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USPTO’s “One-and-Done” PTAB Approach and its Impact on the Patent Policy Debate
16 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Recent changes at USPTO are increasingly shaping the context in which Congress considers potential patent legislation.In the latest episode of Clause ...
Novartis’ Global Head of IP Affairs on How Patent Eligibility Mess Threatens Life-Saving Innovation & Why He Remains Optimistic
02 Dec 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Corey Salsberg, one of the leading voices on intellectual property policy in the United States, joins Clause 8 to discuss surviving the anti-pharma ac...
Pioneers of the Modern Patent Pool Era at Via's Bridge Summit 2025
21 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
At the Via Licensing Alliance’s Bridge Summit 2025 in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who ushered in the modern ag...
Exclusive Interview: USPTO Deputy Commissioner Explains Changes to Examiner Performance Plan
04 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of Clause 8, Deputy Commissioner for Patents Jerry Lorengo joins host Eli Mazour to share valuable, practical insights for patent prof...
“The Inventress” Lisa Ascolese on the Realities of Being an Inventor: You Can’t Skip the Work
21 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
When I first heard about Lisa Ascolese, known as “The Inventress,” I knew I wanted to bring her story to Clause 8.Lisa’s path into inventing beg...
Secrets to Successfully Licensing in Asia from Via LA's Chief Licensing Officer & HDMI LA's President
07 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
At the Via LA 2025 Bridge Summit in San Francisco, Clause 8 host Eli Mazour sat down with two leaders who play pivotal roles in connecting innovators ...
Ex–USPTO Deputy Laura Peter on How America Benefits from University Research and Proposals to Seize IP
23 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Tech transfer has long been a critical but often overlooked part of the intellectual property system. For decades, the Bayh-Dole Act has guided how fe...
Why Creativity Needs Ownership: James Edwards on the Biblical Roots of IP & the Future of Patents
09 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In To Invent Is Divine: Creativity and Ownership, Jim makes the case that creativity and ownership are inseparable—and that weakening intellectual p...
USPTO Changes, Patent Trends, and Judge Newman Through the Lens of Top IP Journalists
26 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From Coke Morgan Stewart’s decisive actions at the USPTO, to Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s unexpected “patent tax” trial balloon, to the...
Coke Morgan Stewart Ushers in New Era at USPTO
08 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
PTO 'whistleblower' Julie Burke and patent prosecution guru Clint Mehall join Eli on the season finale of Clause 8 to break down what’s happening at...
Finding the Truth in Patent Valuations—Top 3 Experts Weigh In
25 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
What is the actual value of patents? Inventors and companies invest millions in obtaining patents, believing they are valuable assets. Yet, their true...
How the World's Largest Patent Pool Connects Innovators and Implementers
11 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Host Eli Mazour talks with Heath Hoglund, President of Via LA, to break down the role of patent pools in today’s innovation landscape.Tune in as the...
Exclusive: USPTO Union Head Hopeful & Working Well with Leadership
26 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Kathy Duda is the President of The Patent Office Professional Association (POPA), which is the union representing USPTO patent examiners. On this epis...
The Remaining Power of the US Patent System
11 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Join Eli Mazour as he explores the vital role of the U.S. patent system in fostering innovation. Entrepreneur Patrick Murray shares his journey from i...
Right Choice for USPTO: Coke Morgan Stewart
28 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of Clause 8, Eli shares why Coke Morgan Stewart is the perfect person to lead the USPTO. Eli discusses why her selection excit...
Choice of Next USPTO Director in the Shadow of Patents Saving Cantor Fitzgerald After 9/11
31 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What better way to wrap up 2024 than a conversation around the future of the USPTO with David Boundy.David is one of the sharpest minds at the interse...
Soft IP in the Start-up Nation with Ariel Dubinsky
17 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Earlier this year, Eli had the opportunity to spend a day in Israel with Ariel Dubinsky, the founder and owner of Ariel Dubinsky Law Firm. While there...
What’s Keeping Corporate IP Leaders Awake These Days
03 Dec 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of Clause 8, host Eli Mazour takes us behind the scenes of the Consero IP Forum, where he spoke with IP leaders about common p...
Building an IP Strategy for the Final Frontier: A Conversation with Bridget Smith of Relativity Space 🚀
19 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
This week’s Clause 8 episode features Bridget Smith, Assistant General Counsel and Director, Intellectual Property at Relativity Space—the first c...
Exclusive: USPTO AI Co-Chairs Reassure Stakeholders on Guidance & Share Journey of Shaping USPTO's Approach to AI
05 Nov 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Jerry Ma, Director of Emerging Technologies and Chief AI Officer, and Charles Kim, Deputy Commissioner for the USPTO tell story of co-chairing USPTO's...
IP Strategy at Walmart: Balancing Innovation, Protection, and Practicality in a Global Retail Giant
22 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In the ever-evolving world of retail, where technology and innovation are reshaping the industry, managing intellectual property has never been more i...
Qualcomm's General Counsel Ann Chaplin on Patents Fueling Innovation
08 Oct 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this special episode of Clause 8, host Eli Mazour speaks with Ann Cathcart Chaplin at the Qualcomm Museum, which is right at the heart of Qualcomm’...
Avanci Vehicle President Laurie Fitzgerald on Building SEP's Field of Dreams
24 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Laurie Fitzgerald joins Eli to tell the story of how she led Avanci to an 8-year overnight success. Avanci’s pioneering efforts to provide an effici...
Alec Sorensen on Keeping IP Rembrandts Out of the Attic
10 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
What is the value of protecting intellectual property (IP)?That’s the fundamental question that most Chief IP Counsel need time to answer to help th...
Re-Release: The Great 101 Debate
03 Sep 2024
Contributed by Lukas
We’re looking forward to sharing new episodes from this season starting next Tuesday, including special video episodes on www.VoiceOfIP.com and a se...
Judge Dyk Defends Today's Federal Circuit
20 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Federal Circuit Judge Timothy Dyk discusses his memoir and provides priceless insights into how the Federal Circuit is operating today - 42 years afte...
Brazil Becoming the Mecca for Patent Enforcement & Chief IP Counsel Seeking Valuable Patents
06 Aug 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Clause 8 Podcast Show NotesRob Rodrigues and Tatiana Alves - Brazil’s go-to attorneys for strong patent protection and effective enforcement - join ...
Iancu & Jones Debate Section 101 and Find Common Ground
23 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Clause 8 favorites - former USPTO Director Andrei Iancu and HTIA’s David Jones - return for the first ever Clause 8 debate!They debate Section 101, ...
Erich Spangenberg on How to Succeed in Patent Monetization
09 Jul 2024
Contributed by Lukas
His critics have called him “one of the most notorious patent trolls in America.” Many others have tried and failed to emulate his success. Howe...
Moneyball for Pharma Patents with Chief IP Counsel Steve Caltrider
25 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Why does an $850 billion pharma company obtain only 50 patents per year?Steve Caltrider, Chief IP Counsel at Dana Farber Cancer Institute, brings over...
IP Fray's Legendary Publisher on What Will Happen with EU's SEP Regulation & AI’s Impact on Patent Law
11 Jun 2024
Contributed by Lukas
Florian Mueller shares his remarkable journey from leading a major fight against pro-software patent legislation in Europe to becoming one of the most...
IBM's Chief Patent Counsel for Americas Mark Vallone on Changing Patent Portfolio Strategy
28 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
For almost 30 years - under the leadership of giants like Marshall Phelps, David Kappos, and Manny Schechter, IBM led in obtaining the most patents pe...
Chief Counsel John Lee on Bicameral, Bipartisan Efforts to Advance Section 101 & PTAB Legislation
14 Mar 2024
Contributed by Lukas
J. John Lee is the Chief Counsel for IP in the US House of Representatives and helms the House Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property, and the ...
Europe's New Unified Patent Court: Exclusive Interview with Judge Michael Fleuchaus
29 Feb 2024
Contributed by Lukas
In this special two-part episode, we delve into the creation, implementation, and strategic importance of Europe's Unified Patent Court (UPC) with UPC...
Resetting the Narrative on IP Rights in America
19 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
This year, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce brought together a diverse group of stakeholders and thought leaders in support of a framework of IP Principle...
Matteo Sabattini on Licensing Igniting Virtuous Cycle of Innovation
12 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Matteo Sabattini is well known in DC patent policy circles from his previous role as Director of IP Policy at Ericsson. He now joins Eli from Ital...
Ed Murgitroyd on Disrupting IP Legal Services & Lessons from his Dad
05 Dec 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Ed Murgitroyd joins Eli Mazour to tell the stories of building Murgitroyd into one of Europe’s biggest IP law firms and his disruptive new venture H...
Ofinno: The Little SEP Engine That Could
28 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Ofinno’s founder Esmael Dinan and CEO Kavon Nasabzadeh join the Clause 8 podcast to tell Ofinno’s unique story of succeeding in the patent monetiz...
Kfir Luzzatto: Bring Amit Soussana Home
19 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Amit Soussana is an IP attorney at one of Israel’s leading IP firms, Luzzato and Luzzatto. She is also one of more than 240 people – including b...
Time to Embrace Patent Eligibility Restoration Act (PERA) & AI Future
12 Nov 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Clause 8 is back for a new season! To start the season, Eli – for the first time on Clause 8 - shares his own thoughts at length about the hottest...
Exclusive Interview with Judge Pauline Newman’s Attorney Greg Dolin
01 Aug 2023
Contributed by Lukas
When Judge Pauline Newman helped create the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in 1982 to have exclusive jurisdiction over patent cases, no...
SPECIAL EP: If Twitter Sues…with Gaston Kroub
24 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Will Twitter's meager patent portfolio doom Elon Musk’s hopes of “strictly enforcing” Twitter’s IP rights? Eli is joined by return guest Gas...
Ex-USPTO GC Nick Matich on Rulemaking & the PTAB
14 Jul 2023
Contributed by Lukas
USPTO Director Kathi Vidal’s decision to issue the Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (ANPRM) is the latest major controversy surrounding the Pat...
Shawn Lillemo on Building Software Tools for a Patent Firm
16 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Eli is joined by colleague Shawn Lillemo, Head of Software Development at their firm Harrity, to talk about the firm’s tech journey. Shawn and Eli...
New Episodes Coming Soon
09 Jun 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Thank you for listening to the Clause 8 podcast. We hope you’ve enjoyed the episodes so far this season. We’re on a short break but we’ll be ba...
Joff Wild on Founding IAM for Chief IP Officers & EU Commission’s anti-SEP Crusade
19 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Joff Wild on Founding IAM for Chief IP Officers & EU Commission’s anti-SEP Crusade “It became obvious to me that IP was a lot more than laws and c...
Tom Irving on Litigating 1st Hatch-Waxman Case & Mentoring 1000s in Patent Field
05 May 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Eli is joined by the legend of the patent bar, the virtuoso of Federal Circuit decisions – Tom Irving. They discuss the rise of the pharmaceutical p...
Tim Pohlmann on Founding IPlytics & Hosting The SEP Couch
21 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Tim Pohlmann is the founder and CEO of IPlytics, which provides software analytics tools for standard essential patents (SEPs). Tim is also one of t...
HTIA’s David Jones on Winning in DC
07 Apr 2023
Contributed by Lukas
David Jones is the Executive Director of the High Tech Inventors Alliance (HTIA), which advocates on patent policy issues on behalf of some of the lar...
Commissioner Stoll on Being Part of ‘First Family’ of Patent Law
24 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Former Patent Commissioner Robert Stoll joins the Clause 8 podcast to talk about working his way up from being an examiner to being the commissioner o...
World’s #1 IP Dealmaker You Haven't Heard of...Yet
10 Mar 2023
Contributed by Lukas
If you’ve come across a national news story about some brash character making lots of money from patent deals, chances are that the person making th...
USPTO Director Kathi Vidal Defends America's Patent System
24 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Kathi Vidal returns to the Clause 8 podcast to talk about her first year as the Director of the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). In an expans...
How the PTAB Killed Molly Metz’s Patents
10 Feb 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Five-time world jump rope champion Molly Metz and her husband Dirk Tomsin talk about the highs and lows of innovation, entrepreneurship, and relying o...
Bruce Berman on Telling a Patent Story
27 Jan 2023
Contributed by Lukas
Bruce Berman is the PR guru of the IP world. As CEO of Brody Berman Associates, he has implemented marketing and business development programs on be...
Bob Giles – Exclusive Interview with Qualcomm's New Chief IP Counsel
10 May 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Qualcomm is responsible for the smartphone revolution. It started working on the technology back when many thought it was impossible. Besides ever...
Ray Millien - Volvo's past Chief IP Officer & CEO of Harness IP
26 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
What is outside counsel’s real job? How do you make patents part of a 100-year-old company’s DNA? Why did Ocean Tomo fail to become the Goldma...
Prof. Tim Hsieh on Value of District Court Judges Having Patent Expertise
12 Apr 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Show Notes Is it preferable for patent cases to be handled by district court judges who have relevant expertise and experience? Senator Leahy can’t ...
Phil Warrick on Working with Sen. Coons to Improve Patent System
29 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
How is patent policy made in Congress? Few know better than Philip Warrick. Phil served as Senator Coons’ top IP advisor after Coons helped rest...
Louis Carbonneau on Brokering Patents After the Patent Gold Rush
15 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
The golden age for patent brokers has come and gone but that doesn’t stop Louis Carbonneau. “There are very, very few patent brokers nowadays. W...
Ryan Abbott on Why Patent Law Should Recognize AI Inventors
01 Mar 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Good lawyers effectively deal with the present. Very few have what it takes to create the future. Professor Ryan Abbott is doing just that. He leads t...
Prof. Dan Brown and Dan Jr.’s Patent Battle Against a Retail Giant
15 Feb 2022
Contributed by Lukas
Prof. Dan Brown and his son, Dan Brown Jr., are straight out of central casting. Prof. Brown, the father, grew up in a working-class Irish family on C...
Josh Landau - On Lobbying for Weaker Patent Rights and “Making a PB&J Sandwich”
06 Jul 2021
Contributed by Lukas
The first episode of this season of Clause 8 featured the most recent USPTO Director - Andrei Iancu - discussing his efforts to strengthen America’s...
Mark Han: Applying Lessons from Intellectual Ventures to Helping Innovative Doctors
29 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
“Jeff [Roh] knew for every person like [him], who is able to succeed, there's countless others who aren't. They just fall flat because they encounte...
Chris Agrawal: AIPF’s President on Growing $1 Billion Portfolio & Succeeding in IP Field
22 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
Chris Agrawal is President of the Association of Intellectual Property Firms and partner at Bookoff McAndrews. He was instrumental in one of the big...
Welcome to Clause 8
08 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
We hope you've enjoyed the episodes we've released so far in this season. We'll be taking a short break and will release the rest of the season very s...
Alan Albright - On Becoming the Go-To Judge for Patent Cases
01 Jun 2021
Contributed by Lukas
If you’ve ever wondered how and why Judge Alan D Albright - of the Western District Texas - became America’s go-to judge for patent cases, you d...
Prof. Stephen Yelderman - A Personal View of How the Supreme Court Approaches IP
25 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
How many Supreme Court Justices can you count as friends? Professor Stephen Yelderman, one of America’s leading IP scholars, was recruited to join t...
Andrei Iancu - From Communist Romania To USPTO Director
18 May 2021
Contributed by Lukas
At the end of last year, IPWatchdog asked leaders in the field about their wildest dreams for America’s IP system. The most common answer was for fo...
Joseph Lentivech - Ex-PTAB Judge on Ex-Parte Appeals
24 Nov 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Judge Joe Lentivech is a former Administrative Patent Judge. On this episode, he talks about how he became an Administrative Patent Judge, how the Pat...
Brad Watts - Leading Sen. Thom Tillis’ Efforts to Fix the Section 101 Patent Eligibility Mess
21 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Brad Watts is the Majority Chief Counsel and Staff Director for the Senate Subcommittee on Intellectual Property. Under the leadership of Sen. Thom Ti...
Professor Adam Mossoff - How Law School Professors Influence the Patent Policy Debate
01 Sep 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Welcome to Clause 8 – the Voice of IP. Clause 8 is part of IPWatchdog and hosted by Eli Mazour. If you enjoy listening, please subscribe on your fav...
Bruce MacEwen - World’s Leading Expert on the Economics of Law Firms
04 Aug 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This episode features an interview with Bruce MacEwen. He is the founder and president of Adam Smith, Esq. and has written thousands of articles on th...
Sarah Tsou - How To Take Advantage Of Patent Litigation Funding
02 Jun 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This episode features an interview with Sarah Tsou, who is an investment manager for patent litigation at the world’s leading litigation funder, Ben...
Brian Pomper - Innovation Alliance’s Efforts to Improve Patent System
19 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This episode of Clause 8 features an interview with Brian Pomper of the Innovation Alliance. Thomas Edison, the Wright Brothers, and Charles Goodyear...
Frank Jakes - Carole Baskin’s Legendary Attorney on Defeating the Tiger King
05 May 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This episode features an interview with trial attorney Frank Jakes - the founder of the Intellectual Property Group at the firm of Johnson Pope in Tam...
Josh Malone - How the Inventor of Bunch O Balloons Won
18 Mar 2020
Contributed by Lukas
The latest episode of the Clause 8 podcast features an interview with Josh Malone – the inventor of Bunch O Balloons and America’s foremost advoca...
Kevin Jakel (Pt 2) - Unified Patent’s Battles v. SEPs & “Patent Trolls”
21 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
This episode is the second and final part of our interview with Kevin Jakel, the founder and CEO of Unified Patents. On this episode, we continue the ...
Kevin Jakel (Pt 1) - Exclusive interview with CEO of Unified Patents
07 Jan 2020
Contributed by Lukas
Kevin Jakel is the founder and CEO of Unified Patents. Since the passage of the American Invents Act (AIA), Unified Patents has been focused on using ...
Gene Quinn - Creating World’s Largest IP Publication & How To Effectively Impact IP Policy
10 Sep 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Gene Quinn is the founder of IPWatchdog.com. It has been the leading online publication focused on intellectual property for almost twenty years. Alth...
Gilbert Hyatt - David v. Goliath battle of Inventor of Microprocessor v. USPTO
16 Jul 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Gil Hyatt is one of the most significant American innovators in the field of personal computing - the inventor of the microprocessor. And, he has been...
John Harrity - How To Successfully Innovate In The Legal Field
11 Jun 2019
Contributed by Lukas
John Harrity is the managing partner of Harrity & Harrity LLP and a leader in innovation in the legal field. John, along with his twin brother Paul Ha...
Makan Delrahim - DoJ’s Head of Antitrust on Patents
26 Mar 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Makan Delrahim is the Assistant Attorney General for the Antitrust Division. Makan is the first registered patent attorney in that role and has alread...
Kathi Vidal - On Being an IP Lawyer In Silicon Valley
05 Mar 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Kathi Vidal is the managing partner of of the Silicon Valley office of Winston & Strawn LLP. Kathi is also one of the top patent litigators in America...
Aaron Cooper - Passing the AIA as Sen. Leahy’s Chief Counsel
05 Feb 2019
Contributed by Lukas
Aaron Cooper was the Chief Counsel for IP and Antitrust Law on the Senate Judiciary Committee during the passage of the Leahy-Smith America Invents Ac...
Tariq Hafiz - Secrets of Successfully Navigating the USPTO from USPTO’s Director of TC 3600 Business Methods
02 Dec 2018
Contributed by Lukas
USPTO's (United States Patent and Trademark Office) Director of Technology Center 3600 Business Methods discusses his career, role at the USPTO, how p...
Henry Waxman - The Hatch-Waxman Act and a Life In Congress
26 Oct 2018
Contributed by Lukas
Former Congressman Waxman discusses the passage of the seminal Hatch-Waxman Act, recent proposals to improve the balance between rights of brand name ...
Gaston Kroub - Helping Wall Street Understand Patent Litigation
08 Oct 2018
Contributed by Lukas
IP Columnist for Above the Law and Founding Partner at Kroub, Silbersher & Kolmykov PLLC & Markman Advisors LLC. Kroub, Silbersher & Kolmykov PLLC is ...
David Kappos - Leading the USPTO & Implementing the AIA
20 Sep 2018
Contributed by Lukas
In this episode of the Clause 8 podcast, host Eli Mazour sits down with David Kappos. Mr. Kappos is the former head of intellectual property (IP) at I...
Doug Henderson - Starting and Growing World’s Largest IP Boutique
19 Nov 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Sampling of stories and topics discussed during the interview: Starting and growing America's largest Intellectual Property (IP) boutique law firm Pe...
Judge Randall Rader - Most Interesting Man in the Patent World Fights to Improve America’s Patent System
13 Sep 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Sampling of stories and topics discussed during the interview: Mistakenly ending up in Soviet Union during the Cold War Working with John Podesta (ch...
Judge Paul Michel - Golden Age Of the Federal Circuit & Fixing America’s Patent System
10 Aug 2017
Contributed by Lukas
Topics discussed during the interview include: • Can Patents “Make America Great Again”? • Why fixing America’s patent system is crucial for...