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Chief Change Officer

#290 Lora Chow: Reveries from the Trading Floor to the Concert Hall — Part Two

Fri, 11 Apr 2025

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In Part 2, Lora walks us through the why behind her return to music full-time. From co-founding Virtuoso Fiesta to launching her album Reveries on Ivories, she shares how composition became her storytelling tool—and how she sees music not just as art, but as a way to build peace, shift perspectives, and maybe even fix broken systems.This isn’t a story about following your passion. It’s a story about building the courage to lead with it.Reveries on Ivories (New Album) by Lora ChowApple | Spotify | YouTube | AmazonKey Highlights of Our Interview:Why She Finally Left Finance“The market felt irrational. Music didn’t.” When external chaos pushes you inward.Starting a Movement (Not Just a Company)“We wanted to make classical music feel joyful—not stiff.” How Virtuoso Fiesta became a playground for artistic freedom.Composing for Change“Music connects people—across language, across class. That’s its superpower.” Why she writes music that talks back.AI, Creativity, and Human Touch“AI can help me transcribe. But it can’t feel what I feel.” How she uses tech without losing the soul.Belief Beats Strategy“You need pen, paper, and confidence.” The advice that stuck—and how she teaches herself to trust her intuition._______________________Connect with us:Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Lora Chow (YouTube Channel)  --Chief Change Officer--Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself.Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligencefor Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep,Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts.EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist.18 Million+ All-Time Downloads.80+ Countries Reached Daily.Global Top 1.5% Podcast.Top 10 US Business.Top 1 US Careers.>>>170,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<<

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Chapter 1: Why did Lora Chow leave her finance career?

11.431 - 55.926 Vince Chan

Hi, everyone. Welcome to our show, Chief Change Officer. I'm Vince Chen, your ambitious human host. Our show is a modernist humility for change progressives in organizational and human transformation from around the world. Today's guest is Nora Chow, fellow Yale alum, former fund manager, and someone whose journey mirrors mind in more ways than one.

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58.22 - 86.359 Vince Chan

We are both from Hong Kong, shaped by the same family and societal expectations to chase money, business, and brand names. We followed the expected path, elite schools, big careers, but eventually stepped away from the weight of titles, status, and what we were supposed to want. In this two-part series,

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87.239 - 131.248 Vince Chan

Nora shares how she returned to music, launched her new album, Referees on Ivory, and built a life that sounds like her, not someone else's script. From headphones to harmonies, this is a story about dropping the labels and choosing the nooks that matter. Let's get into it. The way I see it, for a period of time, your head led the way.

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132.509 - 172.128 Vince Chan

You let your heart stay in the background, not ignored, but quieter, still beating, still alive. You didn't silence it, but you asked it to wait while you focused on logic, on what made sense at the time. And then as life changed, maybe your heart changed too, and you decided it was the time to let it lead a little more, to let it take center stage.

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174.369 - 212.83 Vince Chan

You are still the same Nora with sharp analytical skills, skills you developed in finance, skills you will still need as you undertake new endeavors. You are just choosing to use those skills differently now to support something more personal, more meaningful. So while you've shifted into using your artistic side to help transform lives, I see it as you finally giving your heart the spotlight.

213.852 - 217.181 Vince Chan

But your head is still right there, backing it up.

219.099 - 247.633 Lora Chow

Yeah, yeah, that's very true. And I feel that I focus more on my heart because my mindset has changed. I focus more on like the spiritual growth actually over the last couple of years. And I realized that a lot of things, if we believe that it will happen, it will actually happen. And I guess starting Virtuoso Fiesta in 2023 was like a dream came true for me and Ruda.

248.093 - 261.788 Lora Chow

And we realized that dreams can come true. And there are a lot of supporting community that can help us realize our dreams. And that's why I think I should follow my heart.

Chapter 2: What is Virtuoso Fiesta and its mission?

263.664 - 270.37 Vince Chan

So your music venture, what's the name of it again? And what does it mean? Any special meaning?

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271.211 - 299.296 Lora Chow

Virtuoso Fiesta. Virtuoso means musicians or artists who are very skilled, highly skilled. And fiesta means party and festive atmosphere. So we want to make music at the highest artistic excellence, at the highest standard, but also at the same time fun and accessible and open to the community. Was your core mission there?

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300.717 - 329.355 Lora Chow

So my key mission is to promote music that are very high standard, but in innovative ways. For example, through writing new music that are more accessible to the public and that address social issues and inspire changes. Because I feel that music has a very strong power to move people across any culture's

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330.456 - 367.074 Lora Chow

to people with any background and it does soothe the soul and also inspire new thinking and motivates harmony and peace. So our mission is really to promote this power of music to the broader community And in innovative ways because we think that it's time to make changes. We need young people, young forces to make concerts fun instead of being super formal and serious.

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Chapter 3: How does music promote healing and connection?

367.815 - 374.879 Lora Chow

We want people to listen to music just for their enjoyment.

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376.5 - 413.348 Vince Chan

Yeah, I must say the world we live in now feels broken, fermented. and honestly depressed. That's why we're facing this huge crisis of loneliness and mental unwellness. And music, when I say music, I don't just mean classical. It could be pop, jazz, or whatever speaks to someone. It's such a powerful force to help us heal. Even in small ways, it can stabilize our emotions

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414.295 - 431.781 Vince Chan

Bring us back to ourselves. Hopefully. Let's go back to your music venture for a moment. You got a mission. But what about the actions? You compose? You perform? What else are you doing as part of this work?

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432.708 - 462.769 Lora Chow

Definitely. So we produce concerts and events that involve music, including corporate events and also wellness events or any types of organization if they want to have live music performance in their events. Our company would help facilitate that. We have a network of very world-class musicians, some from the Yale School of Music, but also from all the other prestigious music schools.

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Chapter 4: What innovative approaches is Lora using in music?

463.49 - 492.018 Lora Chow

So we curate programs for different events, and we also produce our own concerts and masterclasses. We bring world-class people to Hong Kong to share their knowledge on music. Say, for example, last year we brought in a soprano from the Metropolitan Opera. And she was so generous in sharing her knowledge in bel canto singing. She spent 18 years singing leading roles with The Met.

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492.558 - 518.004 Lora Chow

So there was such a wealth of knowledge that she shared with audience in Hong Kong. And we just brought in last month a professor from Yale. Michael Friedman, who is my favorite professor at Yale who taught music analysis and theory. And he came to Hong Kong to talk about romantic music, how people could listen to romantic music if they are new to it.

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518.024 - 547.175 Lora Chow

And it was really meaningful because I felt like he really helped the audience to connect to the music at a deeper level. So coming up, we'll continue to have concerts like that and also masterclasses. For people who would like to support, we have our website, virtuosofiester.org. We have online donation. Our business model basically relies a lot on patronage, sponsorship and ticketing.

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548.116 - 574.509 Lora Chow

And of course, like from corporates and other organizations who would like to have live music in their events. And then all this money we just invest in producing great music and great events. And we have videos on YouTube that people can view and comment and share. And of course, I also have my personal website and also music on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music.

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Chapter 5: How does Lora integrate community support in her projects?

574.529 - 581.512 Lora Chow

I have an album coming up in April that I would love to have a bigger audience.

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583.14 - 617.143 Vince Chan

Now you just published your new album, Referees on Ivory, which to me is like publishing a book. I just listened to it. I really like it. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if one day when my show gets bigger, I come to you and say, Nora, I want to commission you to write all the background music for the show. The intro, the outro, the whole soundtrack.

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618.264 - 625.414 Vince Chan

The credit will go to you, of course, and that would make it a Yale creation. That's the day I'm really hoping for.

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626.923 - 656.208 Lora Chow

Thank you so much. Thank you for your support. Yeah, I'm very happy to receive any types of commission, some scoring for TV or any podcast or any type of media. I'm happy to score music. And it's actually really fulfilling to write music that tells story. And I've been trained in film scoring. I've written opera. And it's all about the storytelling because music brings emotions.

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656.709 - 669.636 Lora Chow

And even without any lyrics or words, you can feel the story of the music. It's a very powerful universal language.

670.957 - 708.484 Vince Chan

You talk about music creation. composing, storytelling, and now we're entering a world that's increasingly AI-driven. We already have platforms where people can license soundtracks instantly. More people will use tech tools to generate music on their own. You are a human creator. You are classically trained. and not just trained, but over time, you've developed real skill, real craftsmanship.

710.005 - 726.455 Vince Chan

So I'm curious, how do you see AI stepping into this space? Do you see it as competition or do you see it as a push to step up your own game and differentiate yourself as a music creator?

728.157 - 764.716 Lora Chow

I guess like any type of artist, the craft and the art really came from within and it's authentic and it's human. But AI can imitate that, and it can be a tool that a creator uses in this process of creation. And I can see a lot of useful applications AI could help. For example, when I compose a new piece of music, sometimes I improvise on the piano and then I transcribe it to music notation.

Chapter 6: What can we expect from Lora's upcoming album?

765.757 - 789.988 Lora Chow

And then... I write a clean score for musicians to play them. So maybe in this process, AI could be the tool to transcribe this music to clean notation so that musicians can read them. And it can also be used for recording or making demos of my composition.

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791.169 - 823.57 Lora Chow

Say, for example, if I write a piece for orchestra, but I don't have a live orchestra with me, AI could mimic the sound of the orchestra to create a digital demo audio file for reference or for some kind of soundtrack. So there are applications, but I think to create the highest level of art, we still need that human element, which is our soul, our emotions, our own feelings in the music.

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824.39 - 849.212 Lora Chow

And I don't think AI could replace that since AI doesn't have real human emotions. But I could see that potentially say for some game music, we could just use AI to make something practical. So it depends on the purpose of the creation. If it's purely for practical purpose, maybe the computer can do it.

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849.932 - 862.843 Lora Chow

But if it's for emotional expression, for connecting people to inspire people, I still think the human touch is extremely important.

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864.224 - 898.792 Vince Chan

Yes, it's really about blending artificial and human intelligence. For me, this show is all about human intelligence. It's about life experience, real experience, human experience, the stories, the insight, the foresight, the hindsight, the heart. None of that can be fully replicated by AI. I'm not even worried about tools that can replicate my voice or my guest's voice.

900.313 - 936.969 Vince Chan

Because at the end of the day, the way I ask questions is unique. The stories you bring are unique. You are unique. I am unique. The connection between you and me is also unique. This conversation is human-made. Sure, I use AI to check grammar and sentence structure in the show notes or tighten up phrasing, but no tool can replace me as the host, and no tool can replace you as the guest.

938.529 - 976.307 Vince Chan

It's all about balance between the human and the technology. Speaking of balance, let's go back to something we touched on earlier. the balance between head and heart. We are trained with logic, math, science, economics, but we also carry within us love, music, and the heart. Now you've chosen to follow your heart, but there are people out there who might be where you once were.

977.645 - 1007.404 Vince Chan

Maybe they're younger. Maybe they've fulfilled the expectations placed on them. Played the game well, but don't feel fulfilled. They're still struggling between head and heart. So from where you are now, what would you say to someone who's feeling stuck? Someone trying to decide whether to follow their heart or their head? just how to balance the two.

1008.705 - 1012.57 Vince Chan

I feel like you are the perfect person to offer some advice here.

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