last year, especially in comparison with Mancini, what we saw from him last night, what we've seen from him in the preseason, that
Of Vancouver's U23 defensemen, he might be the one that I'd trust the most if I actually had to play a guy in matchup minutes among all of those guys.
By a lot in the short term. Yeah, I'm right with you. To me, he plays like a man's game already in the sense of there's no extras. He will never try to make the pretty play.
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Chapter 6: How do accountability issues affect the Canucks' performance?
He makes the hard... play in front of him. It's not the easy out, but he realizes that he isn't the best skater. He isn't the best... Like, all of it. But he realizes that he reads the play well. He's good positionally. He's got a great stick. He can poke a puck off, grab it, make one quick pass. Good. I don't have to touch it again. Right? Like, that, to me...
is a guy that understands what he is. And without those injuries, again, I really feel like he would have played 15-ish games this year. But it is tough. When you don't do anything that is flashy... Like Ty Mueller, who's come in and done just fine as well. Like those are two players that don't do anything flashy, don't grab your eye.
But when you really focus and watch them, Ty Mueller makes a ton of really good, smart plays all over the ice. Like, he's able to make them move and kind of get it. And Kudryazov is kind of the same in that sense. But it's hard to find your way up the ladder in a depth chart situation when you are that.
Yeah. The difference, though, is as a forward, like, I need you to do something beyond being a smart player. Like, you need to produce. You need to hit. Yeah.
you need to be able to kill penalties for me like i need you like this is one of my issues i would say with teddy bluger like bluger to me is a is kind of a i know he kills penalties but he and i know he had a big goal so this is gonna sound silly to fans he's he's produced this season but the truth is is that the team doesn't score at a high rate when he's on the ice like he doesn't help you manufacture offense that shouldn't be controversial even though he's
sort of filled the box score over the course of this season um doesn't hit he's not like a face off ace you know like he's a good pro don't get me wrong but there's not Mueller's smaller than that, not really a natural center, hasn't produced at an auspicious rate at any level, doesn't have physical value, doesn't profile as a defensive stopper.
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Chapter 7: What strategies can the Canucks implement for a successful rebuild?
It's like, I just don't know what he does. Whereas at least with Kudryavsev, I think like lefty Stetcher kind of thing, like a lefty Jordan Spence. Now, it's a rare player type. It's not a player type we see a lot, but it's like can help you transition defensively.
is in the right positions can maybe not get completely flattened against tough minutes I know how to use that I just think it's different when you're like the subtle guy if you're a defenseman yeah and I'm not arguing that like the only reason I brought him up is this is the fact that they don't do anything that like a single play that you're gonna be sitting in your seat and you're like whoa who is that yeah yeah right like that's super that's not gonna happen but
But again, for when you're looking at a team that's just entering a rebuild and you have a guy like Kudryatsev that isn't your stereotypical, like, I want that guy in my top six for defense. And you have William, Philander, Pettersson, Mancini, Mineo down in Abbotsford. Like, you have a bunch of defensemen now that
well, you're going to get surprised by one of them, hopefully more than one of them. And all of a sudden, maybe Kudryatsev comes in next year, comes to camp, and is undeniable that, like, no, I'm going to be the 6'7 defenseman. Like, I deserve the shot. That's great.
All that means is now you have more capital to maybe move a young piece somewhere else to fill another spot of a young piece that you need. Like that's how good rebuilds work is guys you weren't expecting to be part of your plan come in and steal a spot. And then that big piece that you were really excited about doesn't seem as big anymore, but it's big to someone else.
Mm hmm.
I think it's going to be fascinating to see how they use him next year, because as you said, right, they've got Booyahm, Bielander, DPD, probably, I mean, Mancini signed that two-year extension, right?
Yeah, although that hasn't stopped them from trading.
No, but at least he's going to get a shot. No, I would think.
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Chapter 8: How can the Canucks improve their organizational culture?
Because he's probably a lot closer to a finished product in some ways than these guys. Maybe you can even use him as like a stabilizer on a pair with Mancini, right? Or a stabilizer on a pair with Wielander.
The one that just instantly pops into my head is why can't he do P.O. Joseph's job for next year, right? Like you put the younger guy in there and they have a rotation that's going not set in stone, but knowing that you're not going to let a kid just sit there, but you make sure he gets in, but I almost guarantee that he's going to get in and it's going to be really hard to take him out.
Like, I really do think that, but perfect.
right like make guys have to fight to get in the lineup and like it keeps when you're not winning it keeps a hunger in you more of honestly your ego of trying to prove to yourself that you're better than the other guy that you might be best friends with that you go to lunch or go to lunch with every day after practice but even when you're sitting there you're thinking like i love this guy like he's probably gonna be my wedding i'm gonna steal his job
It is a fact, though. And so have that. I want more of that fighting within, in a good sense. We're trying to move past it.
Let's pick different words. The inner competition, for sure.
The inner competition. I want more riffs on the team. We haven't got enough riffs.
Well, yeah, you know, even a rift can be fine if it's channeled competitively, you know, like it's out of respect.
Totally, totally fine.
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