Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What insights does Jannik Hansen share about the NHL Draft Lottery?
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Yeah, my pleasure. I'm excited to say the least. Whether or not it's an excitement that's going to get disappointed or relieved, we'll get to see.
Yeah, because I'm just thinking, I mean, from a player's perspective, I'm guessing you're not paying too much attention to the lottery while you're an active player, right? It's kind of just in the background for you if your team is involved in it.
One year I did. One year. All right. When we could have the opportunity to draft, was it Matthews? I think it would have been Matthews, yeah. We were lined up to, if we get third overall there, like it's one of the Finns. Theoretically, you're hoping maybe a Patrick Laine could fall for you or fall to you kind of thing.
And knowing those type of players, like Matthews was obviously a little bit of a longer shot, but like if you get a Patrick Laine, it's somebody who... could step in the following year right away and make your team better. But that's the only time where when we've drafted late or not even the first round, there's no impact.
It might be somebody who comes down the line, but that's not something you really pay attention to.
Yeah, you followed it once in 2016 and immediately regretted it as the Canucks dropped to fifth that year. But it is interesting this year, right, because... The year you mentioned, right, it's Austin Matthews, and he had so much hype and was obviously extremely productive and has had a very good career coming out of that.
You look at the last couple of years, and Macklin Celebrini and Matthew Schaefer, neither of them had the hype levels of a Bedard or a McDavid or even an Austin Matthews, but both of them have come in and almost kind of immediately changed how we look at their teams. And I'm not saying Gavin McKenna is going to do that, but...
I think it goes to show that winning the lottery in any year is a big deal, and you always at least have a chance that that prospect comes in and kind of immediately lights the world on fire.
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Chapter 3: How do Manny and Caleb's connections impact the Canucks' coaching decisions?
It's not somebody you have to go out and convince. It's not somebody you go out and overpay. No, it's somebody who's homegrown, homegrown in quotation, in the sense that you draft them, you bring them in, and you have a little bit of time. But like, yeah, one is not enough. unless it might be McDavid, then one might be enough to change the direction here. But he still had Dreisaitl as well.
So it's like you need more, but it's a start. And that's where the excitement comes from. It's hopefully a prospect who can come in and provide another element in terms of William, Willander, DPD, these young players, the new generation, if you will, that will form the next nucleus of players what's hopefully a Canucks team that are on a different trajectory than we are today.
And I understand it's not something that happens after the draft. It's going to take more time, but it's the beginning, so to speak.
Yannick, there's a couple other subplots to the draft lottery that I'm going to be watching really closely tonight from a Canucks perspective, and I'm curious to get your thoughts on them. First off, in a world where the Canucks drop to three, or even if they win the second overall pick, if they win the second draw,
Caleb Malhotra, the son of your former teammate Manny Malhotra, Canucks AHL head coach down in Abbotsford, is going to be heavily considered by Vancouver with one of those picks. From your experience, would that in any way influence or should it in any way influence whether or not the club... names Manny their NHL head coach?
Like the idea of a father-son duo, coach and player in the NHL, how complicated would that be from a player's perspective?
Yeah, from an organization, I'd be a little bit concerned. And I probably wouldn't do it. From their perspective, I would not want it. Manny and Caleb in this point is going to get scrutinized. You risk alienating one part against the other. Let's say Manny gets hard on a couple players or whatever.
Now they're going to be sulking, complaining about the coach at the same time Caleb is sitting there. unless Caleb is lights out, he puts up a hundred points. He'll have to answer to, or you, is this ice time given to you because you're a dad? It's one of those things where it's,
maybe down the line when when he's established you can do it kind of what they had in in winnipeg but right off the bat here change the direction i'd be very hesitant to do that whether or not he's a third overall draft pick if they fall to that spot i don't know i see the same list that you guys do i know vancouver is probably
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Pierre Dorion's candidacy for the Canucks GM position?
um now you have to look at well is manny then not the guy because again i don't think you can overlook the best player available if it's a ford you're looking for um because you're trying to save yourself on the coaching side then maybe you're going in a different direction at that point
Yeah, I think there's going to be real conversations for Caleb as high as second overall, but Stenberg also has a chance to put those to rest with a strong performance at the World Championship. So still a lot of road to run in this process, Yannick. The other thing that I'm going to be watching tonight is Toronto. Toronto keeps their pick if it lands in the top five.
Florida probably keeps their pick if it's top 10. But where exactly those teams fall is really going to be fascinating to me, in part because we don't often see win-now teams this high in the draft order. And that feels like a pretty interesting opportunity for a rebuilding team like Vancouver.
Yeah, it is. Because, again, like...
florida the only reason they are where they are is because of again kachuk and barkov barely participated this year um so it's almost like a cheat of them getting like let's say they they move up to i don't know whatever it is they move up and you get an impact player right away um they one of the the defensemen who theoretically could step in shortly and play in the nhl could could fall to them in that sense and again
it's an embarrassment of riches so to speak but but that's what happens and and sometimes teams get lucky Toronto on the other side obviously I don't know what they hope for today because you know you also don't want to be giving up those two first rounders yeah the following years like that that might be a harder pill to swallow to to be honest so like yeah if you fall just outside and now you give up uh what is it six seven eight ninth overall draft pick or whatever it ended up being
might be better, but that player who's going to come in is potentially a very big impact player here. So it could end up hurting and then biting a couple of teams where you look and like, you know what, we need to get over the top in this playoff. And then two years later, oh boy, it looked like a tough trade.
Yeah, I think the other interesting wrinkle for where the Canucks pick is going to be what the roster looks like for next season, right? And if they get first overall and they're taking McKenna, we all know he's going to be here, right? He's not going back to the NCAA. Probably the same with Stenberg if that's the pick at two. I think if they're at three...
Yeah, and if it's Malhotra or one of the defensemen, I think it's at least more of a question. In that situation, how would you kind of weigh the decision, Yannick, of, okay, we've got this guy who's not a first overall, so he's not a stone-cold lock to be in the NHL, but there's an argument and we're not a very good team.
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Chapter 5: What ethical considerations arise during the NHL Draft Lottery?
But Fleury and Crosby, it's where you're bringing them in together. I know if you stagger them, the contract situation plays out a little bit differently. But again... If you bring in a difference maker right away, maybe this difference maker is going to come in and play on a losing team because he's not going to pull this team into a playoff spot.
But is he good enough to push the team out of the bottom standings and into that bottom
uh 10th overall draft pick instead maybe if if the player is good enough so that that's where it's like maybe you you bite the bullet here and again you the player got to be on board because this player is dead set on going to the to the nhl he has the skills has the abilities um but long term it might be better for the franchise not to you got to have some conversation with again families and an agent around this player to see what's better for for the long-term future for for the for the organization here
In conversation with Yannick Hansen here at Canucks Talk Sportsnet 650. And I want to turn our attention to the Stanley Cup playoffs a little bit, Yannick. And we're going to see tomorrow Montreal get started against the Buffalo Sabres in round two. And of course, the Habs win that seven game series against Tampa, you know, roundly outshot against the Lightning in game seven.
But they find a way to get that win for a relatively young team with not a ton of playoff experience. Although I know they do have some guys that were there for the Stanley Cup final run, but a lot of young players as well. For a team like Montreal, what can a series win like that over a real veteran Tampa Bay Lightning team do for them and their mentality in this next round?
Yeah, it's a confident boost. There's no question about that. And I'd say, again, Buffalo obviously finished higher, but like in terms of playoff experience and acumen, like Montreal is probably looking at Buffalo and said that this team might be
a little bit better suited to us in terms of their experience this we're on an even footing that there's no I shouldn't say no I don't know but there might not be a whole lot of Stanley Cup winners on on Buffalo I might miss a couple players here and there but Tampa, they're loaded with winners. They've been through it. They've done it.
They've been in these situations where Buffalo, let's see when they run into a little bit of headwind here. They did not have a lot of that in the first one. How will they respond to adversity where you know if you get Tampa on a little bit of their heels, they've been through this before. So it's not like it's going to get them thrown off curve.
Kind of feels like the Carolina Hurricanes, after years of sort of knocking on the door and things not breaking their way, it just kind of feels like the Red Sea is parting for them, as it were, here, Yannick. At long last, it feels like things are beginning to bounce their way.
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Chapter 6: How does Kevin Woodley assess the Canucks' future draft strategies?
There's no question about that. Carolina was at the top of the standing and they lived up to those expectations through the first games here. They still got to do it, but there is something a little bit different about this team. I know Stan Colvin is not...
uh the the star of the league in the sense that a lot of other teams have um but i'll say that they they look like they have a couple more game breakers than they've had in the past where they relied on a four-line team just uh what do you say quantity over quality sometimes and it works out in the regular season but when push comes to shop they've been kind of uh
short sticked a little bit and lost out to teams that had players that were just a little bit better. And sometimes if you don't have the best player in the series and the series is teetering, it can be hard to come through.
Circling back to Buffalo, I've got to ask you, there's a patron saint player of our radio program on the Buffalo Sabres.
I just got to ask, do you have any impressions of Chilliwack native Zach Benson, who obviously has become the talk of social media in the wake of his game seven antics with Charlie McAvoy, in addition to the goal that sort of held up as the insurance marker in that game six win for Buffalo over the Bruins?
Again, I did not see a whole lot of that. I saw the action there. I don't know a whole lot of sack either, so it's tough for me to respond to that one. But again, it's always nice when you see homegrown talent, I would say local boys in it. So again, it's somebody you can cheer for if you know them, if you cross paths. But again, for me personally, I know next to nothing.
Buffalo is not a team I follow very closely in any way. So like I say, even the series they played against Boston, it was down to highlight and like, oh, McAvoy is going to get a hearing here. So I watched what happened, but that's about it.
Well, I did want to ask about Benson, but also kind of tied into what you were saying about Logan Stankoven. And of course, he's playing on that line with Jackson Blake as well in Carolina. And, you know, Stankoven, I think, is listed like five, eight. Zach Benson is listed right around there. Jackson Blake's listed like 511. So under six feet.
And we're so used to, you know, the line in the playoffs is you have to have that size. You have to have that physicality. And what those three guys have in common isn't their size, but it's their mentality, right? Like they have the desire to get to the inside and play that playoff style game for a team like the Canucks in a rebuilding phase.
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Chapter 7: What are the potential impacts of the NHL Draft Lottery results on the Canucks?
Yeah, it's always a copycat league. Teams that are successful, you look at why they're successful and look at the players that are successful, and then you try to emulate. Again, it's no different than when Brendan Gallagher entered the league. People looked at him too low.
He's small, but you look at the tenacity, Roussel before him that had success as well in a smaller role, but these players that aren't necessarily the bigger players, but they come in with a...
with it with a ton of heart um a little bit of skill to back it up and then they can push through so um again these are players that succeeded this or excel at this time of year because they have they have a little bit of bite to their game and that's what you need come springtime because the the tempo amps up um the revs tend to be a little bit more lenient with the with the whistles and so if you're not ready to to push and get pushed uh then you're gonna have a hard time succeeding
Yannick, always appreciate the time, and hopefully we'll be talking about the Canucks having the first overall pick when we chat next week. Sounds good. Take care. That is Yannick Hanson. As always, a presentation on Sportsnet 650 of the Magnuson family's Metro Ford in beautiful Port Coquitlam.
It's Canada's largest volume medium truck dealership, Metro Ford, where the lower mainland buys their Fords. And, I mean, we should talk just a little bit about the draft lottery because it does go today at four. And, of course, there is the Sportsnet 650 watch party at Shark Club, Canucks Central, Satin Bick. We'll be broadcasting live.
You'll be able to hear the draw on the station, so you'll know instantly exactly where the Canucks are picking. And look. Far be it for me to downplay how awesome it would be for the Canucks to draft Gavin McKenna. Because I have been the chief. Yeah, he's your guy. He's my guy. So I can't do it, really. Like, come on. I want them to draft Gavin McKenna. He's your Zach Benson.
Although, that's interesting. You might be right there. I will say.
Hopefully they don't pass on him.
Hopefully they don't do to you what they've done to me.
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Chapter 8: How does the Canucks' current roster influence their draft decisions?
There was like a concerted group effort amongst me, producer Dom, and producer Elon over the last week to like dive into the Canucks Talk archives and find... I helped. Okay, sorry. And you. And find the first... Did I not? No, you did. You did. You're right. You're right. And find the first mention of Gavin McKenna on the show. And to date, we've been unable to do it, which is really sad.
Why am I a five-year-old toddler, by the way? I'm like, I helped. I'm doing my part. Yeah, no, it sucks that we couldn't find it. And we couldn't find it.
We've been talking about him forever. I'm almost positive, and maybe I'm wrong because I scrubbed through a bunch of these episodes and couldn't find it, but I'm almost positive the first mention would have been November 2022. So that's almost four years ago. because that was the Conor Bedard draft season.
And we spent a lot of time talking about how the Canucks should probably be taking and positioning themselves for Conor Bedard. And eventually I came up with the like smart Alec take of actually they should be tanking for four years from now. So they can draft this kid, Gavin McKenna, who's like come up and started to play games in the dub just after he turned 14 or sorry, turned 15.
So that's where it came from. And it's been like, again, almost four years I did. And this might be relevant to,
for next season discover the first mention of Landon DuPont on our show or at least the one of the first because we asked and this was like a year later because then the next year in 2023 I was like okay I got to find the new Gavin McKenna and it was Landon DuPont and we asked Books about it one time and like poor Books was like I have no idea what you're talking about why would I know about this kid he hadn't even played in the dub yet he was like why would I know about this guy why are you asking me about him
Well, I mean, we've got that in the holster at least, but now it's a running bit, right?
I mean, yes.
Nickel, right? That's our, that's our new guy. Yeah. Although I do, you know, we might've brought about the demise of the Canucks by hyping up Gavin McKenna beginning in 2022. That might've been like on us.
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