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520 in the Morning - Jeff Teague REACTS to John Wall retiring, BEST Kentucky PGs
20 Aug 2025
Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Chapter 2: What are the highlights of John Wall's career?
Last, certainly not least, Quentin Nelson talking about all the changes at QB that they've dealt with the last couple of years. I would say so. I think it's ironic that it wasn't. I, as a follow in zero, you know, that's as fire. Here's some years and years and getting to build that damage to leave with that. That's what we're asking here after the years.
That's very little advantage to me in terms of online. So, answer your question. All right, man. There's been a lot of takes about this situation. A lot of people are upset, especially Colts fans, that Anthony Richard was not named QB1. How do you feel about that? I pretty much knew that was going to happen. I mean, it was kind of the writing was on the wall.
Once he had the surgery on his shoulder and they brought Daniel Jones in, I'm like, people don't feel like Daniel Jones got a fair shake in New York. I do. I think he played a lot. I think he was a starter for most of his career there. And he didn't perform at a high level at all. Nope. But I kind of knew this was coming. It's Indianapolis. Yeah, sure, we told him. Careful out here, bro.
You can't have a black quarterback in Indianapolis, not to say it like that, unless he going to be performing at a crazy level. There can't be no kind of questions about it. He got to overperform. That's a fact, bro. Yeah. Yeah, because the very interesting part about this is he has only played 15 games, albeit injury or whatever. You want him on the field. He couldn't be there.
Whatever happened. But you have to at least give him a chance to be a quarterback. We have seen what Daniel Jones can do. And like Ryan Clark said, when you get him, you decide you get a quarterback next year. Even if they wanted to move on from Anthony Richardson, you can't even move on from him now because you haven't even given him a fair shake to even get anything back from the situation.
Now, I think, honestly, this could be a blessing in disguise for him because if Daniel Jones get out here and stick it up like he's known to do, now he get to go kill with no pressure. If they start off shaky, he come in and kill. Now he save the day, probably get paid again. Rich just got to stay healthy, though, bro. Yeah. He just got to stay healthy. I mean, they gave him the keys.
Like, bro just got injured. You know what I'm saying? I'm just nothing on this, bro. Like, I can see if you go get a quarterback you thought it was going to be better or you thought it was going to, like, I don't know. Daniel Jones shit is just weird. There's no way you've seen him the last couple years and you want him to be a QB1, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't make sense of that.
I'm not the biggest football guy to break everything down. But, bro, you have to give Anthony Richland a chance. If this year it didn't work out, OK, I get it. Move on. But he ain't played enough. He's still younger than most of the other QBs in the league at this age anyway. He didn't get a lot to play in college because, you know what I'm saying, the minutes was low, short time period.
Let him play, bro. That's the thing that I'm talking about. He didn't have enough experience. Yeah. Like, even in college. But I think they're going to Justin Fields him. Like, I think he's going to eventually Terrell Pryor him, all those kind of things. Like, he's going to get a chance to play quarterback, but he's going to be a backup or end up being a wideout or something else.
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Chapter 3: How is John Wall compared to other Kentucky point guards?
See what you got. You're supposed to give him a chance. Instead of watching Daniel Jones, bro. Come on, bro. At least we can see what our draft pick going to do. His potential through the roof. If he's sad, he's sad, but let's see. He need a year. He need a year. He's going to get the whole year, bro. Let's just see. See what he can do.
And, I mean, there's some other things in the organization that might need to change, you know. Also, as well, I'm not going to get too deep into that, but like you said, bro, the worst case scenario is if he comes out and he sticks it up, guess what? They get a high enough pitch to go get a little quarterback anyway. Yeah, because we know who Daniel Jones is, bro.
I watched him all last year, bro. You definitely know who he is. Nothing. What about if Daniel Jones come out on hoop, though? He just needed a new O-line, a new flavor, a new vibe. I think Richard Cook. Then he will not be in the Apple Scholar next year. He'll be a backup because, yeah, we've seen that. The Sandaro situation, find somewhere you find a stick, and then it worked out.
Now Danny Donaldson out here, start killing. Then it's quiet. You could. We can't defend it. It's going to be crazy. I know he's going to play well, too. That's just how shit works. I feel bad for the Coast fans, bro. Y'all be going through some shit, because this is ghetto. How you figure I'm going to be a QB1 every year for the last five years, bro? That's not a life I want to live, bro.
Andrew Luck got shit popping. Yeah, y'all ask about that, bro. He even came back out and said something. Yeah, he said, yeah, I kind of had to fuck up. He said, I feel bad. I don't. I was never an Andrew Luck fan. Never cared. He did put us through some shit, bro. He did, bro. He did. So imagine that.
You got Andrew Luck coming out of his, wherever he's been hiding at, talking about that this week. And then you get Dan Jones and QB Boy. Boy, that's some strong people. Anthony Richardson is okay, bro. Just keep your head. Keep talking. How you talking in these press conferences? Nah, he did a great job. Yeah, bro. I like your energy, my man. Just keep working. Stay ready.
He going to get a chance. Yeah, he's straight, bro. And when he gets a chance, I'll be coming out and kill, bro. Know what I wish they would've did, though?
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of John Wall's retirement?
This is just randomly. I wish they would've brought, like, Cam Newton around here. Facts. You know what I mean? Like, even though not Cam, like, just let Cam Newton work with him. And then you put an offensive scheme based around how Cam Newton played when he was with Carolina. And just let him soak up some of the game from him. Because Cam Newton obviously was an MVP.
But they got a similar body type. I mean, obviously Cam Newton was a better player. I mean, in college and all that stuff. But just to soak up some game from him. I wonder if he talked to Cam Newton or if he rocked with Cam Newton anyway. That's the kind of player I would have been talking to. Yeah, if he can turn into somewhat of Cam Newton, boy, that's a win.
Because Cam Newton was one of the worst. If he turn into anything. He ain't that close to Cam Newton. Oh, what's up? That's what I thought. When we was getting there, I'm like, damn, the coach about to be lit. And they're going to be mad. Like I said, bro, Daniel Jones come out, have a decent year. They mediocre enough to get to playoffs or have some success. They want cool.
And they let him move on. And somebody else get a hold of Anthony Richardson. And he turn into that at 24. They're going to be mad, bro. Coach won eight games this year. Yeah, they're the Colts, bro. They're going to always be playing for Tichy in the NFC South. The dude really ain't played football in a minute, though. 15 games. Oh, he has not played football at all. It's his third year.
Come on, bro. And you ain't really playing college. He probably got a total of 28 games under his belt. 29. In seven years. Crazy. 29 games in, like, five years is crazy. Yeah, bro. I'm top five, bro. That's crazy. I don't play that much, bro. I'm cold. Respect, though. But, like, he hasn't played a lot of football. Yeah, man. Get well soon to the coast, man. Y'all deserve better.
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Chapter 5: What are the key differences between Kevin Garnett and Dirk Nowitzki?
But them legendary crow by DJ. I love numbers next to each other. Yeah, that big bro in the ass. Yeah, I ain't lying. People say he's as far as it gets me. All right, let's look at it. Let's just go career stats. I don't like these numbers, though. Career stats. They both played for a god-awful amount of years. They did.
The only reason I think KG better than Dirk, because they're not that far away on offense, but KG is a way better defender. I'm not mad at that. That's 1,000%. Who championship was tougher? Dirk. Dirk. He ran through Murders or Dolo. Who's a better leader of their team? KG.
Chapter 6: Who was a better leader: Garnett or Nowitzki?
You sure? Dirk put his team on his back. His play did. But KG, he a leader of men, bro. KG had to sell Latrell Springwell. Huh? Yeah, they both had help, too. I had to deal with you beating the coach up. Hey, but what then? I was playing. I was still an 18, 19. But Latrell was still there. Latrell was at his good years. Yes, I would say I'm some of the best. So, KG had some shit. You had J. Kidd.
I had Sam Cassell. What are you saying? It's a little different. Some people say Sam Cassell is their toughest cover.
Chapter 7: How does Jeff Teague reflect on his high school basketball experiences?
That's fine. Pull up guard. He's a real two-point guard. Sam Cassell is a real two-point guard. Sam Cassell was cold. Latrell Sprewell, who was on Dirk's side on the wing with Dirk? Give me Trev. Michael Finley. Jason Terry. Nah, hell nah. Michael Finley won. Jason Terry. Oh, you're talking about championships. I don't know about that. Jason Terry was killing, bro. Yeah, he was.
Like, really killing. Give me Freaky Will, bro. Spree Will. Jason Terry was killing, bro.
Chapter 8: What were the significant moments in Jeff Teague's basketball career?
I don't know. Jason Terry never. I'm probably taking Spree Will, though. At that time, he was going crazy, bro. He was killing brah. Bronco not guard. Yeah. All right. Whose stats is better? Let's say career stats. Career stats got to be better than KG's, bro. No, for real, because KG played a lot of down years. I mean, Dirk did too, though. Yeah. After that first year, it was up.
No, I'm talking about like Dirk last year. Yeah, he wasn't doing anything. He was just on the team. We're averages, though, bro. I think Dirk got him in points at least. Probably points. I give him that. Yeah, he definitely got him in points. KG sacrificed him. That's why I said the offense ain't that different. Dirk's is going to be better. I'm with you, though.
I'm taking KG because of the defensive. KG's a way better defender. It's not even close, bro. Yeah. Oh, 1,000%. KG wanted the best to do it. That's the only way I agree with Mook, though. And if you take off those last years of KG's career, like the last three, it probably improved them stats. Yeah, them single-digit years, that ain't really nothing, bro. But KG deserves to be on this team, bro.
He has to be. I ain't mad at that at all. Are y'all taking Chris Paul or James Harden on that second team? Ooh. James. I'm going to put James at point guard on that second team. Yeah. I ain't mad at that. No disrespect to CP. I'm glad CP is on one of these teams, though. He deserves to be on the top team for sure. But I think James Hart, MVP. Yeah. And I ain't going to lie.
I was going to take Russell Westbrook over Chris Paul, too. I was going to say that was one of the people putting there that said no love for MVP Russ. Take him over Steve Nash? No, he got two MVPs. If I had to leave somebody off the list, I probably would have left Chris Paul just because of Russ. Or Russell Westbrook did, man. That shit's on real, bro.
I averaged a triple-double for four years straight. No disrespect to CP. I think CP a legend, but I'm going to take Russell Westbrook career over. Another conversation behind this. Some people feel like Shaq should have been first team instead of Jokic. No, I'm going to take Jokic. He got two NDPs. His accolades, all that is crazy. Crazy.
But they also say, you know, Shaq does have one MVP, but he also got some finals MVPs and he got, what, four of them birds. Yeah. He got four of them. But, boy, the things we've seen, Paul, the yoke is doing, bro. The yoke is good, bro. Yeah, I have no argument. I'm just saying. You can't do that. Go to Shaq career stats before he, likeā Because Shaq started playing around.
Shaq just wanted to go kick it with his dog. Yeah, I'm saying before he, likeā For real. When he stopped taking basketball serious. I'm going to say after Miami. I don't think he took basketball serious after that. Because Iā I got to pick Shaq over... Yeah, Shaq better than Joker, bro. Better? Fuck yeah, bro. All right, what was his... Before he went to Miami, let's see what he was at.
More dominant, but better. Jokic bring a lot to the game, bro. Yeah, bro. All right, go to Jokic, though. How he... He made his defenders... Bro, they used to have to get three, four people for Shaq. Facts. You don't have to do that for Joker. You should. No. Look at Joker. Look at Joker when he... He's putting 50s on his... 26, 27, 25, 26, 29. Bro.
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