It's Not That We Don't Value Your Experience, We Just Don't Want to Pay for It
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What advice do CISOs need when starting in a new role?
Best advice for a CISO. Go.
Get a third-party independent report. If you're coming into a company, new to a program, new to a role, you want to make a big splash in the first six months, get a third-party report to baseline where your program's at. And that's something that you can immediately hand off and present to your board. And that's going to add a lot of credibility to whatever strategy you're trying to form.
It's time to begin the CISO Series podcast.
Welcome to the CISO Series podcast. My name is David Spark. I am the producer of said CISO Series and joining me as my co-host for this very episode. It's one of your favorites. You tell me it's one of your favorites. It's Andy Ellis, principal for DUHA. Andy, say hello to the audience.
Dobre popolodnie, alebo zavislosti od toho, keri sa nazvete, nachadze date, dobre rano, dobre vecer, alebo dobru noc. That would be Slovak in honor of we are recording during the Olympics, and tomorrow the U.S. team will be playing Slovakia in hockey.
Well, by the time everyone hears this, it'll be months past. I know. And we will know who won that.
But my mother-in-law was born in, it was the time was Czechoslovakia, but on the Slovak side. So we're going to be doing a watch party together with them, I think, tomorrow or three months ago, depending on how you think about it.
Audience, we are available also at CISOseries.com where you can find all of our other wonderful programming. So you should spend, I would say, one to two hours. That's what, you know, most professional doctors order. One to two hours of CISO Series a day. I would strongly recommend it. Our sponsor for today's episode is Native Security. Unify, manage, and maximize built-in cloud security controls and achieve secure by design consistency across cloud environments. That is Native Security. And we're going to talk more about that later in the show. But first, Andy. I want to talk about actually a quote that I saw, that I posted, that there was a certain phrase in this quote that both hit us. And this comes from Igor Tomasic, who is an associate professor at the Faculty of Organization and Informatics.
And he said, quote, CISO series is my go-to choice during my solo car trips. You and Andy have a certain addictive chemistry and above average mindsets and themes that are engaging, educative, and enjoyable for me. This is basically the only podcast I'm listening to. So the phrase above average mindsets. I loved it. I loved it. That was fantastic. I don't think I've ever heard that phrase before at all. And you definitely doubled down. What is it? First of all, I'm a big fan of compliments in general. As I've said, I'm the Floyd Merriweather of compliments. You can hit me with them constantly and I can take every single one of them. So what did you like about that above average mindsets?
First of all, I like it because it's an unusual phrasing. Like, so it stands out. Like if he just said, you both are brilliant. Like everybody says stuff like that. And you sort of take with a grain of salt. I mean, he'd be lying too, but you know.
Well, I'm not brilliant. Let me qualify anybody who said, let me also qualify anybody who says that of me.
That is far from me. Yeah, and it's possible like you might, someone might look at this and assume negative intent and be like, oh, like damning with fan praise. I don't think that's the case. I'm never going to go there. I liked it because it's like, huh, it made me think. And I'm like, hmm, like if you think about like the average mindset, like I think people are so used to thinking about like bell curves, like, well, average is 50%. But sometimes you actually think like average is this whole range in the middle. It's like 60% of the people are average. To each standard deviation. Right. And so like above average, I'll totally take that because it's about your mindset. Like I don't need somebody to say like you have the most amazing mindset out there because I don't think I do.
It just hit me because I had to stop and think about it. I like this compliment.
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