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Stephen is a recently retired Navy SEAL with 24 years of active duty service. Immediately upon graduating from high school he enlisted in the Navy and went to Basic Underwater Demolition School BUD/S. Stephen was assigned to SEAL Delivery Vehicle Team TWO where he specialized as a SDV Pilot, small arms marksmanship instructor, and scout/sniper. In 1999 Stephen successfully screened and went to Naval Special Warfare Development Group (SEAL Team 6). During his 11 years at the command, Steve successfully completed 10 combat deployments to both OIF (Iraq) and OEF (Afghanistan). During his combat tours as an assault team sniper and team leader, he was awarded the Silver Star and five Bronze Star medals for heroic actions while engaged in National level HVT combat missions, among other medals and awards. Before retiring he started his own consulting business, (TIER ONE Global Consulting LLC) specializing in soldiering skills, combat shooting, austere high altitude jump training, and lead climbing rock courses to private clients and government agencies. In 2012 he was the Today, Stephen is the owner-operator of Dark Desert Defense. Stephen also owns Six Shooters LLC. This company works specifically in the entertainment industry, film, TV, and video games. Genghis was born and raised in New Zealand (NZ). At the age of 17 he was accepted for Officer Training with the Royal New Zealand Army. After serving 7 years with the military Genghis moved to the US where he studied at San Francisco State University(SSU). Genghis grew up around firearms. From an early age he was shooting and hunting with his father. His time in the military led to a greater understanding or firearms specifically in a combat environment. In 2008 Genghis moved to Ghana, Africa where he owned Gold and Diamond mining operations, he also worked as a consultant at this time in security and aviation. In 2010 Genghis returned to the US and decided to teach part time as a firearms instructor, after a couple of bad experiences with the facilities and training offered in Las Vegas, Genghis and his partners decided to open their own range offering training and firearms experiences. Genghis went on to train more and more clients offering a bespoke approach to defensive firearms training. Genghis now owns and operates multiple tourism attractions as well as being one of the principles for Dark Desert Defense. As a veteran himself Genghis also founded and is the chairman of the Veterans Training Fund, a 501(c) 3 that assists veterans in assimilating back into society. https://www.darkdesertdefense.com/
Chapter 1: What is the background of Stephen Sanders?
I ran into him one time. He's an interesting cat.
At a Marriott bar. just north of Santa Barbara. I said nothing to him because he was sitting at the bar on the far edge, appearing to have a pretty shitty night, or maybe that's just his resting bitch face. But I rolled in there, and I think I was ordering some food to go, and I looked at him like, that's fucking Quentin Tarantino. Okay, I'm out of here. That's my Quentin Tarantino story.
Thank you for being a part of my TED Talk. Good talk. 30 lesbians, that's how he's rolling? It was some sort of movie project he was working on. Cause then we sort of started talking about what he was doing in Vegas and stuff. Okay. Um, yeah, but it was interesting. I mean, I got so many stories, dude. I mean. But that's a tremendous amount of people working for you.
So you got to remember at any one time, the max on the floor would maybe be 180 girls. So you've got 1600. 180 on the floor? Yeah. Between 150, 180. How big was this place? Not big, dude. It was only 5,000 square feet. I mean, you go to a place like some of the big clubs in Vegas, like Sapphires and Rhino, there's 1,000 girls rolling through there in a day. Because don't forget, it's 24 hours.
So you've got two shifts, and they can have three to 400 girls on the floor. So if you have three shifts, you know, on a busy, like if it's Super Bowl weekend or like the F1 now. Is that counting like the servers? No, no, that's just dancers. on a peak like F1 day? What are we looking at take home?
I had girls that worked for me that made over a million dollars a year. What? I had girls that worked for me that made over a million dollars a year. Holy shit. Yeah. I had a girl that worked for me and she, super smart Korean lady, she would make money at the club and then she'd put it away and then she'd buy real estate.
She was still working at the club and her real estate portfolio was over 20 million dollars. And I go, why are you still at the club? And she goes, I've been working here for 18 years. She's like, you know, what do you want me to, you know, this is my life. These are all my friends. So they just stayed working there.
We're not in the right line of business. I don't know if there's a male version of this, but I'm a little bit let down. Not that I have the fucking self-confidence to do that. But I'm like, a fucking million dollars a year?
God damn. You could try out for Thunder from Down Under or whatever. It's really interesting. Probably my most successful girls really never took their clothes off. It's all about talking. Yeah, yeah. It's a really... Yeah, it's interesting. I have a friend who's very big in the OnlyFans business and only 30% of it has anything to do with sexual stuff. The rest of it's just, what are you doing?
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Chapter 3: What services does Dark Desert Defense offer?
I had girls working for me that were, well, the mother daughter, I think the mother, Asian mother daughter, I think the mother, this is going to sound, it's kind of hard to believe. She was, I think she was 60. And I swear to God, she had the body of like a 25 year old. It was absolutely, it was like, she was like a genetic freak.
Like if her and her daughter danced together, you would think they were almost twins. Yeah. Wow. That likely probably get us removed from all platforms right there.
Yeah. You know, yeah. So, but I know girls that work and, but you know, I know girls that work for 25 years in the strip club business, you know, and they ended up with, well, that one that had a realist, that massive real estate portfolio, but the smart ones would have, you know, 10, 15 homes all paid for generating, you know, they'd invested in the stock market wisely.
They had side businesses going, you know, so a lot of them actually did really, really well out of it. There's a lot, you know, You would be amazed how many female lawyers and doctors and professionals put themselves through school or paid to put themselves through school through working in a strip club. 25.
Okay. Have you ever been to a strip club? Nope. I mean, if you come to Vegas, do you have any desire to go to one? Not particularly. After these stories? I mean, it sounds really exciting. Does your generation talk about strip clubs at all? Not really.
First time I went to a strip club, I had no choice. I was put in a Navy fucking 12-pack van and I was literally carried inside of it. The night that I pulled the fucking knife on the guy, the first time I lost my trident, we started off at a strip club at like 10 a.m. in Tucson. It was fucking rough. Wait, the first time you lost your trident?
Yeah. What? You've known me a long time. You didn't know that? Downtown Tucson. I pulled a knife on the bouncer and then I ran away from the cop cars and helicopter. No, I don't recall. Oh, that sounds like a fun story. Was that where you went gold or? I don't know.
I was at team five. I was on my first platoon after having received my trident. Oh yeah. New guy. First trip. That's a good new guy move. First trip after receiving my Trident, all that shit went down, and my CO just slides a fucking pair of scissors across the desk because I had just gotten the patch put on my uniform. He goes, yeah, why don't you go ahead and cut that right off? Fuck.
Fuck. Yeah. Is flip-flops even a thing for your generation? Now that I'm thinking about it, I do have a really good friend that does like strip clubs. Does he live here? No. I was going to say, are there even strip clubs in Montana?
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Chapter 4: How do military backgrounds influence firearms training?
Absolutely not.
those are the cards you're dealt you can be an academic who plays chess instead of doing security at the coffee shop and sit on the couch yes with his fucking feet up the last time I was in there I caught him doing that yeah it's not an equal playing field yeah and I wish it was I have more respect though for the people who stick with it who aren't naturals than the naturals who can just kind of crush and dominate everybody else I think you know I was raised under this thing it's better to have tried and not succeeded than to have succeeded without trying you know
Yeah. I think there's a lot of people who don't try a lot of things. Yeah. Probably just because of the social optic of failure. Yeah. Which I mean, I think that's true probably of all of us to some degree. But if you, I mean, if people are feeling that, fuck that man, I say lean into that thing that's making you feel that way a little bit.
Yeah. You know, it's interesting. I've mentored a couple of young entrepreneurs and, and, and what does that even mean? Um, just like, can anybody be an entrepreneur? What if you just want to call yourself an entrepreneur for social media?
The way that I explain being an entrepreneur is there are two kids, right? And they both climb a tree. And their goal is they're going to fly. And one kid jumps out, flaps his arms, and he fucking crashes to the ground in a heap. And he says, fuck that, that's not going to work. And the other kid, he just keeps going until he flies. Just keeps climbing and climbing.
And climbing and climbing until he figures out how to fly. Yeah.
And the entrepreneur is the kid that keeps climbing and climbing until he figures out how to fly. You know, they're usually, they're usually not very good academically. You know, they usually, they don't fit well into a traditional academic role, but they, they just don't quit. You know, people say to me, well, how many things have you failed at? And I'm like, fucking tons of things.
Yeah. They always want to focus on the wave tops and they forget all the valleys that are in between that actually make you capable of appreciating the wave tops. Yeah. If you take a failure as a lesson, as a lesson in getting to the next level, that's what I think is the best way to do it. I think so too. You know?
How big do you guys want to make the company? Triple D, if you will. I mean, I think we should announce now some summer courses in the Montana area. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Yeah, we were just talking about that today. And that's one of the issues we deal with in Vegas, obviously. Is it traditionally warm there in the summer? Yes, it is. Did you fucking sweat sweats in Vegas? I don't understand how.
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