All links and images can be found on CISO Series. This week's episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Andy Ellis (@csoandy), partner, YL Ventures. Joining us is Alex Hall, CISO, Gensler. In this episode: Evaluating secure messaging beyond the app Reframing compliance as a business enabler Incremental security investment vs. crisis response Why culture, not punishment, drives secure behavior Huge thanks to our sponsor, Vanta Automate, centralize, & scale your GRC program with Vanta Vanta's Trust Management Platform automates key areas of your GRC program—including compliance, internal and third-party risk, and customer trust—and streamlines the way you gather and manage information. And the impact is real: A recent IDC analysis found that compliance teams using Vanta are 129% more productive. Get started at Vanta.com/ciso.

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