Connor and Jack talk about the poem "And" by Rae Armantrout. Connor asks, "Why is this a poem?" Jack expounds upon Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, and both burrow deep into the strange roots and meanings of words. Read the poem below.  More on Rae Armantrout, here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/rae-armantrout Find us on facebook at: facebook.com/closetalking  Find us on Twitter at: twitter.com/closetalking  You can always send us an e-mail with thoughts on this or any of our previous podcasts, as well as suggestions for future shows, at [email protected]. And By: Rae Armantrout 1 Tense and tenuous grow from the same root as does tender in its several guises: the sour grass flower; the yellow moth. 2 I would not confuse the bogus with the spurious. The bogus is a sore thumb while the spurious pours forth as fish and circuses.

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