Summary:This episode explores how Christian schools, associations, and advocacy groups can work together without losing their theological convictions. Matt George and Mark Zockoll discuss the history of Christian education, the growth of school associations, and why political cooperation matters more than tribal separation when the goal is protecting schools and students.They also unpack a strong statement heard at a state association summit: tribalism in Christian education needs to end. The conversation broadens into practical examples from state lobbying, local school relationships, and coalition work across denominational lines.Timestamps:00:00 - Opening on desiloing Christian education and getting along better00:38 - Early-morning banter and the unusually odd recording time01:55 - Sponsors and transition into the day’s main topic02:28 - Why the Christian School State Association Summit mattered03:21 - A short history of Christian education and the rise of Christian schools05:04 - Prayer in schools, Christian school beginnings, and the movement’s roots06:55 - Growth in the 1980s and the modern era of school choice08:16 - Accreditation, funding, and why associations still matter09:14 - The broader association landscape across states and denominations10:47 - AACS, ACSI, CSI, and other association alignments12:06 - Why joining state and national associations can be valuable13:40 - Who made the tribalism comment at the summit14:55 - The claim that tribalism in Christian education needs to stop16:22 - Shared goals and the case for cooperation across lines18:30 - Separatism versus political cooperation20:16 - Personal examples of political alignment and religious division23:03 - Why “be not unequally yoked” is often stretched too far24:27 - Jesus, Pharisees, and the limits of isolationism25:47 - Working with Catholics, Muslims, and other allies on school issues27:07 - Should Christian school students be encouraged to enter politics?28:41 - Practical advocacy and why legislators should visit schools30:39 - Local community partnerships and public awareness33:14 - Coalitions are stronger than fragmented associations34:23 - March for Life as an example of broad coalition action36:00 - Local government and community reputation matter too38:25 - More people in the room and the reality of state advocacy41:15 - Why anti-message organizations eventually collapse44:22 - Christian administrator spotlight: Heather Daniel of Emmanuel Christian School45:48 - Closing prayer and outroNotable Quotes:“Tribalism is over. It needs to be over.”“When a coalition is able to go before the state and say, we are a million strong and we hold in this way the same value.”“There has to be more people in the room.”Christian Administrator Spotlight:Heather Daniel, assistant principal at Emmanuel Christian School in Wabash, IndianaFollow UsYouTube: Christian Principals Podcast Instagram: @cprincipalspod Email: [email protected] Website: www.christianprincipalspodcast.com X: @CPrincipalsPod LinkedIn: Christian Principals PodcastExplore the Herzog Foundation's offerings for Christian schools at www.herzogfoundation.com. Book us for your next event to bring engaging and practical conversations to your community! And be sure to level up your school experience with our partner, Gradelink Student Information Systems, at ⁠⁠cpp.gradelink.com ⁠⁠today!Thank you for listening and for leading with integrity in your school!

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