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Canucks Talk

Trying Something New

27 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent developments are there in the Canucks' head coaching search?

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29.613 - 59.32 Jamie Dodd

What's up? Welcome to Canucks Talk here on Sportsnet 650. I'm Jamie Dodd. My co-host is Thomas Drance. Drance covers the team for the Athletic as well. We're broadcasting live from the Kintec studio. Step strong with orthotics and footwear from Kintec 650. 650 is the Dunbar Lumber text line. Abbreviated show today. No guests on the show. We're on now at 109. Thanks to the Blue Jays and Marlins.

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59.52 - 59.88 Jamie Dodd

50 minutes.

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59.9 - 60.741 Thomas Drance

Going a little long.

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Chapter 2: How is Henrik Sedin influencing the Canucks' rebuilding strategy?

60.761 - 61.482 Thomas Drance

50 good minutes.

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61.602 - 66.227 Jamie Dodd

50 really good minutes is what we've got. Well, not really, because we're going to take a break somewhere in there.

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66.788 - 69.631 Thomas Drance

That's my motto when I go to the gym. 45 good minutes.

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69.651 - 85.287 Jamie Dodd

I've got 50 good minutes, and only five of them will be good. Yeah, the Jays and Marlins found a way to make a 2-1 game in the pitch clock era take over three hours, which is tough to do, but they did it. Kudos. Find something you love as much as the Miami Marlins love making boneheaded outs on the base pass.

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85.267 - 93.229 Thomas Drance

Girardi, the old Yankees manager. Joe. Joe Girardi. Remember how he used to manage his pitchers, his bullpen? And it would take hours.

94.011 - 101.031 Jamie Dodd

There was nothing like from about 2002 to maybe like 2009.

Chapter 3: What are the implications of patience in the Canucks' team-building philosophy?

101.011 - 112.5 Jamie Dodd

Yankees, Red Sox. You're like bare minimum four and a half hours here. It was such a commitment. It's going to be like 10-7. They're each going to use six pitchers. There's going to be like a brawl or something. It's going to take forever.

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112.64 - 125.569 Thomas Drance

So when I lived in Toronto growing up too, right? There was... holiday starts because holiday ran so efficient. Yes. And obviously you also just wanted to watch Roy holiday. Of course. But holiday starts were like the must hits for me. Yeah.

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Chapter 4: What challenges does Vancouver face with veteran trades and player development?

125.589 - 149.29 Thomas Drance

And I had that out two hours. It's great. Yeah. And I used to have the old Toronto star pass to where I was able to go to every home game except Canada day and opening day. And it was all holiday starts. Like every five days, basically, I'd go. And then holiday, ultimately, RIP, of course, was replaced for that for me with Mark Burley. Burley starts like when I was in my mid-20s. Burley starts.

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149.33 - 155.92 Thomas Drance

I'd go to every Burley start in the summer because it was like perfect. Two and a half hours. Nice, clean game. Get in and out. Don't overstate.

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155.94 - 156.42 Jamie Dodd

You're welcome.

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Chapter 5: How does the Whiteboard segment analyze Vegas' performance in the Stanley Cup Final?

157.061 - 162.81 Jamie Dodd

All right. So anyways, no guests coming up, but 45 good minutes. And let's kick those off with the whiteboard.

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168.443 - 170.978 Unknown

All right, fellas, let's focus up.

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170.998 - 191.245 Jamie Dodd

It is your daily deep dive into what's up with the Canucks for today, May 27th. Start with the headline first. Still no news on the next Canucks head coach. We'll keep you posted if anything develops there with Manny Malhotra or any other candidate. But I do want to talk about some more commentary from Henrik Sedin this time.

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191.265 - 201.857 Jamie Dodd

Of course, one of the new co-presidents of hockey operations for the Vancouver Canucks. And both Henrik and Daniel have done plenty of media. And, of course, they did their first press conference. They talked to a lot of different people.

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202.097 - 208.417 Thomas Drance

I'm not... I don't want to do the thing that everyone expects me to do, which is declare victory for no reason.

Chapter 6: What trade speculation surrounds Jake DeBrusk and other players?

209.198 - 231.92 Thomas Drance

Okay. But the Sedin twins coming out is not just like rebuildists. Yes. But long term for the past 15 years, Henrik and Daniel Sedin have been among those in this market. who've been like, man, this team should really rebuild. This isn't working. That is a, you know, it's not a win for me personally, but it's a win for those of us that have wanted this team to prioritize the long-term, I think.

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231.98 - 240.178 Jamie Dodd

So just to set up the context for this, and this is, I'm going to read a quote here in a moment. Henrik Sedin speaking to our colleague Ian McIntyre. The piece is up at sportsnet.ca. I encourage you to go check it out.

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240.238 - 244.725 Thomas Drance

A lot of interesting. I'm glad he told iMac this specifically. Oh, it's fantastic. No, no.

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Chapter 7: What should Vancouver consider regarding potential veteran trades for draft picks?

245.146 - 249.453 Thomas Drance

Specifically, I'm glad he told iMac, hey, you know what? We've always thought we needed to rebuild.

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249.653 - 262.838 Jamie Dodd

And because one of the things that stood out to me when Henrik and Daniel and Ryan Johnson spoke to the media when they were hired was Henrik referencing... how important the vision that management's laid out to them was for them to take the job.

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263.219 - 278.713 Jamie Dodd

And they didn't really explain it at the time, but we have heard more about that, about how, hey, it's a rebuild, all of those things, management is committed. And this is more and maybe the most direct commentary on that. So I'll read the quote from Henrik Sedin. After Jim decided to take a step back, I think they were already ready to do a rebuild.

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279.114 - 293.203 Jamie Dodd

But we had a meeting and they told us, speaking of ownership, we had a meeting and they told us that they want to do it the right way. They were tired of missing the playoffs year after year while at the same time trying to win.

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293.183 - 310.22 Jamie Dodd

They wanted to have a fresh start and build from the ground up and put the care back into the crest where you get players that are proud to play for the city and have this city and team be a place where players want to play again. He goes on to say, when you step into that role, it's less stressful on a daily basis to try to win tomorrow.

310.261 - 319.45 Jamie Dodd

You try to do everything the right way, which in a way is hard, but there is a plan that you try to follow, which for me makes it a little bit easier. We believe in the plan. And we think it's doable if you do it the right way.

Chapter 8: What are the final thoughts on the Canucks' offseason plans and draft strategy?

319.47 - 341.037 Jamie Dodd

And again, speaking of ownership, so the they in this sentence is ownership. They were tired of missing the playoffs year after year while at the same time trying to win. And Trance, how many times in the pre-rebuild era of our show have we been having the rebuild discussion and whether it's, you know, on the crossover with Rick Dollywall? Do you remember the checklist? Yes. Oh, yes.

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341.318 - 356.701 Jamie Dodd

Or in our inbox, right? And the rebuttal is, well, I don't want to go X number of years of missing the playoffs. And my response was already, they're doing that. They're already missing the playoffs every year. That's happening without the rebuilding stuff. Yeah.

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356.721 - 376.913 Jamie Dodd

And to see it laid out like that by Henrik Sedin, of all people, who's now the co-president of hockey operations, like, hey, this thing where you're not building towards anything, but you're also missing the playoffs all the time. This sucks. Let's try something else. And at the core of it. That's so much of what people have wanted. Like this isn't working. Let's do something else.

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377.293 - 387.406 Jamie Dodd

It's such an easy message. It's incredible that it took this long for ownership to get on board with it, but I'm very happy that they have, let's put it that way. And I loved that how Hendrickson being laid it out.

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389.248 - 408.291 Thomas Drance

Yeah. I mean, it's a new day, right? Like it's a new day. The twins are clearly communicating that they want to commit to a long term process. Now, how deep that process goes. Yeah. And, you know, there's still questions.

408.351 - 425.053 Jamie Dodd

It's all like it's great that ownership told them when they hired him. Hey, this is what we want to do. It's not like that's legally binding. You know, ownership can change their mind at any point. Right. So it's it's good. It's a good start. The action has to back it up, and it's one thing to think that now. Will you think that a year from now, two years from now?

425.073 - 432.502 Jamie Dodd

Those are all totally legitimate questions. But it's also legitimate to note that this is 180 degrees different than anything we've heard before.

432.562 - 455.501 Thomas Drance

Yeah, I mean, you know, the thing I'd say, too, is the Danny Breer first two years in Philly, where... I think there was a lot of second guessing that you could very fairly do on some of the deals that were executed from a raw value perspective. It felt like they were 10% shy on a lot of the moves they made.

455.561 - 481.213 Thomas Drance

It kind of reeked of inexperience and I was pretty skeptical, but by the time the summer ended and you saw how much they'd done to tear down and reset and shed bad contracts and accumulate draft picks, it was like, yeah, it probably doesn't matter. You know, like the bigger picture matters so much more than the perfect value, the perfect trade along the way.

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