Step 1: Deploy New AI Tool. Step 2: Discover Security Flaws. Step 3: Repeat. (LIVE in Orlando)

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What are the biggest mistakes in cybersecurity?

Unknown 0:00
biggest mistake I ever made in security. Go.
Rob Allen 0:04
I may have accidentally once left a OMG cable at a security conference that I was demonstrating with and I forgot to put it in my bag and I left it around. So there's probably somebody now charging their phone with an OMG cable. So I'm sorry.
Unknown 0:23
It's time to begin the CISO Series podcast recorded in front of a live audience in Orlando.
David Spark 0:40
Welcome to the CISO Series podcast. I'm David Spark. I am the host and the producer of the CISO Series. And joining me to my immediate left is my guest co-host for this episode. It is the CISO of Movement Mortgage, Michelle Wilson. Let's hear it for her. We are available at CISOseries.com. And if you don't know it, our sponsor for today's episode is ThreatLocker. Allow what you need, block everything else by default, including ransomware and rogue code. We are at Zero Trust World in Orlando right now. Let's hear it for everybody. Thank you for coming on out. And I also want to introduce our sponsor guest, who's to my far left over here, and he usually goes by the title of Chief Product Officer for ThreatLocker, Rob Allen.
David Spark 1:39
Let's hear it for Rob. Not today, friends. Not today. Not today.
Rob Allen 1:43
Chief... Podcast officer today. And I want to give a shout out to Paola, one of our marketing rock stars who organized this for me. I also want to give a shout out to David Covert for organizing this and convincing me to actually get on stage with David Spark again. And I want to give a massive shout out. I know it's been mentioned already, but Heather and all of the events team who have put this entire event together. Bigger, better than ever. And I want to praise proper right round of applause i want some whoops i want some hollers come on come on there we go thank you very much thank you very much so yes chief podcast officer for the day michelle you haven't spoken yet people don't know your voice yet it's okay they'll they'll get to hear me they'll get to hear you plenty all right okay what's the risk
David Spark 2:39
The key to building a company culture that can handle risk effectively is daily practice, not annual slides. argued Maman Ibrahim and Gabriel Schneider in a CSO online piece. An effective risk culture should be based around four questions. Do people notice risk early? Do they name it clearly? Do they know who can decide? Do they act without fear? The key is that the conversation about risk is commonplace, even when risk signals are weak. I'm going to start with you, Michelle, on this one. How do you have conversations about risk with your team? And more importantly, how do they bring it up with you?
Michelle Wilson 3:21
I'm actually talking about risk almost all the time with my team. There's very rare occasions that I have a conversation with anyone that I work with that risk doesn't come into play. So I'd say that they're tired of hearing me talk about risk, but they definitely know that it's one of the things I'm most interested in. They do tend to bring it to me.
David Spark 3:41
How do they bring it to you? Like, give me an example of something you would get.
Michelle Wilson 3:44
Last week I got one. We had a developer that noticed that they didn't follow some certain process and wanted to make sure we had it on our risk register and we're tracking it to complete.
David Spark 3:53
All right. That's a good way of putting it. All right. Rob, you deal with risk. ThreatLocker deals with risk. How do you discuss it with your team and how do they bring it up with you?
Rob Allen 4:06
I'd like to say we reduce risk. It's one of the things that as a platform, as a product, as a company, we help organizations do. I mean, I just want to say, first of all, that I reject the premise of this question, the fact that there's I mean, it mentions four questions. There's actually six questions here. I'm not entirely sure which one I should answer.
David Spark 4:23
Well, it's the ways they bring up risk, like noticing it, naming it, who decides about it, can you act on it? I'm just being difficult, David. Oh, I know.
Rob Allen 4:33
That's what you do, Rob. Yeah, I mean, open, clear communication is extremely important.
David Spark 4:38
But risk conversations is different than having conversations about security.

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