Cheques and Balances
National's KiwiSaver Changes: Good or Bad for Your Retirement? | Episode 502
24 Jun 2026
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Chapter 1: What are the proposed changes to KiwiSaver by the National Party?
We are back in your life and today the National Party has come out with a policy to try and win your vote. We're talking KiwiSaver changes, Michael.
Yeah, we are today. And this one, pretty timely. They came out earlier this week. And I tell you what, a lot of interest, a lot of heat, a lot of reaction. I know you did a post on my favorite social media network, which is LinkedIn. Follow me. I've got like 100 subscribers. Your DM's just popping in LinkedIn, eh? Yeah, I actually can't stand LinkedIn. But anyway.
And, mate, you copped a lot of flack, saying you liked the changes. And everyone came to you and be like, mate, you're a socialist. What are you doing?
Yeah, I did get called a fascist, a socialist.
They can't make up which one it is.
Yeah, there was a little bit in there. So we'll break it all down. Should we just jump straight into the changes one?
Yeah, go on then. All right, James. So run me through what they are. There's about five or six kind of headline points.
Yeah, let's see if I can remember them all. Our first one is mandatory contributions for all. I don't know how that works with business owners. The second is... is $1,500 into every baby's KiwiSaver account. That means every child will have a KiwiSaver open when they are born. Kickstarter.
Point number three is if you are on parental leave, the government will top up what your employer would have put into your KiwiSaver. Point number four, if you're over 65, your employer now legally would have to legally contribute to your KiwiSaver going forward.
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Chapter 2: How will mandatory contributions affect New Zealanders?
The government tells you what to do with your money. Yeah, for sure. I think what most people struggle to understand with this sort of thing, I'm sure the comment section will come for me, is that in the 1960s, we had seven workers to one retiree. By 2060, we're going to have two workers to one retiree.
We have an aging population, which by 2060, over 50% of our spend is going to be going to New Zealand superannuation and to healthcare. And the average Kiwi is retiring with $120,000, which is jackal. So if you're going, nobody's saving enough for retirement. And then we've got an aging population. Somebody has to do something.
Yeah. Super is not going to be around to save everyone's lives, right? Like it is not going to be at the same age, the same amount, not means tested. Like we simply can't afford that as a country. So I agree with the government stepping in here going, nah, like, We need to take some steps now to fix this. And I, to be honest, I see compulsory contributions as a bit of a baby step.
I'm like, it's not even going to help. Like, yeah, it'll help to a degree, especially for people who are just getting started now. But for a lot of people moving into retirement who haven't had compulsory contributions, they're still in a bit of a tight spot.
I love the YouTube-topia version of everybody being able to take care of themselves, but I just think the reality is everybody's going to end up with a bill if we don't do something.
Yeah, and unfortunately, we live in the real world. There will be some people who have sorted themselves out, but the majority of people definitely need some guidance on this. All right, James, so point two, what do you got?
So it was around parental leave. So obviously there is a gap between male and female KiwiSaver balancers. And most of that tends to happen around having kids, which is not really fair.
So the government has recognized that and being, hey, whatever your employer is putting into your KiwiSaver, we will put that into your KiwiSaver while you're on parental leave, which I think is just a good thing to do.
Yeah. And to be honest, I'm glad that the government, as a business owner, I'm glad that the government has picked it up and they're not making business owners pick it up while they're on mat leave. Yeah, again, I just think this makes a lot of sense. I can't really understand why people would push back on this.
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Chapter 3: What is the significance of the $1,500 KiwiSaver kickstart for newborns?
It's a different kettle of fish. Probably don't contribute to KiwiSafe. Oh, wait, the government's making you do it against your will. Maybe I don't like this. But the big thing is people are working longer. They're doing the same job. They should get the same remuneration. And obviously for people that are behind, it is good for them to get this extra money going.
I just think this is fair. You know, I don't understand, like, what is the difference between someone who's, you know, 65 years old versus 64 and 300 days, you know, like it just, there is no difference. This definitely seems like a fairness thing to me. So I really like this. And I think you're right. A lot of people are either choosing to work longer past 65 or have to work longer past 65.
So they should definitely receive the same entitlements as someone who's a little bit younger. Yeah. And then the last one that we kind of touched on there, James, is around those contributions getting up to 6% for the employee and 6% matched by the employer to get us more towards that kind of 12%, which is where Australia is at. What do you think of this?
I know it's not a new, new one, but, you know, they reiterated it.
Yeah. So obviously we're at three and a half and three and a half at the moment. April next year, we'll go to four and four. It's just the continuation of that. Essentially, like as a country, we're relatively poor. Yeah.
And the main difference between us and Australia, opposed to like a little bit of stuff in the ground, is that they have just a huge head start of us and way more money consistently going in to these superannuation funds. One means that the gap around retirement will be a lot less. A lot more people will be sold and actually not have to think that much about their retirement savings.
But then the other big point is, is these fund managers are going to have all of this cash over time to deploy. While a lot of it will go overseas, a reasonable chunk of it will stay local. They'll be looking for businesses to invest into, infrastructure projects to invest into. There's a tax benefit for them in terms of doing some things locally.
It shows much longer planning from the national party If you're thinking about it in the short term, they're taking money away from people, right? They're making their lives right now in a tough economy where things aren't going as they planned worse. This shows much like in a year, this isn't going to matter. Five years, this isn't going to matter.
10, 20, 30 years, it's going to make the country a much better place.
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Chapter 4: How does parental leave support impact KiwiSaver contributions?
I just don't think that should be in there. What do you reckon?
I agree. I think really it is just taking the money, giving more of it to the boomers, inflating house prices, making the whole thing worse. I get from an individual's perspective, they have that money, they can get onto the property ladder, but collectively as a country, it's not a good thing.
Nah, it's not. And that's why Australia won't do it. They won't let you take the self-management or your super out for that because they know it'll just bump up the house prices. And for everyone who's going, you're just pulling the ladder up behind you because you were able to do it and now you're saying that I can't, there is a way I think it could work.
Whereas if you have a 5% deposit loan at the moment sponsored by Kangaura, they underwrite the loan with an insurance policy. And on average... from my customers that I've seen is probably cost you about 1200 bucks, right? And it gets added on top of your loan. So it just gets capitalized to the loan. So if your loan's 600 grand, it'll be $601,200. So not a massive amount of money grand scheme.
And if we think about what a deposit is, it's just basically, if the loan falls over, it's an insurance policy for the bank that they're not going to lose money. You can actually just insure against that.
So you don't need a 20% deposit as a first home buyer and I think if they rolled that, the ability to get that insurance out to all first home buyers, you would be able to leave your money in KiwiSaver and you wouldn't need that 20% deposit for the first home.
So I think it can be achieved if people just think a little bit more laterally and look at the long term impacts of what it means when you take that money out.
Yeah, nice. There's probably two more that I would like to see. The first is the removal of the employer and the employer and just a straight percentage on top that is part of your package when you take on a salary.
the reason for that as opposed to my money your money it's just something that it happens like in australia i guess the tricky bit is that first step of how do you implement it because uh employers pick up all of the bill or employees take a pay cut like it's just a little bit messy yeah i think we yeah i agree but i think we're stuck with this you know like that's very difficult to unwind and it gets harder to unwind the larger the contributions become
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