Disorder & dysfunction: inside Trump's White House - with Maggie Haberman
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What does Maggie Haberman reveal about the daily chaos inside Trump’s White House?
Mm-hmm.
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He has always, always, always wanted to be a star. But money is how he measures the worth of somebody. It's he equates wealth with intellect, and he is going to leave office richer than he has ever been.
People in allied countries and elsewhere, they're like, What? How come they let him? You know, what? How is this happening?
What we are seeing now was always a possibility, only because he will always push as far as people will let him. Trump's shamelessness is his superpower.
Very, very sadly, just the first year and a half of Trump 2.0 has caused popularity of the United States polls to plummet the trust in the United States, to plummet, the admiration for the United States, to plummet.
His attacks on female reporters have gotten much nastier and much more aggressive, and much less just about being a keyboard warrior. He has done it about me. He's been calling me a hag, he has called me the least attractive, whatever I mean, what who who cares?
Hello everyone and welcome to the X-Files. Now, this week we have something nice and different. Jamie's off for a couple of weeks' vacation, and we've got some special guests. Our very first is an amazing journalist and author, Maggie Haberman, whose name you all know because of the amazing Trump reporting she's been doing for decades, and her latest book, Regime Change, along with uh Jonathan Swan of the New York Times. It is it is It has exposed so many aspects of the Trump administration that none of us knew before this book uh was published. So it's really worth having her on. Again, Maggie Haberman, welcome to the programme.
Thank you for having me, Christian.
So look, you have spoken a lot about it. Your book speaks for itself. Many, many people have read it because it's a massive bestseller. I'm obviously interested in all the incredible news that you put out there, but I'm also fascinated by what makes Trump tick, what you know about him, uh the sort of behind the scenes uh episodes and examples that you both give in this incredible book. But first I want to start with something that's happening today, it's kind of a hard news. Uh as we record. President Trump decided to post for I don't know what reason on Sunday night that He wanted to end The joint exercises between America and South Korea, which are annual, been going on for 70 odd years, designed specifically not just to train and practice and send signals, but to reassure American allies.
Now, President Trump has said on Truth Social that he wants to potentially eliminate them. It's too late this year, so he's asked Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to diminish them. But he's also Also talked about North Korea's Kim Jong un as being respectful at least to the times that Trump has been in office. Can you make head or tails of it? He'd he talked about how expensive it was. I mean, I was really shocked, having covered a lot of North Korea, including his negotiations with Kim. What did you make of it?
Considering the fact that he was at his golf course in Bedminster yesterday and was playing throughout the day and had a as best as I can tell from people I've spoken to and what I've seen in social media, a a pretty um bubbled in weekend where he wasn't doing a lot in terms of strategy looking forward. This looked to me like a frustrated statement in terms of his view of Kim Jong-un. I don't think it's especially complicated. He, you know, used to say privately, I I do better with the strong ones. That's what he would say in term one. And he has l long admired. authoritarians and you know, you can go down the list. It began with Putin, we've s we've seen it with Orban over and over again.
How did Trump’s approach to North Korea and the joint exercises unfold?
Kim Jong un it appeared as if they were trying to they they meeting the Trump first term uh administration Even his own aides who were skeptical would say, well, nothing else has worked. Fine, let's try this. But I there there's really no evidence that some kind of a direct approach with with uh the North Koreans uh is having some kind of an effect, other than that Trump likes Kim Jong-un and uh you know, a admires the the the behavior.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What does Maggie Haberman reveal about the daily chaos inside Trump’s White House?
0:00–3:52
2
How did Trump’s approach to North Korea and the joint exercises unfold?
3:52–11:57
3
Why does Maggie say the second Trump term feels radically different from the first?
11:57–20:00
4
What’s behind Trump’s increasingly aggressive attacks on female reporters?
20:00–27:08
5
How has the Trump administration reshaped media access and the press pool?
27:08–33:56
6
What role do Stephen Miller and the administration’s lawyers play in expanding executive power?
33:56–41:06
7
How might the Republican Party respond if the midterms deal a blow to Trump’s agenda?
41:06–43:59
8
What final recommendations does Maggie give to listeners about understanding Trump’s regime?
43:59–45:08
Speakers
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