So much stuff in this episode. Big stuff. Uganda is now co-chairing the Green Climate Fund: 'You can't be the one that is slaughtering a cow and then you don't give your family a big part of that cow.' Then there's the green list, the red list and the blue zone; the promised tripling of adaptation finance and the adaptation plan for Uganda. There's the fossil fuel roadmap that wasn't; a phased approach to a phase-out that won't; rich countries' double standards; the indigenous takeover of the conference and the Ugandan government lobbying to retain the use of fossil fuels. Jackson Muhindo Rukara of OXFAM Uganda joins us with his personal reflections and big picture view of the negotiations and the politics. If you'd like some good summaries of various aspects of COP30, go here: From The Coversation: 'Petrostates-block-climate-deal-once-again-but-some-countries-are-taking-their-own-decisive-steps-to-phase-out-fossil-fuels' https://theconversation.com/cop30-petrostates-block-climate-deal-once-again-but-some-countries-are-taking-their-own-decisive-steps-to-phase-out-fossil-fuels-270580 From Carbon Brief: 'Cop30 key outcomes agreed at the UN climate talks in Belem' https://www.carbonbrief.org/cop30-key-outcomes-agreed-at-the-un-climate-talks-in-belem/ And also from Carbon Brief': 'Why COP30’s ‘tripling adaptation finance’ target is less ambitious than it seems' https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-cop30s-tripling-adaptation-finance-target-is-less-ambitious-than-it-seems/ And so, this episode brings to an end our special season focused on COP30. We hope you've found it as insightful and revealing as we have. It feels like we have a whole new understanding of the significance of the COP meetings, and how they actually work. Special thanks to all our guests who took time to speak with us. We'll see for our next episode - a COP30-free zone. Until then, thanks for listening, and drop us a line any time - [email protected] Josephine

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