WTT: AI: Fundamentals, Valuation, and the Next Allocator Dilemma
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Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry
8 min
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2 chapters
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Why does the host feel disconnected from the AI investment landscape?
This, what Ted's thinking, AI, fundamentals valuation, and the next allocator dilemma, takes on a high-level assessment of AI companies as late-stage private winners prepare to go public and the next big challenge allocators face as a result. I'm sitting in my classroom in disbelief. Five years of training and value investing and a year and a half at business school led me to a class called Managing the Market Space. The old marketplace of revenues, margins, and cash flow driving shareholder value had suddenly been replaced by clicks and eyeballs. Shortly thereafter, I attended a wedding and sat next to someone working at a technology company. The business had just gone public, sporting a three billion dollar market cap and three million in revenue.
The more questions I asked, the more confused I became with the answers. Eventually, that recent warden graduate turned to me in frustration and said, You just don't get it. He was right. I couldn't see the future or understand the present. It was the spring of two thousand. A few months later, the dot-com valuation bubble burst, but the internet-powered economy roared on. Maybe I was proven right, or maybe I was early and wrong. That's what made the period so difficult to navigate. The enthusiasts were right about the technology, and the skeptics were right about prices. Here we are again with AI. AI is the next revolutionary technology and the centerpiece of every investment conversation. I won't pretend to know how the technology, business models, or capital markets will play out, but it's hard not to think about AI these days.
I tend to see the world through probabilities rather than certainties. Consistent with that thread, I see two sides of the AI discussion across investment prospects, winners and losers, and the next big allocator challenge.
How did the dot‑com bubble experience shape the host’s view of AI today?
Fundamentals versus prices. The AI supply chain is experiencing unprecedented adoption, revenue growth, and capital expenditure. The fundamentals of frontier models, compute, infrastructure, energy demand, and capital formation are off the charts. At the same time, the valuations of both public and private companies imply these trends will continue, creating unprecedented growth, returns on invested capital, and future profits. Two recent podcast guests capture the two sides of this debate. Gavin Baker from Atreides describes the AI revolution as one of the most extraordinary moments in the history of capitalism. He sees real demand constrained by the supply of watts and wafers, compelling returns from productivity gains, and a market that underestimates the durability of AI spending.
On the other hand, Rajiv Jayan from GQG is avoiding hyperscalers and AI-related businesses. He worries about the downside risk from massive capex without free cash flow follow-through, lack of pricing power, and extreme valuations. While he agrees that AI is a revolutionary technology, he's skeptical that today's business fundamentals justify today's prices. Both may Yeah. Much like the internet, AI may transform businesses and become ubiquitous throughout the global economy. But it's also possible that markets have already priced in a decade or two of progress, just as happened with Amazon and Microsoft in two thousand. Those companies ultimately fulfilled enormous expectations, but investors who bought before the bubble burst still endured years of disappointing returns.
The question isn't whether AI matters. It's how much of that future is already reflected in today's prices. Winners and losers. During the Internet boom, investors didn't have to distinguish winners from losers. Everything went up. The hard work started after the boom. Amazon became one of the most valuable businesses in history. Pets.com and hundreds of other online retailers vanished. The Internet transformed the economy while simultaneously destroying enormous amounts of capital. AI may prove similar. Today, capital is abundant for private AI companies at every stage and in every layer of the stack, models, infrastructure, applications, tooling, and services.
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